micklner Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 http://beamishtransportonline.co.uk/2022/10/north-eastern-railway-k-class-a-new-project-for-the-2020s/?fbclid=IwAR0D2vvJTHk5q6ijAsjEY8Ibft-cR3jf3K0zkj0gnNPExtsa5PVADctNIVA 6 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Barry O Posted October 15, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 15, 2022 It would be better if they looked after some of the railway items they already have.. some of which are not in a good condition.. Baz 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trog Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 25 minutes ago, Barry O said: It would be better if they looked after some of the railway items they already have.. some of which are not in a good condition.. Baz The link says that a benefactor is paying for it to be built externally to the railway. So should make no difference to the running or maintenance of the railway until said benefactor buys a very large sheet of wrapping paper and says present for you. At which point it should help generate revenue which could help pay for other things. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted October 15, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 15, 2022 33 minutes ago, Barry O said: It would be better if they looked after some of the railway items they already have.. some of which are not in a good condition.. Baz Unfortunately, human nature being what it is, throughout the preservation sector we see wallets open much faster for exciting new-builds than for resurrecting rusty hulks. As Trog says, if a new-build increases patronage, there may be more cash to maintain and preserve precious artefacts. 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickham Green too Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 No point having a nice shiny new shunter if there's nothing sound - and presentable - for it to play with. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Dava Posted October 15, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 15, 2022 It will be great to see a NER K class or Y8. Alongside one of the H class Y7s it will look even smaller. Beamish needs an authentic NER loco which can provide demonstrations and a passenger service. It could authentically act as York NRM or Shildon Shed Pilot. Thanks to the benefactor and North Bay Railway Engineering. Dava 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickham Green too Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 1 hour ago, Dava said: ... Beamish needs an authentic NER loco which can provide demonstrations and a passenger service. It could authentically act as York NRM or Shildon Shed Pilot. ... With that marine firebox it'll be useless for anything more than pottering about a shed ......................... but hasn't Beamish got an authentic C class NER loco anyway ??!? - and there's an O class under construction not a million miles away. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Dava Posted October 15, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 15, 2022 1 hour ago, Wickham Green too said: With that marine firebox it'll be useless for anything more than pottering about a shed ......................... but hasn't Beamish got an authentic C class NER loco anyway ??!? - and there's an O class under construction not a million miles away. Nothing like looking on the bright side! A marine firebox is the original design. They work fine on Bagnall design narrow gauge locomotives such as the Groudle Glen Railway, so long as the fire is managed well. Personally I agree a conventional box would be better but I’m not paying to build it! The C class, LNER J21 65033 is undergoing a HLF funded very major rebuild in Loughborough and is likely to be based on the Stainmore Railway when complete, though will hopefully visit other NER lines. http://www.lclt.org.uk/index.html The O class or LNER G5 replica is some years from completion and also likely to run mainly on longer lines. https://www.g5locomotiveltd.co.uk/ Dava Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickham Green too Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 1 hour ago, Dava said: ... A marine firebox ... work fine on Bagnall design narrow gauge locomotives .... That's not exactly how the Welshpool and Llanfair look upon "Monarch", unfortunately. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halvarras Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 5 hours ago, Dava said: It will be great to see a NER K class or Y8. Alongside one of the H class Y7s it will look even smaller. Beamish needs an authentic NER loco which can provide demonstrations and a passenger service. It could authentically act as York NRM or Shildon Shed Pilot. Thanks to the benefactor and North Bay Railway Engineering. Dava Interesting - so now I can stop being concerned about my newly restored Tri-ang Nellie's lack of visible cylinders - they would be wherever they were positioned on this!! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Dava Posted October 15, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 15, 2022 26 minutes ago, Wickham Green too said: That's not exactly how the Welshpool and Llanfair look upon "Monarch", unfortunately. That design was replicated in 7 locos for sugar estate railways. It was probably not so suitable for the sharper gradients of the WLLR. However Monarch had the highest mileage of the WLLR steam locos in (I recall) 1976, before the extension to Welshpool was completed. Maybe little else was available that year. The overall design was not a great success. https://www.irsociety.co.uk/Archives/16/Bagnall_articulated_locos.htm The Groudle Glen has built 4 locos with bullhead marine boilers and they work well on the steeply graded line. Dava Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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