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I don't know about the copyright issue, BUT, would that not apply to all the adverts too? I know copyright means you cannot reproduce to sell or make money from it but I don't know about for information only. A lot of things from various magazines have appeared in these pages and other sites just for show. Garry

Here are my Dublo A4 repaints, all 34 BR A4's. 60001 is bottom right and 60034 top left. Garry

This Wrenn chassis is also used for their A4, using different valve gear pinned into plastic clips. The rear end has an extension plate screwed on for use on the City locos.

Its not too difficult to fit a Duchess chassis to a City loco, here is one of mine, the top one. Garry

Here is my 42' parcels van awaiting touch ups to the steps and possibly Tri-ang bogies, I am undecided on that at the moment. This shows the poor roof side that did have a lot of flash to remove. A BEC cattle van, looks like aluminium wheels that were the rage at one time, They were not successful (especially on locos) so i will swap these for brass/nickel ones. An unopened Peco wagon kit which came as part of the collection I bought recently, this was one of the unmentioned spares. What appears to be GEM signals. Height wise they look a little tall but the arms look correct compared to Dublo ones. Garry

Here is my 14xx running, its Romfords not keen on Tri-ang track but copes quite well. Here is the 14xx running, the Romfords are not too keen on Tri-ang track but cope. Garry

Here is the 14xx running, the Romfords are not too keen on Tri-ang track but cope. Garry

Hi Nigel, I had hoped by fitting the motor on the front axle it would have given some weight over the drivers but the motors are very light compared to the old days so did not help much (if at all). Plus, I did not make a fixed/ridged chassis as I wanted it to go around Tri-ang curves so it has a sprung pony truck. Regarding livery there were two in the sale this one painted, and, an unpainted one and I was hoping to have one of each black and green. The other one was quite badly dented and soldered so I have filed off all beading etc and going to make some thin brass overlays for the tank and bunker. At the moment doing this as the black one as you say may be the best option. As I have no knowledge of most motors and gearboxes for TT I designed the chassis for front wheel drive as the originals had been anyway but without using the Terrier motor. As it happens for the motor I used, Hanazono, I had to file some of the chassis to allow the motor to fit inside the boiler anyway. Garry

Does anyone know if any information and or photos exist of George Mellor's TT layout which I think was called Rhos-on-Wye which was where his company was based. The only photo I have seen is on a corner showing a 2P on shed a long time ago, 60's, in some book I used to have. The same photo was also in a booklet by Edward Beal on TT kits. Garry

The 14xx is now a runner and weather permitting a video will be made tomorrow and to test her strength. I do need to see what I can do with that paint job. I tried to touch up what I bought without stripping it and as I have glued some lead inside it might be difficult now. The motor as can be seen is fitted to the front axle so I may make some "skirts" for under the boiler. Garry

Here is one of my Trix Standard V's on parcels duty. At the end of the clip not how fast the coaches are prpelled backwards including 4 and 6 wheelers. Garry

I did not know it had been sold with the darker blue and all yellow ends, but it was the best one of the 3 made. The BTC (?) film of the Channel Tunnel used Trix on their layout but with Dublo coaches amongst a lot of other items. Garry

I saw this a few times as a youngster and I have a feeling in a couple of various forms as it grew, I think the Modeller used "Just like Topsy". As a youngster I was fascinated about the way I thought a loco should appear after going "underground" but obviously points or curves were inside doing the opposite to my thoughts. Are there any photos etc on line about this model railway? Garry

Hi Frank, unfortunately I cannot do that because as soon as the wheels are moved out on the axles the wheels are too tight to go around Tri-ang curves smoothly having the flanges rubbing the rails. I know because I did try one loco, I know it is about .1mm or so but it makes a lot of difference. This way I can still have my loose lay Tri-ang but also run through Peco.

