RMweb Premium Indomitable026 Posted August 13, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 13, 2017 OK, this is my current thinking. In 1983 we took, what seemed at the time, an epic journey to the highland capital of Inverness. We stopped in the station hotel allowing easy viewing of the station and its activities. At the time the main motive power was a combination of Sulzer class 26s, 27s and 47s. I'm not noted for keeping records of anything but for some reason on this trip I'd bought a spotting book and duly noted the loco's I'd seen. I have images indelibly marked in my mind from this trip, I was only twelve at the time. I've looked at modelling this subject before, indeed I started a thread with the same name previously, to have been built in Scale 7. These plans were far to ambitious as I was trying to model all elements of the shed which resulted in a huge size, the reality of the cost of 'O' gauge also became apparent, particularly for the amount of loco's I would have required. Highland Sulzers - S7 was dead. More recently I've been reviewing what I want out of the hobby, which certainly from an exhibition point of view, means convenience and speed of erection and dismantling - I needed to get away from larger projects, something I previously seamed to default to. All though 'Diesels in the Duchy' isn't a large layout, on your own it can take a good while to assemble. If I'm going to keep attending shows it needs to work for me with my unnecessarily hectic lifestyle. Drawing inspiration from Mark Forests P4 layout 'Fryers Lane' I now plan to build a small and much more manageable layout, sized around 5 feet long and around 20 inches wide for the scenic element. It will be a representation of the fuel and stores roads of Inverness TMD. The main Lochgorm Works building will form the backdrop set at an angle with its associated out buildings. The unique fuelling canopies will be included, hopefully placing the location, along with all the associated oil, fuel and antifreeze storage tanks. Oh, and it'll be my first foray in to P4. Watch this space... 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 (edited) I have to say, Porthchullin always gets me hooked when I see it at a Show, with the Sulzer 26 and 27, and that's why I built Glen Roy for the Exhibitions, Will you be just sticking to the Blue period Damian? It certainly sounds another interesting project. Edited August 13, 2017 by Andrew P Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Indomitable026 Posted August 13, 2017 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted August 13, 2017 I have to say, Porthchullin always gets me hooked when I see it at a Show, with the Sulzer 26 and 27, and that's why I built Glen Roy for the Exhibitions, Will you be just sticking to the Blue period Damian? It certainly sounds another interesting project. I'll be sticking to the blue period of the early eighties, DitD covers the other period that interests me - sectorisation, I don't see any need for overlap. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Indomitable026 Posted August 13, 2017 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted August 13, 2017 Here's a drawing of the area I'm looking to model. The angle of the main shed will have to be brought around clockwise, the idea is that the shed will stretch the whole length of the layout to form the back drop. This will result in compression of the central area, I'll have to remove some of the tanks etc, perhaps half of them so still maintain the look. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Indomitable026 Posted August 13, 2017 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted August 13, 2017 Mark F has very kindly superimposed a possible track formation on top of the drawing of the real thing. The track formation looks like it will work, note the board the plan is sat on is only 4 feet by 20 inches, I'll be looking at another foot on the length here added to the right hand side. The track probably needs to shuffle to the right a little so the point work is well clear of the board end. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Indomitable026 Posted August 13, 2017 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted August 13, 2017 So I'm thinking that the back 'Lochgorm Works' building will be aligned something like this... I need draw it up but you get idea 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Indomitable026 Posted August 13, 2017 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted August 13, 2017 Below are a few links to give a feel of the general environment. Front doors of the wash out shed; Fuel and Oil bulk delivery siding. Refuelling shelters Stores road Cross Country DMU on fuel road 26027 Fuel roads 26046 on wash out road 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 2ManySpams Posted August 13, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 13, 2017 Good to see you've had a really good think about what you want to do but also what you have the time to do. I'm sure choosing a project that all the parts are readily available (with a heap of conversation effort) and that can be put up and used in the house between shows is just what you need right now. Funny how when we all started it was big layouts we all wanted. I'd loved to have done Tavistock, Okehampton, Padstow or the west end of Exeter Central as a follow-on to Treneglos but I'm now very glad we didn't. Work and domestic commitments don't half make building and exhibiting a large layout difficult these days. Good luck with this one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Signaller69 Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 Nice project, my interest in all things "Scottish Diesel" started around the same time through trips with my Dad. Looking forward to watching this develop. Martyn. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Indomitable026 Posted August 13, 2017 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted August 13, 2017 A few more links... 