well filled baps The Sheep Chronicles. The adventures of a Sheep, the Works Forecat and the Works Apprentice, George.

[NHY 581]

Clue.......

[Schooner]

Waiting...

...pati-sheep-ly

 

(Saw her and thought of ewe, Guess-the-loco just an added bonus!)

Edited November 23, 2022 by Schooner
PS. 15XX

[Winslow Boy]

Di.

[MrWolf]

I'm going to punt for something obscure: Cardiff Railway Kitson 0-6-2, Number 11.

 

 

[The Stationmaster]

It's not one of those r-t-r imitation Taff Vale things is it?😮

[mozzer models]

4 hours ago, NHY 581 said:

It's a Welsh engine..........

is it the Number of the Devil

 

[Gilbert]

6 hours ago, mozzer models said:

is it the Number of the Devil

 

Easy as Pi(e)?

[NHY 581]

Morning all. 

 

Some very exotic suggestions there. 

 

Louis, the 15xx is a bit modern, nice but......

 

Brian, the thought had crossed my mind but not yet. However, do you do the plates ? 

 

Mike, again, nice but no not as of yet but those Electrotren Saddle tanks are quirky. 

 

Rob, very nice idea........mmmmmm

 

 

But it is an 0.6.2 though....

 

Rob. 

[NHY 581]

 

 

TaaDaa !!

 

 

 

Withdrawn in 1954 I believe but a Swansea engine. 

 

 

[Stubby47]

I still think it's a 9F.

[Captain Kernow]

1 hour ago, NHY 581 said:

 

You are a dark horse sheep, Mr G.

 

Well, I've just one thing to say to you - Nantybwch!

 

 

[Oldddudders]

37 minutes ago, Captain Kernow said:

 Nantybwch!

They do tablets for that.

[NHY 581]

1 hour ago, Captain Kernow said:

You are a dark horse sheep, Mr G.

 

Well, I've just one thing to say to you - Nantybwch!

 

 

 

 

[woodenhead]

13 hours ago, The Stationmaster said:

It's not one of those r-t-r imitation Taff Vale things is it?😮

Naff Value 😄

[mullie]

9 hours ago, NHY 581 said:

 

 

TaaDaa !!

 

 

 

Withdrawn in 1954 I believe but a Swansea engine. 

 

 

Does it have a smiley face?

[NHY 581]

4 minutes ago, mullie said:

Does it have a smiley face?

 

It's very shy...

[NHY 581]

Evening all, 

 

Normally, I just plonk a few things down on a product of Sweden with little thought about the backstory ( I'm not clever enough for that ! ) and take it from there. 

 

But, with no real construction likely anytime soon, I wanted to maintain a bit of interest. So, here are my thoughts. 

 

 

Chapter 6.

 

Lambsdown. 

 

The real Sheppey Light Railway operated under the Light Railways Act 1896 and opened in 1901. It's terminus was Leysdown. 

 

I think you can see where this is going..........

 

The Isle of Sheepy Light Railway opened in 1897 as an independent company. The terminus was at Lambsdown and served a small village which the SLR company hoped to develop as a resort. Intermediate stations were at Sheepness East, Sheepminster on Sea, Bleatdown Halt Bleatchurch, Woolly Road Halt. The junction station with the SE&CR was at Bleatborough. 

The development of the island never materialised and the line closed completely in 1950.

 

I've therefore spent sometime working out potential periods in which I'd like to model Lambsdown. 

 

Here are some thoughts which in some cases are even based on fact........no, really. 

 

I've narrowed things down to ; 

 

Pre WW1/ Post WW1/Early Southern SE&CR BLT. Recently taken over from the  independent light railway. 

 

Or

 

1950s ex SE&CR British Railways BLT. 

 

Motive power/stock is in place for both. 

 

A 1950s setting would allow buildings etc to be finished in pre WW2 Southern livery which in turn would give the opportunity to backdate to 1930s Southern days as well as the 1950s..

 

But, my main inclination is as follows. 

 

A pre WW1 setting would allow some latitude in livery of the buildings as there seems no documented colour scheme for the SE&CR.  This paint scheme could feasibly  extend into the 1920s as well as pre war full monty Wainwright green,  taking in the wartime/post WW1 SE&CR Green and Grey loco livery as well as early Southern days ( pre Southern building repaint )  though obviously this excludes the possibility of a 1950s scenario......

 

There's a few things that narrow it all down even further. 

 

This type of time frame dictates the condition of the structures in terms of their finish etc. with an earliest of only some 15yrs for them to have deteriorated, albeit in coastal sea air.  Therefore a light touch on the weathering if I go for a SE&CR layout ( most likely ) 

 

The time frames could be quite narrow, using the small locos used on the branch as a measuring device. 

 

Pre WW1, the  SE&CR Terrier, no. 751 , bought by the SE&CR specifically for the line, disappeared in 1909 to receive a new SE&CR Wainwright boiler.