I could have scratch built a body like the N7 but wanted to keep it Tri-ang looking as much as possible as I did with the 9F. To be correct the body should still be longer which would mean the rear bogie moving back but then fouling the rear casting which is left to secure the body as normal to the chassis. At times I will do something completely different and other times try to keep as much originality as possible. Garry

It was sold recently. Garry

The kit I am getting is already assembled so no idea if set for one or two motors. If glued it maybe able to be removed, if soldered I don't know although I could possibly cut it out and make a new plate, time will tell. I would like to use two motors in it though. The Tri-ang electrics are nice models and unfortunately the only time I got to Sheffield Victoria it was being demolished. Garry

Having wanted the old BEC Brush type 4 for a long time and thinking one would never appear I set about modifying the Tri-ang Brush type 2. First the cab ends were altered from 3 window to 2 and a headcode panel cut in, then the body had all detail filed off and was cut in half and two thin pieces of brass were glued to give a flat side and extend the body about 23mm. The roof had one end cut off and a second roof cut to length to make up the body length. I know not quite correct but a reasonable representation and it kept the bogie mount positions. It still needs handrails (hopefully will partly disguise the new side joints) and roof painting. Garry ps As luck would have it, I have today been offered the old BEC kit which will be a nice addition and a more realistic one I guess.

Here is a Tri-ang TT loco not seen before, an ex LMS 0-4-4 2P tank. This is a Jinty chassis with the rear end cut away for the bogie which is an etched one although a Britannia one would have worked. One set of flanged wheels were fitted to the centre axle and the wheels tapped for screws. Unfortunately the existing holes meant 8BA screws had to be fitted. The body is a standard Jinty one with the angled bunker part cut off and a complete bunker from another Jinty glued on to extend it. It might not be to scale but looks different and again is mainly Tri-ang. Garry ps another BEC kit was the 4F.

Very nice, I remember a lot of those RM's first time around and some of the contents brought back memories. Your layouts look good too, Finsbury Park in TT with type B track? Garry

Peco TT points This is my method for modifying the Peco points to allow Tri-ang wheels to go through. I have read it can be done but not actually seen a proper description so had a go myself as I did not want to start modifying the loco wheels. The first thing is to remove all check rails using a small saw at a low angle. Clean up the plastic base so the sleepers are "level" and no remains of the moulded rail. Two webs between the sleepers are removed and in this case two small strips of Nickel silver are soldered to the rail. A new check rail is made from spare rail and soldered to the two strips. I may have these etched as one piece later which will make fitting a lot easier. So far only one check rail has been done yet the locos etc have run through the crossing and slip without issues with no check rails fitted. The diamond crossing had the internal check rails removed using pliers and grinding with the Dremel. The straight running rails had a small piece sawn off the ends using the same saw. A new one piece Diamond was made slightly narrower than Tri-ang back to back measurement and glued in place. The Double slip had its 4 straight rail ends sawn down a little as per the diamond and that is all there is to it. Care was needed here due to the closeness of the other rails. I am now just waiting for a curved point to try the same.

There was a couple of that issue of Modellers on Ebay recently. Longacre from Macclsefield was another in RM in the 60's. There is a very nice TT layout from I think the Keithly or Bradford group called Aireworth that was in the modeller a few years ago. Garry

Here is some nostalgic TT, my loose lay layout at Wressle last year and Goole this year. A lot of it is Tri-ang stock with a few kits of the time and a couple of new ones, Deltic and Type 3. Also my Tri-ang suburbans made into an EMU with a Tri-ang DMU motor bogie. Garry

I was trying to use as many parts as I could without any modification to allow others an easy option to have a 9F. It was never classed as a scale model but just possibly as Tri-ang might have made in those days using existing parts where possible. A few people who bought the chassis kits did say they were happy with how it has turned out without a lot of cutting etc. I also had to ensure the centre wheels were in a reasonable position for the motor to still fit the body. Garry

TT is still big in certain circles especially since the 3mm society formed but I am not a member and prefer to be a "loner" so I do not have access to their sales etc but build what I can from scratch or draw up plans to get items etched. This has not hindered me in many ways. With reference to the title of this thread and to me TT is still big (I only resurrected my TT last September after about 35 years) here are a couple of my own locos one of which is practically Tri-ang. This is a 9F, not strictly to scale as I wanted to use as much Tri-ang as I could so I had new frames etched to fit the Britannia body with new axle positions but fitted Jinty wheels, XT60 motor and the Britannia body. I would have used a Britannia tender but did not have a body at the time so built a brass high sided one. The second loco is an N7 body I drew up and had etched to fit a Tri-ang chassis as in most cases from the old days. I have more planned but have done the 2P and 14xx chassis's Garry