Guest Midland Mole Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 Ohh well, no Royal Mail for my birthday then....looks like Bachmann get my money this time (well Hornby got it all at Christmas!). Alex 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cor-onGRT4 Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 seems everything moved up a month compared to hattons release dates from this month Hattons >>> Hornby site Channel Packet 19-01 >>> ?? not mentioned but like Afrika Line 19-02?? Royal Mail 29-01 >>> 2-03 Clan Line 5-02 >>> 9-03 Holland-Afrika Line 19-02 >>> 19-02 But every day changes at Hornby, on the site, last week i did have a look on the coaches GWR Collett and Maunsell and first the release dates were spring and half a hour later all changed to summer, noticed it while I was looking on Collett 3rd class coach it suddenly was not spring but summer and not like before in Q1-Q2 etc but now in the year seasons So think we have to get used to it and have patience. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold adb968008 Posted January 23, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 23, 2017 But it's not a new model - just an existing model with a new running number. And I'm sure at the time Hornby hadn't realized 35018 was unique. So to make this version would require changes to tooling and manufacture which would increase costs and hence the price. Would enough people pay the higher price to enable Hornby to recover those costs? A similar issue happened a few years ago when Hornby announced they would produce the Urie King Arthur as 30755 The Red Knight, only to subsequently discover it had straight smoke deflectors which the existing tooling didn't have. So the model came out instead as 30737 King Uther. They also offered 34046 Braunton and changed it to 34013 Okehampton. Saving 35018 may make sense, wait till the preserved one appears, it may appear as a normal MN. Would be nice to 34046 too someday. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
exet1095 Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 Saw this at the Toyfair today - really tempting! 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Midland Mole Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 IMG_2186.JPG Saw this at the Toyfair today - really tempting! Damn it Hornby, hurry up! Alex Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenGiraffe22 Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 Looks fab! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSpencer Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 Odd they are showing Pecketts too. I mean: Big toy shop "I,ll take 100 of the little blue engines as well...& Hornby "sorry sir they have all been sold" Toy shop "What ? Today ?" Hornby " no last month". Toy shop "ok, discount the big green ones to the same price and I will take the entire run" Hornby "Done" 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Ian Hargrave Posted January 24, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 24, 2017 Odd they are showing Pecketts too. I mean: Big toy shop "I,ll take 100 of the little blue engines as well...& Hornby "sorry sir they have all been sold" Toy shop "What ? Today ?" Hornby " no last month". Toy shop "ok, discount the big green ones to the same price and I will take the entire run" Hornby "Done" I imagine these examples have served time with Hornby's Roadshow since the NEC a couple of months ago and nothing too exciting should be read into it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dunsignalling Posted January 24, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 24, 2017 (edited) They also offered 34046 Braunton and changed it to 34013 Okehampton. Saving 35018 may make sense, wait till the preserved one appears, it may appear as a normal MN. Would be nice to 34046 too someday. Braunton was changed to Okehampton because Hornby don't (as yet) do the correct tender body for Braunton in her rebuilt/preserved guise. It would make a lot of sense for them to do it as that style ran with several rebuilt locos of both WC/BB and MN classes so would make a cheap refresh for both models. John Edited January 24, 2017 by Dunsignalling Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium brushman47544 Posted January 25, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 25, 2017 Braunton was changed to Okehampton because Hornby don't (as yet) do the correct tender body for Braunton in her rebuilt/preserved guise. It would make a lot of sense for them to do it as that style ran with several rebuilt locos of both WC/BB and MN classes so would make a cheap refresh for both models. John Indeed it would, but in Hornby's current financial situation would it be the best way of spending money to maximize a return on it? Unfortunately I doubt it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold toboldlygo Posted January 25, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 25, 2017 Indeed it would, but in Hornby's current financial situation would it be the best way of spending money to maximize a return on it? Unfortunately I doubt it. Hornby would only need to tool up the tender body - as the chassis tooling(s) already exist. It would give them 5 Light Pacifics and 3 Merchant Navy's - excluding British India Line & Orient Line, due to British India Line's unique characteristics and Orient Line need the lengthened 5,250gl (sitting on a 6,000gl chassis) tender, that also found itself behind Canadian Pacific & is currently paired with British India Line!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium brushman47544 Posted January 25, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 25, 2017 Hornby would only need to tool up the tender body - as the chassis tooling(s) already exist. It would give them 5 Light Pacifics and 3 Merchant Navy's - excluding British India Line & Orient Line, due to British India Line's unique characteristics and Orient Line need the lengthened 5,250gl (sitting on a 6,000gl chassis) tender, that also found itself behind Canadian Pacific & is currently paired with British India Line!!! I agree with you but what I was getting at was, since Bulleid Pacifics seem to sell well now, would Hornby sell any more by tooling up this different tender. Yes it would mean new variants could be modelled accurately, but I question whether it would mean more sales overall. