Andy Y Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 Midland Pullman takes to the rails again Bachmann Europe Plc has released its beautifully presented Midland Pullman Train Packs in both OO and N Scales. These packs complement the previous releases as they represented the first of the two trains which saw service between London St. Pancras and Manchester Central in the 1960s. The new production runs concentrate on the second train to carry the distinctive blue and white livery of the Midland Pullman comprising of coaches (A) M60092 + (B) M60732 + © M60742 + (D) M60743 + (E) M60733 + (F) M60093. The special collector’s edition features a book outlining the train, written especially for Bachmann by the prolific railway author Kevin Robertson, a pack of Pullman stewards and train crew figures, a reproduction menu card and fine art print of the artwork featured on the box. The pack is available from Bachmann dealers as follows: Bachmann Branchline Midland Pullman OO Scale Train Pack (30-425) at a Recommended Retail Price of £599.95. OO Scale DCC users will be required to fit 2 x 21 PIN decoders. Graham Farish Midland Pullman N Scale (370-425) at a Recommended Retail Price of £399.95. N Scale DCC users will be required to fit 2 x 6PIN decoders. For further information, please contact any Bachmann dealer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold stovepipe Posted May 26, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 26, 2016 Bachmann are to be congratulated, I think, on putting such an excellent pack together. But I really don't need two.......do I? Interesting that the DCC chips are extra this time..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Hilux5972 Posted May 26, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 26, 2016 (edited) Interesting that the DCC chips are extra this time..... Yes I would have those get for an rrp of £599 they would have at least included 2 chips in the box. Edited May 26, 2016 by Hilux5972 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
APOLLO Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 No chips - French Fries on the Pullman if you please !!, but you do get a full set of bar stewards for your £600. !!!! Brit 15 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Removed a/c Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 Wonder if the stewards will be available separately. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Removed a/c Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 I remember when the first version came out it was a real bargain compared to buying an HST and 4 MK3s. Now take a Hornby HST and 4 Bachmann pullmans and it IMO seems like a rip off !! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Hilux5972 Posted May 27, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 27, 2016 Wonder if the stewards will be available separately. They have a separate product code of 36-420 so presumably they will be. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyman7 Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 I suspect they put 'Special Collectors Edition' on the box just to wind up certain RMWeb readers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted May 27, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 27, 2016 Bachmann are in business to eat. The first run had rave reviews, sold very well, so, quite apart from escalating costs in China, why not put a premium on the rerun? It's a business, I'm afraid. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmesfeldian Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 Has anyone bought one yet? I'm interested in the Kevin Robertson book and whether it is a fresh work or just a rehash of the original book he produced. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
amdaley Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 I'd be surprised if they sold very many at that RRP but seeing some of the prices that are paid on that auction site I suppose those with deep pockets will be interested. I know my pockets are deep but they have holes in the end of them If anyone is fortunate enough to be able to pay such money I hope they will let us know what the models are like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonny777 Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 I'd be surprised if they sold very many at that RRP but seeing some of the prices that are paid on that auction site I suppose those with deep pockets will be interested. I know my pockets are deep but they have holes in the end of them If anyone is fortunate enough to be able to pay such money I hope they will let us know what the models are like. Discounted here - http://www.modelrailwaysdirect.co.uk/Bachmann-30-425-Midland-Pullman-Train-Pack/ (Other discounting retailers are available - I just happen to be on their email list for new arrivals) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium John Isherwood Posted May 27, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 27, 2016 Discounted here - http://www.modelrailwaysdirect.co.uk/Bachmann-30-425-Midland-Pullman-Train-Pack/ (Other discounting retailers are available - I just happen to be on their email list for new arrivals) http://www.kernowmodelrailcentre.com/p/51162/30-425-Bachmann-Midland-Pullman-Train-Pack Regards, John Isherwood. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
