Evening all from Estuary-Land. My driving licence renewal landed on the mat this morning. I didn't realise that you could still retain the minibus and 7:5 tonne part of the licence provided you got a form signed by your doctor or optician. Question is is it worth it? Mick, sorry to hear of that young mans suicide, when that black dog bites he bites very hard. I know of two suicides among the families of friends one of whome I was acquainted with, I never thought he would do such a thing. We have foxes locally despite being very suburban but the marshlands are less than a couple of miles away and there is plenty of cover for them, they were certainly kicking up a racket last night.