Rugd1022 Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 Mike beat me to it Neil (cheers SM!) but they are definitely Swindon Stock Shed and The Factory at 81A. It is entirely possible they were taken by the same person on the same day, as it's only 77 miles from Padd to Swindon.... On the subject of Hydraulics in general, I've just been having a 'tidy up' of my railway books and mags, which took longer than expected when I started thumbing through every single Hydraulic publication I can currently get my grubby mitts on, there are several more stashed away elsewhere but perusing all of the 'Heyday Of', 'Power Of' series, the various Strathwood books, the mighty Bradford Barton library, the Norman Preedy, John Vaughan and Roger Geach stuff amongst many others, it struck me what a rich catalogue of images we now have to keep our eyeballs entertained, not to mention the fantastic memories they rekindle in an instant. In the grand scheme of things the Hydraulic era lasted less than two decades yet the coverage is pretty damned good. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark alden Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 Some more for the weekend. The first D1056 in September 1975 backing onto her train at Plymouth North Road- one where the new scanner behaved itself! D1056 Plymouth September 1975.jpg Next D1003 at Newton Abbott on 22nd August 1969 with a motorail service. D1003 Newton Abbott Padd-Penz motorail 220869.jpg The early withdrawals from the class 22 fleet, being scrapped in 1969 are rarely photographed. I was pleased to win these photos recently. 6351 at (edit) Swindon stock shed in 1969 with clear evidence of a recent prang, in the company of Hymek D7010. 6351 Old Oak Common.jpg 6343 at Old Oak again in 1969. 6343 Old Oak Common.jpg Neil D7010 went Blue with Small Yellow and White windows from 21/12/66 so this picture of D6351 is pre the suggested 1969 date. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark alden Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 If you made an assumption that both locos were there for Works attention then the only time both 7010 & 6351 were together inside Swindon Works is between 20.12.62 and 07.01.63 (6351 20/12/62-14/0163 & 7010 18/12/62 - 07/01/63). In fact, using the same theory as both locos are awaiting entry to Swindon you could actually date it almost as 17 or 18/12/62. If you could see 7010's front end you could date it as it was this visit 7010 had its Yellow end added. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Downendian Posted August 15, 2015 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted August 15, 2015 Many thanks for all the information this evening gents. Very helpful indeed. Neil Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonny777 Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 I'm guessing you caught the 07.30 from Paddington? On the 18th 1015 worked West on 1B15 08.30 Padd - Plymouth, and went back on the 16.10 Penzance - Paddington (1A09) at 18.25 from Plymouth. D1009 came into Plymouth on 4A13 15.22 Penzance - Paddington Perishables. 1036 hauled withdrawn 1028 & 1051 from Laira to Swindon, 1048 worked the 07.40 Leeds to Penzance from Plymouth at 14.23 and 1058 came in from Cornwall on 1M74 13.55 Penzance to Birmingham. Don't suppose you know what came into Plymouth on 1V71, on 1A09 from Penzance to Plymouth and from Plymouth on 1M74 do you please? You also mention 1033 but that had been withdrawn by then? Don't have any info for 1013 tho, Can you help with that please? Thanks Hello Mark, I'm afraid that I did not catch the 0730 even though I joined my train at Reading, because I would have waited for a day return ticket to be valid. The train I did catch arrived at Reading behind 50029 but after proceeding about 20 yards down the platform, we stopped and started a few times and after a lengthy spell of shouting and banging, we eventually left for Plymouth behind 47554. One thing that confuses me about D1015 is if you look at my original post on this subject (no. 931 I think) you will see my first photo was of D1015 on an eastbound stone train at Westbury. This loco then appeared at Plymouth on a down service about the same time as D1048, but my notes are rubbish with precise times of day. If D1015 worked the 0830 to Plymouth it must have somehow been detached at Westbury in order to perform freight duties for an unfathomable reason. The other strange thing is that looking at the cab dents on D1015 it appears to have turned to face the opposite direction before backing onto my train home. I can't comment on D1033 because I only tended to write the numbers down. Presumably I had misread it? I have no idea of individual workings I'm afraid, but D1013 is listed before D1058 so must have departed around 1500. