TheSignalEngineer

Lowering lamp brackets started in 1963 IIRC

@scottystitch that's almost what I was doodling this morning. The only thing I had different was if you provide the slip you could save the point end to the bottom right of it and the end of the crossover in bay 5 as long as you don't want to have an arrival in bay 5 simultaneously with a departure from bay 6.

Will have a look when I finish grandad duty.

In current standards distant signal working automatically will be numbered xxR where xx is the number of the signal it applies to. A distant signal worked by its own lever or switch will have a unique number. A banner signal will be numbered xxBR.

From the 1960s rationalisation and resignalling schemes tended to try to eliminate slips where possible. Replacement of loco hauled trains by DMUs cut down shunting requirements at many locations. On the revised plan you can't depart from No.5 Bay without coming out via the down to up crossover by the tunnel mouth whish blocks every other move at that end of the station. Getting anything into No.7 Bay is difficult unless it arrives in the Up direction in Platform 2 or 4. A good way of testing a layout is to draw it out at large scale, cut out rectangles of card to represent the rolling stock at the same scale and move it around in the way you are intending to timetable trains and to see if it works. If you tie yourself in a knot you need more flexibility.

Doing it again now. Jumping aroind to random dates in blogs when viewing new content.

I had the same issue today, with view new content suddenly jumping back from three hours ago to December 2017. Refreshing the screen rectified the problem.

An example of 1962 with a lot of space would be Perth. This is the traffic notice, If you view the PDF at 100% and scroll to the bottom you will find the signalling plan. https://www.s-r-s.org.uk/pullfree.asp?FilePath=ArchiveSignals\Downloads\brscot&FileName=1962-perth.pdf

This was the last mortal remains of the one on the Down Main at Snow Hill. Outside the old part of the tunnel but still in the dark under the station concourse. In the new layout the signals were put at Moor Street because of the position of the new crossovers in the tunnel. The signal would have to be located in the narrowest part of the original tunnel, only about a train length from Moor Street platform and poor sighting. Better to hold the train in the platform than the tunnel and the following train would still be held at the same place.

Not an operationally friendly layout, for instance to cross a loco from platform 4 to platform 3 blocks all other moves in the throat. You need to consider changing some of the diamonds to slips. Consider where you want to make parallel moves and how shunts will be made for example how do you get a loco onto a train which has terminated in a bay.

Thanks, will look later when on a big screen. First impression is signal in tunnel but that could depend on what the trailing crossover is used for.

The signal on the Up Stour at New Street has a trailing crossover immediately beyond it inside the tunnel.

The moves ahead of the signal would determine whether or not the signal could be in the space outside the tunnel. A sketch of the layout is needed, together with line speed for through non-stop trains and the planned traffic pattern, to give a definitive answer.

Tyseley were good at that. They ran a 122/101/105 combination in three different liveries. You could also get sets with maps of three different areas inside.

The Up Stour at New Street has a four aspect with subsidiary aspect and a theatre indicator. Not sure what's there now but it used to be a smaller head than standard due to clearance problems.

@melmerby Or a 28xx https://www.warwickshirerailways.com/gwr/gwrbsh1245.htm Toad and barrier wagon at each end.

It would be a conventional multi aspect head mounted at ground level with the red at the top. A theatre indicator would also be ground mounted 10 yards beyond the signal. Is it a terminus or through station?

I don't know what the SR did but the LMR used hardwood planks for their signal gantries in the 1960s. I remember putting up some with chequered plates and open grids later, but the latter not on OLE lines in my days.

There is a free bus between Victoria and Piccadilly but it is usually quicker to walk due to traffic. On some trams you would need to get off at Piccadilly Gardens and walk from there. Trains from the north east to the airport also run from Victoria to Oxford Road and Piccadilly via the Ordsall Chord twice per hour.

At the time of the deal being touted by the previous PM my seven-year-old grandson had difficulty in seeing why it was sensible to push through a deal which was worse than the one you already had in place to satisfy internal party arguments. Obviously not cut out for a career in politics.

When I used to commute from Stockport before retiring 15 years ago my regular parking spot was £3 all day and free from 6pm to midnight. Since they built the multi storey it has gone up to £17.50 for over 4 hours.

It would take you until next years show to get the Risk Assessment approved.

My daughter has a role in a multinational company recommending on where products should be made for the best return on investment. This is not in toy trains or the like but in products which many people around the world rely on for their daily survival due to medical conditions. The company has worldwide in-house manufacturing facilities and has spent £40million just to ensure continuity of supply to its customers for all potential outcomes of the current political situation. To put it into context that amount of cash would probably buy the whole of a year's production of Hornby trains and leave you with some change.

Knowle & Dorridge, Handsworth & Smethwick, Soho & Winson Green.

Been there, not in model railways, but gave up because of the effort involved and the attitude of people who ask the impossible then want a discount when you actually produce it. Back on topic, I hope that Keith is successful in bringing some unusual prototypes to market. I doubt that some of these would ever see enough commercial return to satisfy the backers of the big boys. If it wasn't for a project like this those wanting one can always resort to some modelling.