well filled baps The Sheep Chronicles. The adventures of a Sheep, the Works Forecat and the Works Apprentice, George.

[NHY 581]

4 hours ago, St Enodoc said:

Sorry to be a party pooper but the thatched building doesn't seem to fit in, to my eyes.

 

 

Mmmm......interesting. To me, that building is pretty much central to the whole layout, bridging the old and the developing new............

 

Mmmmm

 

 

[RodneyS]

The thatched cottage does look a bit lonely.

What would it look like if you took out the half timbered shop, moved the shed up to the warehouse and then put the shop near the cottage?

That would keep the habitable buildings together.

Rodney

[NHY 581]

5 minutes ago, RodneyS said:

The thatched cottage does look a bit lonely.

What would it look like if you took out the half timbered shop, moved the shed up to the warehouse and then put the shop near the cottage?

That would keep the habitable buildings together.

Rodney

 

Hi Rodders, 

 

That wouldn't work. I saw the little shop as more of an office which was quietly getting built around, the half timbering contrasting with the other buildings. The timber shed perhaps being part of the same enterprise. 

 

In my mind, this is an as yet undeveloped back water so the mish mash of building styles is simply a by product of this lack of development......

 

Rob

 

 

[NHY 581]

A panorama.....

 

 

Rob

 

 

[Winslow Boy]

I can see what your trying to achieve Rob but I also think the cottage is so different from any of the other buildings it really does tend to stand out. Its central location also draws you eye straight to it. I wonder if making it more run down/shabby - like someone's doesn't want to move but doesn't have the funds to keep it pukka. One to ponder I think.

[RodneyS]

Having looked at your panorama and the high level overall view on the previous page I think you are right about the shop.

The thatch on the cottage is very effective so it would be a shame not to use it.

I'm sure it will fit in once you have worked your sheep magic on it.

 

The panoramic photos work well on the new wide screen format.

Rodney

 

 

[NHY 581]

35 minutes ago, RodneyS said:

 

The panoramic photos work well on the new wide screen format.

Rodney

 

 

 

 

That's the SuperPanoTechnoSheepVision. 

 

 

[Schooner]

3 hours ago, NHY 581 said:

To me, that building is pretty much central to the whole layout, bridging the old and the developing new

It has a purpose and a story; with your skills it will convince :)

 

Exciting stuff!

[Winslow Boy]

1 hour ago, NHY 581 said:

 

 

That's the SuperPanoTechnoSheepVision. 

 

 

 

Is it available to hire and will it be appearing in a cinema near me oh sheepy one.

[Ighten]

I think the thatch just needs to move right so the warehouse industrial in the foreground just hides an inch or so.. as if the poor thatch refused to move, so they built right in front..

[mullie]

2 hours ago, Ighten said:

I think the thatch just needs to move right so the warehouse industrial in the foreground just hides an inch or so.. as if the poor thatch refused to move, so they built right in front..

We have an old thatched cottage that is overpowered by the very large secondary school behind it in Weymouth so anything is possible.

 

Martyn

[NHY 581]

Another bit of inspiration came from Brinkers of the parish and he brought Hallsands to my attention......

 

Here's a pre 1917 painting of Hallsand. 

 

 

And a few photos.......

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

These started me thinking about a mixture of buildings producing a suitable back drop to a small quayside railway. Rest assured,  I've no intention of providing a cliff backdrop or pebble beach. 

 

 

 

 

[Fishplate]

But ominous, the caption on the bottom right of the last picture . . . .

[Siberian Snooper]

16 minutes ago, Fishplate said:

But ominous, the caption on the bottom right of the last picture . . . .

 

Blame the Admiralty for that, they had the shingle away to build the Steam Yard at Devonport.

 

 

[Stubby47]

24 minutes ago, NHY 581 said:

Rest assured,  I've no intention of providing a cliff backdrop or pebble beach. 

 

Surely creating a pebble beach is just like ballasting, but without the faff of rails or sleepers?

 

 

[NHY 581]

1 hour ago, Fishplate said:

But ominous, the caption on the bottom right of the last picture . . . .

 

 

See below.........gulp....

 

 

1 hour ago, Siberian Snooper said:

 

Blame the Admiralty for that, they had the shingle away to build the Steam Yard at Devonport.

 

 

 

 

Indeed.......

 

https://maritimearchaeologytrust.org/3407-2/

 

 

Rob 

 

 

Edited May 9, 2023 by NHY 581

[NHY 581]

13 minutes ago, Stubby47 said:

 

Surely creating a pebble beach is just like ballasting, but without the faff of rails or sleepers?

 

 

 

Not wrong but if you've not got the space to do a proper job then it's best not to bother. 

 

I want a more Bude Wharf vibe........but no big boats.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Rob. 

 

 

[AdeMoore]

Hallsands is interesting. Stayed in the former hotel seen here. Big white building as below, a great backstory to that I bought the book on it. Never saw it as a railway related inspirational place. See it now though and the Bude canal vibe I get.

 

 

One of the places in my layout inspiration folder! Good shout that Rob.

An example I had saved below.

