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I'd be surprised if they were booked to travel on a freight - more likely booked to walk (that far!? - but only 40 minutes walking time) or catch a 'bus from Finsbury Park to Dalston (the 'hitch a lift' implied to me that it wasn't the way they were booked to travel).

 

 

That makes good sense Mike. Find a way to avoid a 40 minute walk, especially if the weather is cr*p.

 

 

My knowledge of north London is pretty poor so I've just Googled this.  A 2.5 mile walk, Google reckons 50 mins from the Top Shed area to Dalston. An engineman would be carrying a bag with his 'traps' and wearing heavyish boots. If you rode your bike you would somehow have to carry it on engine, probably on the tender. No point in leaving it at Dalston because the turn finished at Kings Cross (or did it?).  

 

As Johnny Nash sang, "There are more questions than answers. And the more I find out the less I know".  :scratchhead:

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My knowledge of north London is pretty poor so I've just Googled this.  A 2.5 mile walk, Google reckons 50 mins from the Top Shed area to Dalston. An engineman would be carrying a bag with his 'traps' and wearing heavyish boots. If you rode your bike you would somehow have to carry it on engine, probably on the tender. No point in leaving it at Dalston because the turn finished at Kings Cross (or did it?).  

 

As Johnny Nash sang, "There are more questions than answers. And the more I find out the less I know".  :scratchhead:

 

Google maps quote 2 miles on foot from Finsbury Park to Dalston (the present station) so at the standard Walking Time Allowance of 20 minutes to the mile that comes to 40 minutes allowed to walk it - so far from unusual really (and we were still using 20 minutes to the mile in the 1970s/'80s where there wasn't an agreed Walking Time).   However when I took over SR freight diagramming in 1993 I found some cases where men at a certain depot which had best remain nameless were allowed 25 minutes for a few hundred yards although it had been done as a way of fiddling make-up time in the 8 week rosters - the depot got most upset when I told my folk to do the job properly (mainly because it meant more work for them when putting links together).

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Ooooh - you mean that blood and custard BSK might appear on appear on another train before it could possibly have got back from Newcastle or wherever?  Or maybe even be seen twice going in the same direction?  Tsk, tsk ...... :sungum: 

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'Someone' does rather like the less glamorous locomotives, to be sure.  The unsung heroes.....and I have an 0-6-2T fixation!  I always find that wheel arrangement to be a pleasing loco, although someone will now no doubt post an ugly one, but I just like them.  So yes please Gilbert, the pilots, the scruffy freight locos, the things that got lost on the M&GN, the odd ducks.  NO, no not OUR duck..... :jester:

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Ooooh - you mean that blood and custard BSK might appear on appear on another train before it could possibly have got back from Newcastle or wherever?  Or maybe even be seen twice going in the same direction?  Tsk, tsk ...... :sungum:

Alright Guv, it's a fair cop. You got me bang to rights. However, I cannot remember ever consciously looking at a carriage number, let alone writing it down, so for me at least they have more chance of passing by unremarked. I have to admit though that I am beginning to find it a bit irksome to be constantly using the same few vehicles, until that is I think of the cost of having at least two per train.

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And now, an appeal. No, not for your money, though if you want to send some that's OK :jester: , but for some suggestions about your preferences as to where I should take photos from. South end? North end? Helicopter shots?  Whatever takes your fancy. I'm getting a bit jaded frankly, as I feel I've exhausted most of the possibilities.

I'm probably not much help but... anything with an A3, the station forecourt, 'Wolf of Badenoch' (what a name for an engine!) . I also enjoy the black and white images.

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No - they were supposed to walk or ride their push bike (some had motorcycles of course and some could afford cars (depending on the availability of overtime and Sunday turns).  Don't forget that many, especially outside the London area, lived near to their place of work although some, especially the likes of Relief Signalmen, had a need for transport and tended to be among the first to go in for motorised transport.  And if it saved a bike ride or walk and there happened to be a train going your way ...

 

And equally in many jobs we were required to live within a certain distance or journey time of our place of work - that even applied to me when I went into my final 'big railway' post in 1994 but I did have an 'On Call' commitment so that made a difference of course.

In the late 1970s it was still common for staff (not just footplate staff) to travel between Glasgow Queen Street and Eastfield Depot in the rear cab of a light loco.

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A reasonably good view of road 1 here, plus the protective fascia, which prevents anything plunging to the floor, but makes railing up a nightmare.

 

Get yourself one of these - it even makes railing up a Bachmann Peak a 5 second job !!

 

http://www.hattons.co.uk/18155/Peco_Products_SL_37_OO_HO_Re_railer/StockDetail.aspx

 

Nice photos, and a superb article in the Hornby mag this month.

 

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Get yourself one of these - it even makes railing up a Bachmann Peak a 5 second job !!

 

http://www.hattons.co.uk/18155/Peco_Products_SL_37_OO_HO_Re_railer/StockDetail.aspx

 

Nice photos, and a superb article in the Hornby mag this month.

 

Brit

 I have the Hornby version, but for some reason I don't get on very well with that even, Is the Peco one better, can anyone say?

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 I have the Hornby version, but for some reason I don't get on very well with that even, Is the Peco one better, can anyone say?

 

I can't compare the two, never having used the Hornby one, but I do use the Peco one for railing On30 stock (16.5mm track). it makes railing the cars a doddle and most locos are OK on it, although a few get upset when the loco is on the track and the tender is still at an angle. A friend of mine claims that the US narrow gauge stock doesn't have any wheels - after trying to rail a few passenger cars without a railer I was inclined to agree with him.

 

HTH

 

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 I have the Hornby version, but for some reason I don't get on very well with that even, Is the Peco one better, can anyone say?

 

 

Hornby one has a small 'lip' beneath the 'business end' (where vehicles run off) which needs to fit down between the sleepers in order for the device to be low enough to direct the flanges between the rails, so I find it doesn't work very well on ballasted track.  If the Peco one doesn't have this it might be easier to use (or I could just cut the lip off!).  Also only really works on a piece of straight track as long as the device itself, which can be difficult to find, but I suppose that would also apply to the Peco one.  How do I know?  The only way I can get Class 40s, and Bachmann Pacifics, on the rails!

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That perfectly illustrates a point I made in a post on "Wright Writes" in a roundy-roundy v FY-FY debate a couple of days ago - having put that together that little lot, I'd want to sit and watch it circulate a few times, not run it through PN once and take it apart again when it gets back to the FY.  Do you succumb to that ever?  Or will the next one round definitely have to be 74 Up?

 

Just curious ...

 

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That perfectly illustrates a point I made in a post on "Wright Writes" in a roundy-roundy v FY-FY debate a couple of days ago - having put that together that little lot, I'd want to sit and watch it circulate a few times, not run it through PN once and take it apart again when it gets back to the FY.  Do you succumb to that ever?  Or will the next one round definitely have to be 74 Up?

 

Just curious ...

 

Chris

Actually, I surprise myself by being very disciplined and almost never let things go round and round. When I do, it is usually a coal train that is allowed to creep slowly round a few times. It is the same with the speed limit too. I thought I might be tempted to run expresses at speed, but I'm not. I tend to rush through life, but it doesn't apply to the railway, which takes as long as it takes. There is an element of challenge involved too. I can now achieve the correct formation for more trains than before, so I want to keep extending it. I admit though that if I can't be bothered, as happens some days, I'll just run the generic Newcastle or West Riding set instead.

 

There seems to be no logic to reporting numbers at all. The next on the Up is 33, followed by 157. Something to do with point of origin, perhaps? Can our former railwaymen enlighten me on this?

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