40F Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 They have a separate product code of 36-420 so presumably they will be. Not listed under Scenecraft figures on their web site Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GordonC Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 Discounted here - http://www.modelrailwaysdirect.co.uk/Bachmann-30-425-Midland-Pullman-Train-Pack/ (Other discounting retailers are available - I just happen to be on their email list for new arrivals) 15% is quite standard from a number of shops Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium jjb1970 Posted May 27, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 27, 2016 Indeed the de-facto Bachmann SRP = published SRP - 15% since most of the on-line dealers at least apply the 15% discount which Bachmann apparently allow for the initial release period. No doubt there are shops that do not apply this discount but I'm not sure why people would pay the full SRP when it is so easy to find shops that knock 15% off. On the model, it is beautiful, despite the excellence of the Rapido APT-E I think this remains the nicest passenger tain model offered to UK OO modellers outside of very expensive high end brass efforts. Expensive? Yes, but its a quality product. Whether it is worth the price is a personal judgement decision based on the perceived value of the item. To be honest it is more than I'd pay but I also understand it is a good enough model that others will consider that it is worth the cost. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Removed a/c Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 Bachmann are in business to eat. The first run had rave reviews, sold very well, so, quite apart from escalating costs in China, why not put a premium on the rerun? It's a business, I'm afraid. I don't disagree with you but do they need caviar, lobster and Dom Perignon ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Y Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 I don't disagree with you but do they need caviar, lobster and Dom Perignon ! Oh yeah; the car park is full of Bentleys and Beemers when I visit. Please do get real and stop the jibes about price (it's getting very boring); it's not a business full of fat cats, just a lot of hard-working people who share a love of the hobby and who do read these pages. All those manufacturers and retailers who employ staff will soon have to make contributions to Workplace Pensions; would you rather they didn't so you can have lower prices? Yawn. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJM Dave Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 Indeed the de-facto Bachmann SRP = published SRP - 15% since most of the on-line dealers at least apply the 15% discount which Bachmann apparently allow for the initial release period. No doubt there are shops that do not apply this discount but I'm not sure why people would pay the full SRP when it is so easy to find shops that knock 15% off.On the model, it is beautiful, despite the excellence of the Rapido APT-E I think this remains the nicest passenger tain model offered to UK OO modellers outside of very expensive high end brass efforts. Expensive? Yes, but its a quality product. Whether it is worth the price is a personal judgement decision based on the perceived value of the item. To be honest it is more than I'd pay but I also understand it is a good enough model that others will consider that it is worth the cost. As I said at the time, the BP set the standard for British RTR OO and N gauge trains. So far it's still way out there at the top of the tree IMHO and I cannot see anyone coming close to emulating the quality of these sets in any gauge, anytime soon. Whether the British modelling public can justify its new cost (arguably still a bargain considering all else in the box) or not is a different matter, but the model's quality can never be in question. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Ian Hargrave Posted May 27, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 27, 2016 I don't disagree with you but do they need caviar, lobster and Dom Perignon ! Please don't be ridiculous.You don't want to pay.....walk away. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Removed a/c Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 I wasn't implying that they do, it was tongue in cheek. Pricing is a huge concern for many people and not just in the hobby sector. Sorry if anyone was offended. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium phil-b259 Posted May 27, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 27, 2016 I wasn't implying that they do, it was tongue in cheek. Pricing is a huge concern for many people and not just in the hobby sector. Sorry if anyone was offended. Its more the fact that we have done this subject to death many, many, many times over what feels like hundreds of threads. Having decided to not buy the first release of the Midland Pullman and subsequently been seduced into getting this one I am not disappointed with what I got for my money - (even if strictly speaking I don't need the 'extras' and would have been quite happy with a plain vanilla release like the first one with a slightly lower price). 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Clearwater Posted May 27, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 27, 2016 I wasn't buying model railway stuff when the Blue Pullman came out and they'd all been sold by the point I realised I'd quite like one thank you very much. Therefore, I was delighted was it reappeared in Bachmann's catalogue and in true FOMO style placed my order. It arrived today. Not read the book yet, but the menu is a delight. Eggs and bacon or sausage and chips for tea! Class. A period piece with long forgotten beers on the menu and, hard to believe these days, listings of cigarettes.... 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted May 27, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 27, 2016 I wasn't buying model railway stuff when the Blue Pullman came out and they'd all been sold by the point I realised I'd quite like one thank you very much. Therefore, I was delighted was it reappeared in Bachmann's catalogue and in true FOMO style placed my order. It arrived today. Not read the book yet, but the menu is a delight. Eggs and bacon or sausage and chips for tea! Class. A period piece with long forgotten beers on the menu and, hard to believe these days, listings of cigarettes.... The best thing about a Blue Pullman high tea - on the Western ones at any rate - were the steak sandwiches, delectable. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Clearwater Posted May 28, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 28, 2016 The best thing about a Blue Pullman high tea - on the Western ones at any rate - were the steak sandwiches, delectable.[/quote Were they extra? 'Grilled steak' was on the Midland menu but was at a supplement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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