Jack P Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 (edited) Back in May I ordered 30082 to back-date to 83 in Bulleid livery ( identical details - wish I could find that site again ! ) ................. looks like I'm getting 30089 instead ! I got the southern railway Lined black one to, err, update, into Bulleid livery. Would this not be easier as there is no smokebox number plate or are there certain details you were trying to get with 30089? Simply curious. As I've already made a mistake with an LBSC liveried E4.. Edited January 11, 2018 by Jack P Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
olivegreen Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 I got the southern rail Lined black one to, err, update, into Bulleid livery. Would this not be easier as there is no smokebox number plate or are there certain details you were trying to get with 30089? Simply curious. As I've already made a mistake with an LBSC liveried E4.. WHAT? The Men in Malachite detect such heresies. Be afraid. Be very afraid. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickham Green Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 I got the southern railway Lined black one to, err, update, into Bulleid livery. Would this not be easier as there is no smokebox number plate or are there certain details you were trying to get with 30089? Simply curious. As I've already made a mistake with an LBSC liveried E4.. Somewhere, somewhere on this marvellous interweb thingy, I found a page that detailed the differences ( boiler, chimney, whatever ) - and 30082 seemed identical to 83 at my required date & area ............... I did print it off so it'll be buried under something at home, somewhere. Unfortunately, Dapol then noticed that these two locos are the Drummond version and decided to change production to Adams 30089 without telling anybody .................................................................. anyway, wouldn't be the first smokebox plate I've scraped off - and it's only black paint if needed ! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack P Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 WHAT? The Men in Malachite detect such heresies. Be afraid. Be very afraid. Oh dear. Need to pay more attention to posting while at work it seems.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sem34090 Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 I'm debating whether to 'join up' to get the pretty Adams Green one (to join my Adams Green Radial) or BR Early black to join my BR(S) fleet... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack P Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 Somewhere, somewhere on this marvellous interweb thingy, I found a page that detailed the differences ( boiler, chimney, whatever ) - and 30082 seemed identical to 83 at my required date & area ............... I did print it off so it'll be buried under something at home, somewhere. Unfortunately, Dapol then noticed that these two locos are the Drummond version and decided to change production to Adams 30089 without telling anybody .................................................................. anyway, wouldn't be the first smokebox plate I've scraped off - and it's only black paint if needed ! Guess its time for me to find my required prototype at the correct time... if the tank top details are separately applied it might make things easier! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Edwardian Posted January 20, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 20, 2018 Has anyone seen a decent and up to date image showing the rear of the Dapol B4? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickham Green Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 Has anyone seen a decent and up to date image showing the rear of the Dapol B4? B4 behind ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRman Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 B4 after end! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dunsignalling Posted January 22, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 22, 2018 Has anyone seen a decent and up to date image showing the rear of the Dapol B4? Only rear end photo I've seen is most of the back of the early BR sample pictured in Post #216, back in November. John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Edwardian Posted January 23, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 23, 2018 It's just that the rather old EP image I have seen seems to show a row of dimples where, well, almost where, on the prototype it appears that a row of holes should be. I wondered if that was still the case. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dunsignalling Posted January 23, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 23, 2018 (edited) It's just that the rather old EP image I have seen seems to show a row of dimples where, well, almost where, on the prototype it appears that a row of holes should be. I wondered if that was still the case. It shouldn't be too much of a problem so long as there are the right number of dimples and they are correctly located. Rows of small holes are quite tricky things to represent well in injection mouldings and it's the work of moments with a pin vice to transform a dimple into a hole. Personally, I'd far rather have to do that than (possibly) having over-sized holes to deal with. John Edited January 29, 2018 by Dunsignalling Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Edwardian Posted January 23, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 23, 2018 It shouldn't be too much of a problem so long as there are the right number of dimples and they are correctly