Popular Post cornish trains jez Posted May 4, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted May 4, 2015 (edited) Good evening all, I've always been fond of AC electrics and have always wanted to build a layout based on the WCML. I really fancied doing a through station but I also fancied something a little different that hadn't been modelled quite so often. Having stumbled across some photos on Flickr of Euston station, I was hooked. So, for the track plan, my first port of call was Google Earth which gave me the basis. Further reading indicated to me that the track layout had changed during 2004 - 2005 so further photos were sourced and studied, both on the web and on books. Finally a track layout that represented the 1980's was drawn up, which I feel is as accurate as possible. Rolling stock will mainly be classes 85-87 hauling a mixture of MK1, MK2 and MK3 rolling stock in blue/grey and Intercity liveries. An NSE liveried rake will be made up for the Northampton Cobbler services. Class 90's will also make apppearances as they started to come into service in 1989. DVT's will also be modelled. On the EMU side of things, I hope to scratch build some class 317's and also 321's, tha latter will made up of 3D prints from shapeways. Third rail class 313's will also be modelled. There will also be mail/parcels trains leaving the station and a variety of loco movements in and out of the station with ECS workings. Back to the trackplan, this was eventually drawn up using templot and then printed out onto A3 sheets of paper. The scenic part of the layout will measure around 1.9 meters, which spans from Hampstead Road overbridge to the start of the covered area of the station, which will also eventually be modelled. All the catenary will be scratch built to as near accurate as possible, using guitar string for the wires as per Cav's (RBE on RMweb) superb Outen Road layout. Here is the Templot plan roughly laid out on the floor showing the station area that is visible, leading up to the covered area. The layout will be a 2mm finescale layout, all track and turnouts will be hand built. More updates to follow. Best regards, Jeremy Edited September 15, 2015 by cornish trains jez 27 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bri.s Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 Wow,Holy that'll be some layout ,I'll look forward to your progress Brian 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 Did you REALLY SAY 2MM FINE SCALE? good grief man, that's some challenge. Good luck with it. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SparxD428 Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 This will be absolutely awesome. I have a soft spot for 80's AC Electrics so will be really keen to watch this ambitious project. Good luck Jez, Stu. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Ray H Posted May 4, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 4, 2015 Did you REALLY SAY 2MM FINE SCALE? good grief man, that's some challenge. Good luck with it. That's more than a challenge it is bordering on masochism. With no disrespect to the OP I am struggling to relate the track plan to what I recall the layout was in the 80s. I'm sure that there were 15 platforms then a stabling siding (or was it two) then platforms 16, 17 and 18 although I don't recall using 17 or 18. I seem to recall that there was a short stub trailing siding at the end of what is now platform 18. Other than between platforms 15 & 16 there were only two tracks between each pair of platform faces. Platforms 9 & 10 faced each other (as now) and were shorter than all the others. I think that they shared a common turnout at their north end so trains couldn't arrive and depart simultaneously. I've also got a vague suspicion that the engine release crossover was still present between platforms 1 & 2. I'm sure that the right hand most arch under the bridge (looking south) had one (and possibly two) of the backing out roads under it. Apologies if my ageing memory has failed me even more than usual. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
87023Velocity Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 Hi Jeremy, Cool! Looking forward to progress reports on this. Like the period you have selected, makes me think about operating Dallam as late eighties aswell as the 2001 era, just need alot of stock! Cheers Simon 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cornish trains jez Posted May 4, 2015 Author Share Posted May 4, 2015 Hi, Thanks for the comments, here is a photo which inspired me to model Euston. It gives a good view of the station throat. https://www.flickr.com/photos/steve75c/4655992953/in/photolist-86rbuz-dAvXcv-92qD1q-owtsW3-bpEHVF-fCYq2z-pX8ngo-fukJtv-jYyqbB-cD3e6Q-62fiUJ-62kbZF-614xeJ-ayJv7L-a7imev-aBT1xU-oaBkM3-rYmgcW-fAUg3E-8xyHkm-9re58V-axVKnB-bWBwAr-bWBwGR-bWBwsT-cdYRho-cdYRVU-cdYSeQ-hs92Yf-k46T5t-hvrELR-hvsxWW-fkp54n-avr3Hc-cHNXEd-9rh1wQ-9rh2Co-cRKa7j-jeWWj6-aBQkX4-eAjEFq-bCx3mK-rckWuW-df4ATn-kC549c-9ZxCad-akrZaT-mgN1N6-odFVT4-df4zL4 Best regards, Jeremy 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