 

 

A very atmospheric picture from a misty Bude  quay branch, 18th July 1963 and we see N class No. 31844 propelling a brake van along the loop towards the wharf. In the background the gas-woks is visible, a time before natural gas was available and towns would have to generate their own from the burning of coal. T Wright

 

Like I said looking forward to this new layout taking shape.

[Schooner]

5 hours ago, NHY 581 said:

One of my all-time fave photos :) And dear old Ceres was a slip of thing at 44 ton, so I'm assuming that's tacit confirmation you'll be modelling her...! Built in 1811 she had 125 years in trade, becoming something of a celebrity as the oldest working vessel in the country, and suspected oldest in the world, till late on 14th November 1936 she gave up in sight of home.

 

The Ketch Ceres 1811 - 1936, by Cicely Fox Smith

A century and a quarter, full of chance and change had passed
Since they built her, down in Devon, where they mostly build to last,
And sent her out to earn her keep at risk of wave and war,
And dodge the nimble privateer along the Biscay shore.

 

And war went out and peace came in and time it went and came,
And brought new changes every year but her it left the same;
The privateers they vanished and the Indiamen likewise,
And the first steam-kettle trailed her smoke across the affronted skies.

 

The tea fleet and the wool fleet, in their turn they had their day;
She marked them in their beauty as she plied upon her way,
Their canvas piled like summer clouds, …… like summer clouds they passed,
But —she was built in Devon and they build 'em there to last.

 

She loaded nuts and oranges, she carried coal and props,
And bricks and hay and china-clay and barley-malt and hops;
She traded north to Derry and she traded south to Spain,
And east about to Wells and Lynn and back to Bude again.

 

She knew the rips and overfalls from London to the Lizard,
And once she nearly left her bones off Padstow in a blizzard,
But when winter fogs were thickest she could mostly smell her way
By the old familiar sea-marks into Bude or Watchett Bay.

 

And peace went out and war came in and forth she went once more
To dodge the nimble submarines along the English shore,
And war went out and peace came in and still she held together
Spite of floating mine and tin fish and the good old Channel weather.

 

She loaded salt and timber and she carried slate from Wales,
Cement and corn and cattle-cake and paving-stones and nails;
She worked her way to Liverpool and down the coast for cloam,
Across the way to Swansea Bay and then with slag for home.

 

But a time it comes to ships and men when sailing days are past,
Even such as hail from Devon, where they mostly build to last,
And her seams began to open and the Severn tide came through,
And the water kept on gaining spite of all that they could do.

 

They did their best to beach her but they couldn't do no more,
And she foundered at the finish there in sight of Appledore;
And her bones'll never flicker blue on any 'longshore fire,
For she'll lie there and she'll moulder as an old ship might desire,
And hear the vessels passing by and dream about the past
And the great old times in Devon, where they built her once to last.

 

From the Western Morning News, Plymouth, Exeter, and Truro, UK, March 13,1937, p. 13.

 

Ceres enters Bude...

...stays a while...

 

...and leaves.

 

5 hours ago, NHY 581 said:

...but no big boats.

G'waaaan...

:)

Edited May 9, 2023 by Schooner

[2ManySpams]

On 09/05/2023 at 03:35, St Enodoc said:

Sorry to be a party pooper but the thatched building doesn't seem to fit in, to my eyes.

 

Interesting, I was about to write the very same thing.

[NHY 581]

Morning all, 

 

Mmmm........with so many of you mentioning the thatched pub, I'm starting to question this myself. 

 

It's from Bachmann's Pendon range and is simply stunning but if it jars, it jars. Sadly though, for me, it's pivotal to the layout. I removed it when John mentioned it yesterday and frankly, the layout looked awful without it and wasn't the look and feel I want. 

 

More thought is perhaps needed. 

 

In the interim though, I have plenty more ideas to explore........

 

Rob. 

 

 

[Stubby47]

More thatched stuff !!

 

(Cos we all know, that from a distance, thatch looks like

 

 

 

 

 

 

wool...)

 

 

 

Edited May 10, 2023 by Stubby47

[Winslow Boy]

1 hour ago, NHY 581 said:

Morning all, 

 

Mmmm........with so many of you mentioning the thatched pub, I'm starting to question this myself. 

 

It's from Bachmann's Pendon range and is simply stunning but if it jars, it jars. Sadly though, for me, it's pivotal to the layout. I removed it when John mentioned it yesterday and frankly, the layout looked awful without it and wasn't the look and feel I want. 

 

More thought is perhaps needed. 

 

In the interim though, I have plenty more ideas to explore........

 

Rob. 

 

 

 

That was wot I said at the end o sheepie bloke - more pondering needed. I don't know this herding sheep is hard work. p.

Edited May 10, 2023 by Winslow Boy

[Tortuga]

I don’t think the building jars; it could be the oldest building on the wharf, with the others coming later.

 

I’m not a fan of its yellow colour though. Might it fit in better if it was whitewashed like the buildings on the left?

[Winslow Boy]

 Having had another look from the front I wonder if perhaps the issue is that its long and low when compared to the rest of the buildings and doesn't therefore have a 'commanding presence'.