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dunsignalling Posted January 25, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 25, 2017 (edited) I agree with you but what I was getting at was, since Bulleid Pacifics seem to sell well now, would Hornby sell any more by tooling up this different tender. Yes it would mean new variants could be modelled accurately, but I question whether it would mean more sales overall. I haven't bought any rebuilt Merchant Navies for several years now because Hornby have only done two basic variants and I decided I have enough of both. 35002 Union Castle would get me reaching for my credit card and there are two other MN tenders that Hornby haven't yet tackled. I also have a rebuilt West Country, 34031 Torrington on my "especially wanted" list, that ran with one of these tenders, as do two preserved examples 34046 Braunton and 34059 Sir Archibald Sinclair and preserved locos generally seem to be especially good sellers. Those two might well have an appeal beyond we Bulleid fans who comprise the "usual suspects", especially with 34046 being a main-line regular. The other thing yet to emerge is the common 1960s pairing of a wide-cab, non-rebuilt Light Pacific with a cut-down 4500 gallon tender. No new tooling required at all. I'd like at least three of those. John Edited January 25, 2017 by Dunsignalling Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold adb968008 Posted January 25, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 25, 2017 I agree with you but what I was getting at was, since Bulleid Pacifics seem to sell well now, would Hornby sell any more by tooling up this different tender. Yes it would mean new variants could be modelled accurately, but I question whether it would mean more sales overall. How many Bulleids have you seen in the sales in the last few years ? Personally being able to sell models of preserved operation Bulleids would be easier than a brake van with handles. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold toboldlygo Posted January 25, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 25, 2017 I agree with you but what I was getting at was, since Bulleid Pacifics seem to sell well now, would Hornby sell any more by tooling up this different tender. Yes it would mean new variants could be modelled accurately, but I question whether it would mean more sales overall. I think it would mean more sales - not only from the Bulleid Nutters, but from the those who model preserved lines and those who'd see a familiar loco with a different tender profile. I also think now that the original series 1 tender (5,000gl) is being produced (with raves obviously) we will see it in it's cut-down form before long.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dunsignalling Posted January 25, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 25, 2017 I think it would mean more sales - not only from the Bulleid Nutters, but from the those who model preserved lines and those who'd see a familiar loco with a different tender profile. I also think now that the original series 1 tender (5,000gl) is being produced (with raves obviously) we will see it in it's cut-down form before long.. I do hope so........... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold toboldlygo Posted January 25, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 25, 2017 I haven't bought any rebuilt Merchant Navies for several years now because Hornby have only done two basic variants and I decided I have enough of each. 35002 Union Castle would get me reaching for my credit card and there are two other MN tenders that Hornby haven't yet tackled. I also have a rebuilt West Country, 34031 Torrington on my "especially wanted" list, that ran with one of these tenders, as do two preserved examples 34046 Braunton and 34059 Sir Archibald Sinclair and preserved locos generally seem to be especially good sellers. John Union Castle... check Torrington... check Braunton... check Sir Archie... keeps repeating on me, so it depends which version you want to see 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dunsignalling Posted January 25, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 25, 2017 How many Bulleids have you seen in the sales in the last few years ? Personally being able to sell models of preserved operation Bulleids would be easier than a brake van with handles. Quite. All the Okehampton models vanished at least as quickly as this years Pecketts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rembrow Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 Hornby have updated the expected dates for the unrebuilts. The 2 Southern Railway versions are now 10 March and BR Clan line is 29 March. Holland Africa Line is now just Summer 2017 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spannerman Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 Fantastic I might actually have the money for the 2 I've pre-ordered by then! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Midland Mole Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 Ahhh, It just would not be Hornby without a random delay. Good job chaps! Now Bachmann, where are my Moguls...and Coal Tanks? Alex Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Brasher Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 I wonder how the Hornby Magazine got its review samples in time for the February edition that came out on the second Thursday of January. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozexpatriate Posted February 4, 2017 Share Posted February 4, 2017 I wonder how the Hornby Magazine got its review samples in time for the February edition that came out on the second Thursday of January. Member Dibber25 has made observations of Hornby Magazine's access to Hornby models to review in at least one thread recently. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Hilux5972 Posted February 4, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 4, 2017 (edited) Member Dibber25 has made observations of Hornby Magazine's access to Hornby models to review in at least one thread recently. And I would trust his observations highly, seeing as he works for Model Rail magazine! He is in the correct industry to know what's going on! Edited February 4, 2017 by Hilux5972 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Ian Hargrave Posted February 4, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 4, 2017 It's also worth restating here that CJL buys any Hornby model he reviews in Model Rail. I think I am correct in the assumption that Hornby in fact do not own Hornby Magazine but obviously there is a kind of "arrangement" in strictly legal terms in consideration of the use of the brand name.We don't know.All very curious and certainly not a level playing field for the hobby magazines which leaves one with an uncomfortable feeling of lack of fairness and objectivity. A shame really,considering the dawn of a more open approach from Hornby.There are however some modellers who dismiss the magazines as irrelevant in this day and age and feel reviews happen online. Of course they do but we still need the opinion of those,as Hilux correctly states "know what's going on" and have knowledge and experience.I make a plea that Hornby end this anomaly and release their products for magazine review. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Create an account or sign in to comment
You need to be a member in order to leave a comment
Create an account
Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!
Register a new accountSign in
Already have an account? Sign in here.
Sign In Now