'CHARD Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 Love the Cricklewood 25 sitting under the awning. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodenhead Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 Electrics and 2mm consider this thread followed. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Ray H Posted May 4, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 4, 2015 I found this which might be of use (if the link has worked properly). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 That's more than a challenge it is bordering on masochism.With no disrespect to the OP I am struggling to relate the track plan to what I recall the layout was in the 80s.I'm sure that there were 15 platforms then a stabling siding (or was it two) then platforms 16, 17 and 18 although I don't recall using 17 or 18. I seem to recall that there was a short stub trailing siding at the end of what is now platform 18.Other than between platforms 15 & 16 there were only two tracks between each pair of platform faces.Platforms 9 & 10 faced each other (as now) and were shorter than all the others. I think that they shared a common turnout at their north end so trains couldn't arrive and depart simultaneously.I've also got a vague suspicion that the engine release crossover was still present between platforms 1 & 2.I'm sure that the right hand most arch under the bridge (looking south) had one (and possibly two) of the backing out roads under it.Apologies if my ageing memory has failed me even more than usual. ...and don't forget the connection to the Royal Mail / Red Star parcels platforms, heavily overgrown today. In 2FS, I just hope the eyesight's up to it! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
branchie Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 Wow, fantastic! This ones going to be amazing ... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgeT Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 Awesome project, following with interest and good luck... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cornish trains jez Posted May 4, 2015 Author Share Posted May 4, 2015 That's more than a challenge it is bordering on masochism.With no disrespect to the OP I am struggling to relate the track plan to what I recall the layout was in the 80s.I'm sure that there were 15 platforms then a stabling siding (or was it two) then platforms 16, 17 and 18 although I don't recall using 17 or 18. I seem to recall that there was a short stub trailing siding at the end of what is now platform 18.Other than between platforms 15 & 16 there were only two tracks between each pair of platform faces.Platforms 9 & 10 faced each other (as now) and were shorter than all the others. I think that they shared a common turnout at their north end so trains couldn't arrive and depart simultaneously.I've also got a vague suspicion that the engine release crossover was still present between platforms 1 & 2.I'm sure that the right hand most arch under the bridge (looking south) had one (and possibly two) of the backing out roads under it.Apologies if my ageing memory has failed me even more than usual. I'll post more on the trackplan soon with some idea of where the platforms will be. There is one track missing as I still need to work out how to do a three way turnout on templot (any ideas welcome on that!). Thank you for your comments. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cornish trains jez Posted May 4, 2015 Author Share Posted May 4, 2015 In 2FS, I just hope the eyesight's up to it! It's certainly going to strain the eyesight! I'll be using my trusty magnifier quite a bit on this one! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin Brady Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 This is going to be a great project to follow, always been a fan of Euston myself and look forward to watching this develop, shall you be modelling the whole platfomr lengths, even though most of it is hidden, or will or just be the trains nosing out. Benjamin Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cornish trains jez Posted May 4, 2015 Author Share Posted May 4, 2015 This is going to be a great project to follow, always been a fan of Euston myself and look forward to watching this develop, shall you be modelling the whole platfomr lengths, even though most of it is hidden, or will or just be the trains nosing out. Benjamin Hi, Initially it will just be the trains nosing out, then I will model the rest of the station ( I must be mad!!!) Best regards, Jeremy 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin Brady Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 Is mad not the norm in this hobby, where is the fun in being sane. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Ray H Posted May 5, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 5, 2015 I'll post more on the trackplan soon with some idea of where the platforms will be. There is one track missing as I still need to work out how to do a three way turnout on templot (any ideas welcome on that!). Thank you for your comments. Martin Wynne will probably pop up in a minute and explain it in detail but I generally cheat and just lay one point over another and slide it along until all the clearances look right. I think the trick then is to remove the unwanted timbers and adjust individual rail lengths as required. I did find another image on that web page that I think looks a bit more like the layout that I recall. I know that platform 1 was frequently heaving with Brute trolleys but it was never out of use so I can only surmise that Horsetan's the reference to the Royal Mail platforms relates to the old down side shed that was still very much in use for carriage servicing in the 80s. The Up side (carriage) shed was also still there and used for unit storage during the midday if I remember correctly. Less use was made of the sidings at Camden then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bescotbeast Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 I'm really looking forward to watching this project move forward, AC Electrics you just can't go wrong with them (this was a sponsored message by WombatofLudham) Simon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonny777 Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 Hi, Thanks for the comments, here is a photo which inspired me to model Euston. It gives a good view of the station throat. https://www.flickr.com/photos/steve75c/4655992953/in/photolist-86rbuz-dAvXcv-92qD1q-owtsW3-bpEHVF-fCYq2z-pX8ngo-fukJtv-jYyqbB-cD3e6Q-62fiUJ-62kbZF-614xeJ-ayJv7L-a7imev-aBT1xU-oaBkM3-rYmgcW-fAUg3E-8xyHkm-9re58V-axVKnB-bWBwAr-bWBwGR-bWBwsT-cdYRho-cdYRVU-cdYSeQ-hs92Yf-k46T5t-hvrELR-hvsxWW-fkp54n-avr3Hc-cHNXEd-9rh1wQ-9rh2Co-cRKa7j-jeWWj6-aBQkX4-eAjEFq-bCx3mK-rckWuW-df4ATn-kC549c-9ZxCad-akrZaT-mgN1N6-odFVT4-df4zL4 Best regards, Jeremy I took this photo 23 years ago, but unfortunately the track to the westernmost platform face had already been removed, so there is no real clue to the track layout and any further short sidings beyond that. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cornish trains jez Posted May 5, 2015 Author Share Posted May 5, 2015 I took this photo 23 years ago, but unfortunately the track to the westernmost platform face had already been removed, so there is no real clue to the track layout and any further short sidings beyond that. 101954 86239 EUS 5:9:92.jpg That's a really good photo and an angle that I haven't yet come across. Plenty of detail there and certainly very helpful. Thanks for posting! I take it these two sidings were for stabling locos for the mail trains or were they actively used for loading? Best regards, Jeremy 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sub39h Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 I commute from the Midlands to London 4 days a week so spend a lot of time in, around or on my way to Euston so very keen to see how your project develops! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cornish trains jez Posted May 5, 2015 Author Share Posted May 5, 2015 Here is a photo that I took of the computer screen once i had finished the plan. It shows how the track was laid out over the present day google earth image but with the back dated track layout. It was a complete nightmare as I ended up printing out a whole load of photos from the internet just so I had almost every angle to hand when working out where the turnouts went. Today there are no slips but back then there were 1 single slip and three doubles from what I can gather from the photos. Still could have been worse.....I have no idea what the track layout was like back in steam days before the station was redeveloped, probably even more complicated! I'm quite tempted to have one or two nostalgic liveried locos in the early blue with the small yellow warning panel, rake of maroon coaches in tow! Apologies for the poor photo quality, it was taken using my phone Best regards, Jeremy 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Martin Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 I'll post more on the trackplan soon with some idea of where the platforms will be. There is one track missing as I still need to work out how to do a three way turnout on templot (any ideas welcome on that!). Thank you for your comments. Ah! I tried comparing your Templot prints with the Quail Maps book (not the current edition: the 1990-ish one). It's Platform 8 that's missing, isn't it? Jim Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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