Floreat Industria Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 The digital edition of BRM is now live - https://pocketmags.com/british-railway-modelling-magazine - we do go big on the Stirling Single but it really is a rather special model. Well done to Rapido Bill for making it work so well! I've just picked up the print copy and there is one error. The prices quoted are the balance prices and don't take into account the £50 deposit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold chris p bacon Posted June 27, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 27, 2018 I've just picked up the print copy and there is one error. The prices quoted are the balance prices and don't take into account the £50 deposit. Phil Parker will be around later with some tippex. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold ikks Posted June 27, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 27, 2018 HI, Here is a photo of the model on Thorne Yard at the Perth show over the weekend. 36177450_863807890471057_6383051743864815616_n.jpg We have to say a massive thanks to Locomotion models for allowing us to have the use of the model over the weekend. OMG wish I had the money...........Mike Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSpencer Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 (edited) Do we know if these have left China yet? With the holiday season coming up and the post office keeping things to one side for 2 weeks before sending them back, I don't fancy the NRM posting it, it being sent back (because failed to collect it for 2 weeks) and then resent again.... Sure the odds of it arriving on the 1st day of someones holiday is slim, maybe 1 in 10, but that will be a few hundred parcels pinging back and forth! And I'm always a huge victim of Murphy's law. Edited June 28, 2018 by JSpencer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSpencer Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/98067-rapidolocomotion-models-gnr-stirling-single/page-43&do=findComment&comment=3200182 - Alex Thanks. So 14th June, if via ship, will take until 14th July at least. About one week to reach me.... Hmmmm there is a 1 in 10 chance Murphy's law will apply. Now if I ask for it be delayed, there is a 1 in 5 chance it will be lost/forgotten about. I'm dooomed..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Methuselah Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 Do we know if these have left China yet? With the holiday season coming up and the post office keeping things to one side for 2 weeks before sending them back, I don't fancy the NRM posting it, it being sent back (because failed to collect it for 2 weeks) and then resent again.... Sure the odds of it arriving on the 1st day of someones holiday is slim, maybe 1 in 10, but that will be a few hundred parcels pinging back and forth! And I'm always a huge victim of Murphy's law. No problemo - if you have spent the money on one of these - you won't be able to afford a holiday anyway...! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSpencer Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 No problemo - if you have spent the money on one of these - you won't be able to afford a holiday anyway...! I paid fully when it was announced and did not go on holiday that year. Had I known that it would have arrived a few years when I was about to go on holiday, I would have done the opposite. All the best laid plans... and Murphy's strikes again! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdvle Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 Thanks. So 14th June, if via ship, will take until 14th July at least. About one week to reach me.... Hmmmm there is a 1 in 10 chance Murphy's law will apply. Except the Rapido Twitter posting on June 14th said they left a couple of weeks previously, so say around June 1st... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSpencer Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 Except the Rapido Twitter posting on June 14th said they left a couple of weeks previously, so say around June 1st... Oh! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickham Green Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 Except the Rapido Twitter posting on June 14th said they left a couple of weeks previously, so say around June 1st... July ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Decorum Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 I’m looking forward to this but I’m quite relaxed about it. It’ll probably arrive on 31st. June. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdvle Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 July ? Bad wording on my part, I meant June 1st as to when they likely would have left the factory. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Jol Wilkinson Posted June 29, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 29, 2018 Nobody called anybody non - modellers or box openers as you put it, where on earth you picked that up from is anyone's guess The point you seem to have missed is that undeniably the Average Modeller, the box openers as you call them, are the people who keep the hobby going. Without the box openers there would be no Peco, Hornby or Bachmann and probably none of the wide circulation magazines or exhibitions. Really! That depends on whether you see Bachmann and the other manufacturers as the core of the hobby. Or whether you see modellers as the core and the RTR manufacturers as just another part of the supply industry. Perhaps it may also be worth considering whether those that went before, improving what was available through creating kits, accessories, "customising parts", etc. didn't have some influence on motivating the RTR manufacturers to produce better models, so that all you have to do is open a box. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Smith Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 (edited) As us older members can remember there have been a number of RTR manufacturers over the years. Many have ceased trading or been bought out. It is difficult to know how the manufacturers decide on level of detail and thus price level; there is obviously some level of competition but this can only go so far or prices will be so high that they will not sell. The subject of this thread is at the top end, and of a very specialist prototype. I doubt the market could support too many like this, many of which will go in display cases and might just as well have been un-powered. The writing is on the wall for Chinese factory pricing, when production moves to another third world country the prices may drop, but so may the quality. This may end up being cyclic. RTR may go back 30 years and encourage a new market for conversion kits and bits...... It would be interesting to speculate what would happen if Hornby and/or Bachmann ceased production. I am fascinated that Peco has managed to survive, and seemingly thrive on it's mostly made in the UK range of kits, RTR stock and track. Years ago it dabbled with a RTR N gauge loco (Black Five I think) but did not follow up, I wonder why? Edited June 29, 2018 by Jeff Smith 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heritage Tim Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 Spoke to Stuart at locomotion today and he says he hopes that people who have paid will have them by the end of July. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold papagolfjuliet Posted June 30, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 30, 2018 I am fascinated that Peco has managed to survive, and seemingly thrive on it's mostly made in the UK range of kits, RTR stock and track. Years ago it dabbled with a RTR N gauge loco (Black Five I think) but did not follow up, I wonder why? They did a Jub about forty years ago, which was of very high quality for the time and which IIRC was made for them by a continental firm. About a decade ago they had another crack at the RTR N market with a Collett Goods, which seems to have sunk without trace. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenGiraffe22 Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 Why is this argument between kitbuilders/scratchbuilders, RTR buyers and those who do both even a thing? The whole thing feels like a school playground where everyone has split into cliques (the cool kids, the nerdy kids, the tough kids, etc...). Is it so bloody hard to just get on with hobby, let everyone else get on with hobby, stop attacking/criticising others and stop feeling the need to have to defend your way of doing the hobby? ARE WE NOT JUST MEANT TO BE HAVING FUN???? ... - Alex But but but how else are certain individuals supposed to feel superior on the internet? 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trade Member BlueLightning Posted June 30, 2018 Trade Member Share Posted June 30, 2018 Well said Alex, I'm sure the scratch builders are just jealous, after all I only scratch build because I can't afford RTR!!!!!! Gary 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 Nobody called anybody non - modellers or box openers as you put it, where on earth you picked that up from is anyone's guess The point you seem to have missed is that undeniably the Average Modeller, the box openers as you call them, are the people who keep the hobby going. Without the box openers there would be no Peco, Hornby or Bachmann and probably none of the wide circulation magazines or exhibitions. Really! Erm. Read your post back. If that's not trying to provoke an argument then I don't know what is. Ardvark444, on 23 Jun 2018 - 15:05, said: In the absence of RTR this forum would not be here and the kit building ranting pedants would be all alone on a tiny forum far far away. Considering the forum was started by modellers then how can that be true? How about looking at other "model Railway" forums and tell me which one has the knowledgeable members. There are at least half a dozen. Maybe you would like one of those better? Jason Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Methuselah Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 ....anyway - about the Stirling........ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold JCL Posted July 2, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 2, 2018 Out of interest, I’ll be handling mine with kid gloves once I get it here, because I can’t afford a second one, but is anyone looking at one of these with a view to taking a knife to it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwealleans Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 Doubt it. Crew, weather, proper couplings and lamp irons, but I'd be surprised if I end up doing more than that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold chris p bacon Posted July 2, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 2, 2018 Out of interest, I’ll be handling mine with kid gloves once I get it here, because I can’t afford a second one, but is anyone looking at one of these with a view to taking a knife to it? Oh yes, but I think I need it in front of me with the only known photo of the one I prefer. If not then more research is needed. Doubt it. Crew, weather, proper couplings and lamp irons, but I'd be surprised if I end up doing more than that. Go on. . get the knife out .. . . . .you know you want to. . . 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Parker Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 To return to the Single, I borrowed the model from Andy (I have to give it back. Booo) and gave it a quick blast on my 1980s H&M rolling road. I even gave it some DCC flavoured power: http://philsworkbench.blogspot.com/2018/06/putting-stirling-single-through-its.html Nothing fell off, I didn't need to repair anything Mr York had broken and it looks very nice. 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwealleans Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 Go on. . get the knife out .. . . . .you know you want to. . . Depends what I see when I look at the pictures and film I've accrued (and what Mr. King's gimlet eye picks out) but up to now I'm quietly confident I'm going to be impressed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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