Andrew P Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 Yes PAD's 57xx is a masterpiece!!! Good luck with yours, they are excellent kits, I've done their 4F, and I have another 2 x 57xx's, a 2251, a Ex L&Y 3F Class 27 and a Class 25 diesel, and they all are excellently thought out. It's just getting the time to build them (could do with a month off really!!!) Jinty That's called retirement David. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jintyman Posted May 24, 2016 Author Share Posted May 24, 2016 That's called retirement David. That'll be nice when it eventually comes. Well I'm awaiting a couple of bits that were missing from the Pannier kit, namely the vacuum cylinder and a couple of steps. Laurie was very helpful as usual. So in the meantime, this bit of brass fell out of its box and onto the workbench, so i decided to proceed with it as it shouldn't take long (well it'd be rude not to!!), and a wagon acts as a bit of light relief when building an engine. It's an M&M Bogie Bolster wagon. The long folds would be difficult I think without some decent folding bars, but the main body folds together quite nicely. I'll probably crack on with it again tomorrow. Jinty 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve fay Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 Very interesting as I've been looking at these kits for the steel traffic for Gaer junction. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Fitness Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 (edited) I quite like the M&M kits. They make good affordable basic wagons from a commendably small amount of parts. Similar to PRMRP ones and made from quite thick brass too so they end up fairly robust. The only downsides are fairly basic/generic details on some (suits me as they usually become invisible in a rake! ) and I find on some, the brake gear is sometimes a bit er..vague!, They do enable a rake of wagons to be built fairly quickly!! Jon F Edited May 25, 2016 by Jon Fitness 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.C.M Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 Hi Jinty, The Mineral wagon does look good. I nearly bought a Catfish kit a few years ago from M&M they don't look to bad and way cheaper than a Hejan one. Keep up the great work Mate. Cheers Peter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jintyman Posted May 25, 2016 Author Share Posted May 25, 2016 (edited) Hi Jinty, The Mineral wagon does look good. I nearly bought a Catfish kit a few years ago from M&M they don't look to bad and way cheaper than a Hejan one. Keep up the great work Mate. Cheers Peter. Hi Peter, Yes the M&M kits are quite good, it doesn't take long to put one together, and a good few can be built quite quickly. I agree with Jon above that they do lack a little in the finer details, but this can be masked quite well with weathering and viewing distance, although the 16t mineral stands up to closer inspection I think. If you fancy a 7mm Catfish, then you need to have a look at the MMP version. I think Mr Grumpy of this parish built one not long ago. Fabulous kits!!! I've done a bit more on the Bogie Bolster this morning, bogies built, all the underfloor detail has been fettled and cleaned ready for assembly, but spent the afternoon in the hospital for tests and CT scan, so having an evening of putting feet up. Jinty Edited May 25, 2016 by Jintyman 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CME and Bottlewasher Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 Hi Jintyman, Hows things? I dont seem to be getting Thread updates so need to look into why. Kindest, CME Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jintyman Posted May 29, 2016 Author Share Posted May 29, 2016 Well seeing as I was supposed to have a day off today, I ended up working, and working again tomorrow!! I got home around 4, had something to eat, then wandered off to the garage to see what I could get up to. I had a couple of hours on the Bogie Bolster and made some progress. the inner solebars and the underframe was pretty much finished off, apart from the brake linkages, which are next on the list. Here is a photo of progress to date................ I have a 'Toad' brakevan to weather which I will probably start tomorrow. I had intended to start it today, but with working, time went too quickly. Jinty 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
muddys-blues Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 (edited) Well seeing as I was supposed to have a day off today, I ended up working, and working again tomorrow!! .................. does that not equal more modelling funds though ? It is absolutely nuts with tourist this end, not complaining though it's been a few years since the main holiday week and good weather have got in sync I think I will just be on "work, eat, sleep repeat" this week. PS nice work on the bogie bolster Jints Best regards Craig. Edited May 30, 2016 by muddys-blues 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jintyman Posted May 30, 2016 Author Share Posted May 30, 2016 Today I've started on the Toad brakevan for weathering, for a member on here. Thought I might show how I go about the process. There are many ways to skin a cat, this is mine! First off I added some painting detail to the inside of the veranda, the wooden floor, the brake standard and the wooden shelf. I then went around the whole body picking out the parts that I want to show as rusty or just rust stained with enamel rusty coloured paint. Only a gentle application is needed in pretty much most of the areas where rust is. I then followed this with the application of weathering liquids, in particular, 'Mud Brown' and 'Rusty Red'. The mud brown was applied as downward streaks and gathered in the edges, grooves and corners. I prefer the mud brown to the black smoke liquid as it isn't as dark, and allows some of the original colour to show through. I then used some rusty red, concentrating on the areas that I'd previously daubed enamel paint onto, flowing the red stain downwards as gravity would pull the flow of rusty staining. This is one side of the van, it's taken a good couple of hours of applying stain and then using cotton buds to remove it. Once I've been around the whole of the van like this, I will then start with weathering powders. I tend to use the MIG powders, as they adhere quite well, and are easy to manipulate. Once I've used the powders, I will then proceed with the airbrush, frame dirt and matt black, worked into the shapes and underframe to tone it all down. I will continue tomorrow evening, hopefully. Jinty 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold MarshLane Posted May 30, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 30, 2016 Hi Jinty, Very impressed. I really must have a got at this weathering lark, its just gaining the knowledge to buck up the courage! That 'Toad' really does look superb tho, well done. Rich Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