37262 Head on shot 37114 fuel road Breakdown crane Class 40 27s Stores road Works side view with signal box Two 26s and a 40 on the fuel road Disc fitted 40 on fuel road Centre box 40, fuel shelter 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Indomitable026 Posted August 13, 2017 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted August 13, 2017 A few more 26037 25247 Stores road, 47539 26021, stores road 47550, wash out shed 5125, wash out road Works building side view Fuel delivery road, 26s Fuel roads and station avoiding lines 40 & 26 on stores road D5339, fuel road Two 26s on fuel delivery road 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Indomitable026 Posted August 13, 2017 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted August 13, 2017 More, Single headlight 26 Fuel shelter End of stores road Class 27 white stripe Class 27 with Stag, open day? Side building, class 47 Fuel tanks 47118, fuel road 47461 snow ploughs, wash shed Back shot, off stores road Shed side, stores road, sand machine? 37s, stores road Large logo 37 wash road shed 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Indomitable026 Posted August 13, 2017 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted August 13, 2017 24 102 stores road 5125, 5345 Stores road back view, 26s Stores road 5118 25068, fuel road 5130 26038, plus class 20 26108, plus 2 class 20s Three 26s Plenty of inspiration, however a little detective work is required as there are no clear overall views of the side of the large shed and its annex buildings, particularly in the stores area. Nobody takes pictures of buildings, just locos! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mark Forrest Posted August 13, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 13, 2017 Excellent news, glad to see that this has progressed to the thread starting phase. Pleased that Fryers has been an inspiration. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Indomitable026 Posted August 13, 2017 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted August 13, 2017 Excellent news, glad to see that this has progressed to the thread starting phase. Pleased that Fryers has been an inspiration. Yes thanks for that. I needed to get on and do something !! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold mudmagnet Posted August 13, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 13, 2017 Looks like a great idea D! There is a lot to be said for a small layout, of which progress to get something running can be fairly quick. Added to the comments already made about ease of transport / setting up / dismantling. I'm assuming that you will be sound fitting the locos and the SLW 24 is simply superb and can be ordered as P4 fitted, so at least saves one conversion! Of course, the cost is relatively high. Added to that a few Heljan 26 / 27 to get started. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Indomitable026 Posted August 13, 2017 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted August 13, 2017 Looks like a great idea D! There is a lot to be said for a small layout, of which progress to get something running can be fairly quick. Added to the comments already made about ease of transport / setting up / dismantling. I'm assuming that you will be sound fitting the locos and the SLW 24 is simply superb and can be ordered as P4 fitted, so at least saves one conversion! Of course, the cost is relatively high. Added to that a few Heljan 26 / 27 to get started. Yes, we'll go sound fitted, but at least this way it will be a lot cheaper than my earlier scale 7 idea... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Indomitable026 Posted August 13, 2017 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted August 13, 2017 Here's an interesting wagon - chevrons on the roof.. https://goo.gl/images/hXY1yJ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mark Forrest Posted August 14, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 14, 2017 Here's an interesting wagon - chevrons on the roof.. https://goo.gl/images/hXY1yJ I guess for visibility from the air if it got stuck in a snow drift?Interesting conversion from a VDA; probably later than the period you're looking at though I think. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.C.M Posted August 14, 2017 Share Posted August 14, 2017 Hi Damian, Glad to see this idea up and going again. Always thought it would be a good layout. Cheers Peter. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Indomitable026 Posted August 14, 2017 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted August 14, 2017 Hi Damian, Glad to see this idea up and going again. Always thought it would be a good layout. Cheers Peter. Peter, Nice picture, where was it taken? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimleygrid Posted August 14, 2017 Share Posted August 14, 2017 Excellent scene to model, I look forward to seeing your new project develop. Lots of scope for modelling some lovely Scottish traction. I take it we will see a few Large Logo 37s?!!! Or are you planning to only model 1983? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.C.M Posted August 14, 2017 Share Posted August 14, 2017 Peter, Nice picture, where was it taken? I think north of the area you are modelling but still in the Triangle of tracks.Could be the carriage sidings area. Cheers Peter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
forest2807 Posted August 14, 2017 Share Posted August 14, 2017 (edited) I think north of the area you are modelling but still in the Triangle of tracks.Could be the carriage sidings area. Cheers Peter. It is round the back of the carriage maintenance shed - built in the 1980's - where employees could park their cars on the gravel along the entire length of the building. IIRC access was via Rose Street level crossing (at the end of the Far North platforms and just to the north of the triangle). Edited August 14, 2017 by forest2807 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
forest2807 Posted August 14, 2017 Share Posted August 14, 2017 (edited) This shows what I mean, even though it is a contemporary map. The long thin building to the north of the station avoiding line is the carriage depot. Immediately to the north of it is the sidings where the photo of 37114 was taken. I have some shots taken from an identical position. Edited August 14, 2017 by forest2807 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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