located. Rows of small holes are quite tricky things to represent well in injection mouldings and it's the work of moments with a pin vice to transform a dimple into a hole. Personally, I'd far rather have that to do that than (possibly) having over-sized holes to deal with. John I agree. The placing of the dimples seems to be the more significant aspect. It would be preferable if any corrections could be achieved without wrecking the cosmetic finish. This is particularly so where the non-plain black liveries are concerned. I wouldn't fancy changing the position of a boiler band on the brown job, for instance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torn-on-the-platform Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 Has anyone heard any further whisperings of delivery dates for the B4? Hattons still say January-March. I'm sure that not everyone is keen on a post just asking the above question, so will include a shot of Normandy in 2013 in the yard at Sheffield Park. I do have some shots of it in steam from a rather enjoyable afternoon around 2004 but am unable to put my hands on them, so this will have to do! 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack P Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 Has anyone heard any further whisperings of delivery dates for the B4? Hattons still say January-March. Would like to know also. That Picture of Normandy is fantastic, would love to see more if you can find them Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickham Green Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 Has anyone heard any further whisperings of delivery dates for the B4? Hattons still say January-March. I'm sure that not everyone is keen on a post just asking the above question, so will include a shot of Normandy in 2013 in the yard at Sheffield Park. I do have some shots of it in steam from a rather enjoyable afternoon around 2004 but am unable to put my hands on them, so this will have to do! Now, if that was a Hornby teaser, we could expect them to announce a u-boat for 2019 ! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
autocoach Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 (edited) Now, if that was a Hornby teaser, we could expect them to announce a u-boat for 2019 ! B4 there was U.... Actually Hornby USA did offer a U Boat...GE U25C..... Edited January 29, 2018 by autocoach Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torn-on-the-platform Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 I have dusted off the external hard drive and searched through all my Bluebell photos. I think the memories are better than my photos of Normandy! Here are the acceptable 2... taken in 2004 and 2007. The 2004 photo shows the semi-royal saloon and Eagle, now departed. Not sure if the semi-royal remains at the railway but if it is still there I understand that it is unwanted. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pre Grouping fan Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 The semi royal saloon left a few years ago. Went to Lavender line at Isfield, sold and returned last year for a filming job briefly. Now in a carpark of a curry house last I heard of it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torn-on-the-platform Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 The semi royal saloon left a few years ago. Went to Lavender line at Isfield, sold and returned last year for a filming job briefly. Now in a carpark of a curry house last I heard of it A real shame! I'd have thought there would be quite a few who'd be keen to have it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluebell Model Railway Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 Last heard it was due in March... or around that time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickham Green Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 A real shame! I'd have thought there would be quite a few who'd be keen to have it. Seemingly still in the curry house car park according to http://www.cs.vintagecarriagestrust.org/se/CarriageInfo.asp?Ref=582 : http://mumbai-central.co.uk/welcome.php seems to be more up to date than https://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/Restaurant_Review-g1371591-d3217680-Reviews-Calcutta_Club-Halstead_Sevenoaks_District_Kent_England.html ............ not where a railway carriage SHOULD be, but looks like it's being appreciated !!?! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black 5 Bear Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 Saw various Dapol versions of the B4 yesterday including Normandy at Dapol Chirk. They looked absolutely superb ! 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickham Green Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 Saw various Dapol versions of the B4 yesterday including Normandy at Dapol Chirk. They looked absolutely superb ! Any update on the "Due into stock between January 2018 & March 2018" guesstimate ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rembrow Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 Any update on the "Due into stock between January 2018 & March 2018" guesstimate ? Gaugemaster posted the February and March proposed release programmes by Dapol in early February and the B4s weren't listed, so unlikely to be before April. It looks like Dapol have a large release programme of 'O' gauge GWR panniers proposed for March, as well as sundry 'O' gauge wagons, also the 'n' gauge Class 68 and 142 are both listed as new releases in Feb/March so that may be sapping their production and funding capacity Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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