 

It only made intermittent visits after this. P class no 27 took over in 1910, railmotors filling in the gap.

 

 

The H and C classes really are extras.

 

 

They have bit parts really but a C can cover the occasional goods working.

 

 

The H is truly over kill for the passenger workings at this time. A second P class, no 178 can augment no.27. 

 

Within the period of WW1 and up to the grouping,  the time frame is again dictated by the available ( to me)  P classes. 

No.27 was repainted from Wainwright livery into ROD green before being shipped to France in April 1915. 

178 was repainted into the initial SE&CR wartime livery of green c1917 and was still as so in 1919. 

So nos 27 and 178 in Wainwright livery are good up to 1915. 

754 was in wartime grey from roughly 1917 until at least 1924. 

 

 

A325 was repainted into Southern lined green in July 1924, one of the first of the class so treated. 754 received  lined green sometime after that and became A754 but was renumbered to A557 in December 1925. 

 

Coaching stock wise,  the six wheelers were used on the Sheppey Light until 1924 when they were replaced by converted railmotors rebuilt as articulated sets. 

 

So it is possible to run 754 in grey alongside A325 in Southern green, with six wheeled passenger stock but it really has to be no later that late1924. 

 

Phew ! 

 

It's a good job I don't take this train set stuff seriously......

 

Rob. 

Edited November 23, 2022 by NHY 581
Piccies added

[Gilbert]

Don't mention weathering. You mentioned it once, but I think  you got away with it.....

[MrWolf]

That's a much more convincing raison d'etre than many layouts and I haven't based my own layout on anything stronger. The proposed line was never built!

 

Plenty of options for you there too.

[Limpley Stoker]

I'm sure the ewes will be admiring all those Ramsbottom valves!

 

[Tortuga]

1 hour ago, NHY 581 said:

A pre WW1 setting would allow some latitude in livery of the buildings as there seems no documented colour scheme for the SE&CR.  This paint scheme could feasibly  extend into the 1920s as well as pre war full monty Wainwright green,  taking in the wartime/post WW1 SE&CR Green and Grey loco livery as well as early Southern days ( pre Southern building repaint )  though obviously this excludes the possibility of a 1950s scenario......

I don’t see why. Certainly the signal box at Alsop-en-le-Dale on the Buxton to Ashbourne line was in LNWR colours in the early sixties (and I assume remained so until closure) meaning it wasn’t repainted into LMS nor LM colours.

 

I assume the Isle of Sheepy is on the fringes of the Southern territory? Perhaps the work order for repainting in Company colours never made it off the mainland, then what with the Great Depression, WWII and Nationalisation, everybody (in Company Management) assumed that somebody had done what nobody actually had.

[mozzer models]

14 hours ago, NHY 581 said:

Morning all. 

 

 

 

Brian, the thought had crossed my mind but not yet. However, do you do the plates ? 

 

.

 

Rob. 

Yes lots in stock of 666 and 667

[NHY 581]

9 hours ago, mozzer models said:

Yes lots in stock of 666 and 667

 

Morning Brian. 

 

I could be interested in a set. I'll have a look at what is involved. I know a conversion to either in GWR/ W.R days will require safety valve cover, new chimney and dome but I need to work out what else is involved..

 

This is 667 at an u/k location. There's various additional handrails and GWR lampirons etc but I think a reasonable likeness is achievable without major surgery. 

In fact, I think James Hilton has had a stab at one already. 

 

 

(If anyone is able to ID the photographer then I'm only too happy to credit accordingly) 

 

Rob. 

[NHY 581]

11 hours ago, Tortuga said:

I don’t see why. Certainly the signal box at Alsop-en-le-Dale on the Buxton to Ashbourne line was in LNWR colours in the early sixties (and I assume remained so until closure) meaning it wasn’t repainted into LMS nor LM colours.

 

I assume the Isle of Sheepy is on the fringes of the Southern territory? Perhaps the work order for repainting in Company colours never made it off the mainland, then what with the Great Depression, WWII and Nationalisation, everybody (in Company Management) assumed that somebody had done what nobody actually had.

 

 

Morning Torters. 

 

I'm quite settled on the idea of the original Light Railway scheme lasting until the early twenties.  The SE&CR were apparently not the best at keeping their stations in tip top condition so on taking over the SLR in 1908, they had a quick look and obviously  thought that it would do for now. Then, as you rightly say, WW1 came along and then we were stumbling into the grouping. 

I think to try to run such a colour scheme into the 50s is pushing it a bit. 50+ years exposed to sea air  with no change in the finish is expecting a bit much. 

 

No, I'm happy to cut of in early SR days. 

 

Rob. 

[Captain Kernow]

13 hours ago, Limpley Stoker said:

I'm sure the ewes will be admiring all those Ramsbottom valves!

Really!

 

Avert your eyes from such filth, this is a Family Show!