3 link Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 Hi Jinty, You mentioned " Mud Brown and Rusty Red " can you tell me who makes these colours, I haven't heard of them before. Martyn. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jintyman Posted May 31, 2016 Author Share Posted May 31, 2016 Hi Jinty, You mentioned " Mud Brown and Rusty Red " can you tell me who makes these colours, I haven't heard of them before. Martyn. Hi Martyn, They are from a company called 'MODELMATES', usually about £5 ish a bottle, but they go a long way. They are alcohol based, and if they tend to stain the paintwork too much, I use IPA to remove the excess staining. Jinty Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jintyman Posted June 1, 2016 Author Share Posted June 1, 2016 And further on with the Toad brakevan. After some liberal application of MIG powders and then the airbrush, the van is starting to look somewhat finished. All that's really left to do now is to mark the handrails as they were used to climb up, and to dust some powders inside the veranda. Here are a few pictures, taken in our lovely Welsh sunshine................ Sorry about the gratuitous pictures of a single item. Back onto the bogie bolster today and a Parkside Ex-LMS open wagon too. Jinty 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve fay Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 Great job David that looks superb. Can you send it down on the next train to Pontypool road via Gaer junction. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jintyman Posted June 1, 2016 Author Share Posted June 1, 2016 (edited) Great job David that looks superb. Can you send it down on the next train to Pontypool road via Gaer junction. Certainly will Steve, glad you like it. As I mentioned, I'll just get the inside of the veranda dusted over and sealed and let it all dry out properly and It'll be on its way. Jinty PS: It's sitting in Talyllyn Junction's platform 2 at the moment, so it's not far off!!! Edited June 1, 2016 by Jintyman 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simond Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 David proper job. Don't apologise for multiple pictures of a model that looks that good! best Simon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
muddys-blues Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 Fantastic work on the Toad Jints ............................. ps sssshhhhh about the Welsh sunshine, there is enough people here as it is, the place is bursting at the seams with tourist, we can't possibly accommodate anymore this week ;-) Craig. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PjKing1 Posted June 2, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 2, 2016 Looks fantastic Jinty wish I could get the hang of these weathering liquids or washes, it's something I really struggle with. Keep up the great work Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jintyman Posted June 2, 2016 Author Share Posted June 2, 2016 Looks fantastic Jinty wish I could get the hang of these weathering liquids or washes, it's something I really struggle with. Keep up the great work Hi Paul, Thanks for the compliment There is nothing secret about them, they are alcohol based and you can remove their effects with IPA. Once applied I use a cotton bud, dipped in water to rub most of it off. On the Modelmates website there are some tutorials on how to use their products (Or there was). I'm sure they'd be a benefit to someone such as yourself with your weathering skills. Jinty Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PjKing1 Posted June 2, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 2, 2016 Thanks Jinty I'll take a look Cheers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bri.s Posted June 2, 2016 Share Posted June 2, 2016 Very nice work on wearying on the brake van not too much just the right amount Brian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
philip-griffiths Posted June 3, 2016 Share Posted June 3, 2016 The van looks great. I have a question. You have Pontypool Road as the home depot of this toad. I have also seen this on rtr models. I would have thought that a different depot would supply brake vans to the trains working through Tallylyn such as Ebbw Junction, Neath or Hereford. Of course if it was worked to Hereford from Pontypool it could of course have then be used for a working over the Hereford & Hay line to Three Cocks and then on towards Brecon. I'm not knowledgeable about this but would be keen to know more as I have an interest in the Taff Vale Extension running west from Pontypool. regards Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jintyman Posted June 3, 2016 Author Share Posted June 3, 2016 The van looks great. I have a question. You have Pontypool Road as the home depot of this toad. I have also seen this on rtr models. I would have thought that a different depot would supply brake vans to the trains working through Tallylyn such as Ebbw Junction, Neath or Hereford. Of course if it was worked to Hereford from Pontypool it could of course have then be used for a working over the Hereford & Hay line to Three Cocks and then on towards Brecon. I'm not knowledgeable about this but would be keen to know more as I have an interest in the Taff Vale Extension running west from Pontypool. regards Hi there, Yes you are quite right in noticing that the 'Toad' brakevan has the 'Pontypool Rd' transfer in its side. The brakevan is not for Talyllyn Junction, I have only weathered the van for Steve Fay who has a couple of layouts underway which I'm sure will have passing traffic from that particular depot. Talyllyn has its own 'Toad' which has been marked 'Newport'. Thank you for the compliment. Jinty 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachmann Posted June 3, 2016 Share Posted June 3, 2016 I think it had reached a stage where it was well nigh perfect in post #885 with paintwork washed by rain and matted/bleached by the sun. Whatever, I enjoy seeing fine modelling. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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