RMweb Premium Reorte Posted July 11, 2015 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted July 11, 2015 Right, I'm dragging this back up because I've finally got around to getting a photo of the sign in question (this late is very fast by my standards!): Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dp123 Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 Is there a foot crossing nearby? It could be a sighting board for vegetation clearance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Reorte Posted July 13, 2015 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted July 13, 2015 (edited) It's a little way past one (coming from the direction I was going) and the next actual foot crossing is a bit too far beyond it to be seen vegitation or not (probably, can't be sure never having seen the view from straight ahead). However there is a private farm crossing I didn't know about until walking past (visible on the Google link above though) which I didn't think about. The sign is on the inside of a slight curve from there so might may be visible from that side of that crossing. Edited July 13, 2015 by Reorte Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterAzuma Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 Is it this http://www.railsigns.uk/sect12page2/sect12page2.html “[12.21] TVM Block Marker / CBTC Block Marker (e.g. applies to the line on the right). “ 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken.W Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 On 12/05/2015 at 11:35, big jim said: Isn't the hexagon stop sign an order rather than a warning? I seem to remember when i took my driving test (a long time ago) by official highway rules you have to stop at one, and i seem to remeber there being something about applying your handbrake too Just seen this as this thread's now resurfaced I believe the idea of the hexagonal 'STOP' road sign instead of the normal circular for signs giving orders is so that it's still distinguishable if the surface's covered in snow. (And yes, it is compulsory to come to a complete stop at such signs) Similarly, the 'Give Way' sign is the only 'upside down' triangle (ie point down) 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold big jim Posted May 2, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 2, 2021 4 hours ago, PeterAzuma said: Is it this http://www.railsigns.uk/sect12page2/sect12page2.html “[12.21] TVM Block Marker / CBTC Block Marker (e.g. applies to the line on the right). “ thats only found one ETRMS/ECTS fitted lines, the Buxton line isn’t fitted 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthEndCab Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 On 11/07/2015 at 22:18, Reorte said: Right, I'm dragging this back up because I've finally got around to getting a photo of the sign in question (this late is very fast by my standards!): Its a marker board for P-way, it means there’s less than 8 seconds visibility at linespeed. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark L Horstead Posted May 4, 2021 Share Posted May 4, 2021 (edited) On 02/05/2021 at 15:45, Ken.W said: I believe the idea of the hexagonal 'STOP' road sign instead of the normal circular for signs giving orders is so that it's still distinguishable if the surface's covered in snow. The origin is North American, and most likely US specifically. While stationed in Lahr, West Germany from 1986 to 1989, I saw them on and around our two bases (Baden-Sollingen being the other one) and US bases. Traffic fatalities were higher, per capita, in Germany than in Canada, but the Canadian traffic fatality rate in Germany was higher than the German rate (as we were told during our on-arrival written driving test) due to different rules and customs. That would indubitably have been the same for Americans. An excessive number of Germans were likely also killed or injured by confused or ignorant Canadian and American drivers, so adopting them in high-risk areas would have been prudent. They seem to have spread from there, like an invasive species. I saw a few in France and Holland during my travels as well. Interestingly, those in Germany, France, and Holland all had "STOP" on them. In Quebec, our French-speaking province, they say "ARRET". There is a language purity movement in that province which discourages the casual and natural adoption of English terms. Edited May 4, 2021 by Mark L Horstead Dates of Posting to Lahr added. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken.W Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 On 04/05/2021 at 15:53, Mark L Horstead said: The origin is North American, and most likely US specifically. They seem to have spread from there, like an invasive species. I saw a few in France and Holland during my travels as well. Ah yes, US customs do seem to have a tendency to spread like invasive species. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold dmu 156 Posted May 21, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 21, 2021 I'm used to be a driver for Northern out of Manchester Piccadilly so I signed the Buxton route, the solid yellow triangle you are referring to is for sighting of a foot-crossing that can be affected by the growth of vegetation . The idea is that if a driver cannot see the triangle, the vegetation needs cutting down. The triangle can also be seen by pedestrians at the crossing if a P Way inspection finds they can't see the triangle from the crossing the vegetation gets cut down. Its a way of giving the driver or crossing users time to see each other which avoids the need to put up whistle boards which now require planning permission, which you can imagine is difficult to obtain with todays anti- noise legislation. There are a couple of these triangles on the line between Stalybridge and Baguley Fold Jnc. The picture Big Jim has posted is what was used to show where there were trailing catch points on gradients back in the day of un-braked vehicles to stop runaways coming into conflict with other trains. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold dmu 156 Posted May 22, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 22, 2021 The white triangle with 'S' on it in the 'Class 40 thrash' video posted by Big Jim on the 6th of May is indicating the location of spring points. These are in effect unworked trailing catch points so they will always derail a runaway vehicle travelling in the wrong direction on a falling gradients. It is a very steep gradient coming down from Dove Holes to Whaley bridge on the Buxton line. to allow wrong direction moves if needed, they would have to be manually clipped and locked for the movement. In the right direction trains just run through them with each twheel flange pushing the point blades over. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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