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonny777 Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 Been scanning a lot this weekend - not getting on too well with the new scanner to be honest, its colour correction is quite naff, and even feeding it "perfect" slides it still does badly. The software that comes with it is none too good, and I still can't get the excellent vuescan software to speak to the scanner. Neil I have been wondering about this, and thought that if your computer recognises the scanner is connected then Vuescan ought to as well. Have you trashed all the Vuescan system files, especially any preference folders? It maybe that your old scanner has left some id on your computer and the software is still looking for that, but cant find it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Downendian Posted August 21, 2015 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted August 21, 2015 (edited) Thanks Jonny - I'll look further into it, but I still think the scanner itself is the problem as the software shouldn't be needed with excellent starting slides.It is needed when the slide is faded or underexposed -see below. Here's one of the problem slides, D1001 at some point in 1962, OK slightly out of focus but captures an early Western well. Colour balance not too good because slide was faded - I had a play with the Mac software and although it looks slightly surreal I was pleased with the background! Anyone know where this is? original slide, slightly manipulated surreal D1001 Edited August 21, 2015 by Downendian 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted August 21, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 21, 2015 Thanks Jonny - I'll look further into it, but I still think the scanner itself is the problem as the software shouldn't be needed with excellent starting slides.It is needed when the slide is faded or underexposed -see below. Here's one of the problem slides, D1001 at some point in 1962, OK slightly out of focus but captures an early Western well. Colour balance not too good because slide was faded - I had a play with the Mac software and although it looks slightly surreal I was pleased with the background! Anyone know where this is? I hope you don't mind but I had a little "play" with the image. Sorry, but I've no idea where it is. David 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Downendian Posted August 22, 2015 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted August 22, 2015 (edited) Good morning, some recent acquisitions First, for some reason there's not much demand for preserved hydraulics in service. I got this one rather cheap. 832 Onslaught West of Newton Abbott in august 1969 Secondly a brace of 1960s Westerns at Cholsey, date unknown D1020 Western Hero Neil Edited August 22, 2015 by Downendian 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold stovepipe Posted August 22, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 22, 2015 I particularly like the first one, I've not seen many photos taken facing this way. Technically it's south of Newton Abbot but I know what you mean! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium HillsideDepot Posted August 22, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 22, 2015 Another great set, but I especially like the signal next to D1020. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugd1022 Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 Cracking shots as usual Neil! I'd wager the D1020 shot is the Summer of '64, and D1031 is standing in for a Blue Pullman with the old 'Wells Fargo' set. Before reading your caption for the 832 at Aller shot I thought it was 821 running light from Laira to Didcot in May '73 on its way to being preserved at the GWS, this was the very last run of a Warship on the mainline in BR days. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Downendian Posted August 22, 2015 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted August 22, 2015 (edited) Hi Nidge Thanks for the info - re the '"Wells Fargo" BP replacement set - just noticed one of your posts on this subject from five years ago http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/13135-blue-pullman-replacements/?p=117282again this was D1031, I wonder if this was the up service, same day? I did think the same as you when I saw the slide of 832 near Aller junction, there's always the possibility the date is wrong - I've seen a shot of her on her last BR sortie somewhere edit : ah it was 821. Neil Edited August 22, 2015 by Downendian 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold stovepipe Posted August 22, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 22, 2015 Here's another shot of a BP stand-in on 1B15, this time with D834. https://www.flickr.com/photos/64518788@N05/10183448783/ Re the shot of D832 at Aller - it doesn't appear to have any OHLW signs by each of the doors, and a number at one end only. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold stovepipe Posted August 22, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 22, 2015 There are some really nice colour shots of hydraulics (and others) from July 1966 on this German website. This may have been posted before, so apologies if so. http://www.bundesbahnzeit.de/page.php?id=2006-08-21_British_Rail_1966 The shot of D6328 is interesting for not having headcode boxes at such a late date. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugd1022 Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 Hi Nidge Thanks for the info - re the '"Wells Fargo" BP replacement set - just noticed one of your posts on this subject from five years ago http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/13135-blue-pullman-replacements/?p=117282again this was D1031, I wonder if this was the up service, same day? I did think the same as you when I saw the slide of 832 near Aller junction, there's always the possibility the date is wrong - I've seen a shot of her on her last BR sortie somewhere edit : ah it was 821. Neil Five years ago.... blimey, I'd forgotten all about that Neil! Just checked the Bradford Barton Warships album which has a shot of 821 at Taunton en route to Didcot on 24th May '73, it still has its numbers at both ends so your shot is definitely not 821. Checking 'The Book Of The Warships', 832 was released off Swindon in that later version of BFYE in November '70 so the date of your slide could be wrong. Is it definitely 832 mate...? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted August 22, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 22, 2015 D1031 Western Rifleman on a lovely rake of ancient Pullmans D1031 Cholsey 1960s.jpg Is that a postcard Neil?, I ask as I've got the same pic with the message and address bits printed on the back. Mike. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Downendian Posted August 22, 2015 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted August 22, 2015 Hi Mike No it was sold as an original print and not postcard - I thought it was an original with copyright - perhaps I'll take it down just in case. Neil Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Downendian Posted August 22, 2015 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted August 22, 2015 Five years ago.... blimey, I'd forgotten all about that Neil! Just checked the Bradford Barton Warships album which has a shot of 821 at Taunton en route to Didcot on 24th May '73, it still has its numbers at both ends so your shot is definitely not 821. Checking 'The Book Of The Warships', 832 was released off Swindon in that later version of BFYE in November '70 so the date of your slide could be wrong. Is it definitely 832 mate...? Will take a closer look Nidge - unusual as just one number - and date definitely wrong if it's 832. Neil 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold stovepipe Posted August 22, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 22, 2015 It has NBL scavenger fan covers does it not? That doesn't discount D832 of course. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Downendian Posted August 22, 2015 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted August 22, 2015 Just checked it looks like 832 onslaught which of course 832 had class 43 scavenger grilles as you say Stovepipe. It does appear to have Swindon pattern marker lights too, so a class 42 and 832 the only one like this. Will need to dig for more in service photos of 832 - didn't twig that she had numbers at just one end. Neil 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugd1022 Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 Cheers Neil - first pic I've ever seen of it with the number at one end only Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold stovepipe Posted August 22, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 22, 2015 (edited) Are those signals in the distance in the up direction colour lights? If so, I wonder when they were installed? Edit: Answering my own question - sometime after 15/08/1969, if the date is to be believed. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/35mm-Railway-Negative-Print-D6334-ON-FREIGHT-at-NEWTON-ABBOT-COPYRIGHT-/331587499823?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item4d3427b72f&nma=true&si=voASjDZa27izhevjQXY1dZNlC84%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557 Edited August 22, 2015 by stovepipe Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted August 22, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 22, 2015 Good morning, some recent acquisitions Secondly a brace of 1960s Westerns at Cholsey, date unknown D1020 Western Hero [attachment=610622:D1020 Cholsey 1960s.jpg Neil Sorry but you have been misinformed - that is not Cholsey but is in fact Moreton Cutting with the train on the Down Main Line (thus matching the headcode in terms of direction if nothing else). I obviously can't positively date it but I can be positive that it was taken prior to 8/9 May 1965 because that was the weekend when the signal visible on the left was taken out of use. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Downendian Posted August 22, 2015 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted August 22, 2015 Thanks Mike - a veritable mine of information as always. Neil Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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