RMweb Gold Captain Kernow Posted January 29 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 29 1 hour ago, NHY 581 said: Remember, A Pannier's for life, not just for one layout. Indeed, wiser words never uttered. All Hail the Supreme Pannier! 1 1 4 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winslow Boy Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 15 minutes ago, Captain Kernow said: Indeed, wiser words never uttered. All Hail the Supreme Pannier! I believe there's an ointment for that. Does it still hurt when you cough. 1 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWolf Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 36 minutes ago, Captain Kernow said: Indeed, wiser words never uttered. All Hail the Supreme Pannier! Tomorrow the world! Etc.... 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Re6/6 Posted January 29 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 29 1 hour ago, Captain Kernow said: Indeed, wiser words never uttered. All Hail the Supreme Pannier! Humbug! 1 2 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Geep7 Posted January 29 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 29 This axle splitting issue is rather reminiscent of the gear cracking issue that seems so endemic with models fitted with nylon gears, particularly in N or HO. It generally caused by the axle or gear being force fitted to an axle or stub that is slightly too big for the hole in the axle.... One solution to stop this happening, possibly, is to slightly open out the end of the axles, and then glue the wheels back on. I know generally with the gear issue, it's been preferable to replace with brass gears, but not a solution here for the axle problem..... It's got me thinking now whether this could affect any other Dapol models (eg. the Class 73?). Must take a look. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold NHY 581 Posted January 29 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted January 29 25 minutes ago, Geep7 said: This axle splitting issue is rather reminiscent of the gear cracking issue that seems so endemic with models fitted with nylon gears, particularly in N or HO. It generally caused by the axle or gear being force fitted to an axle or stub that is slightly too big for the hole in the axle.... One solution to stop this happening, possibly, is to slightly open out the end of the axles, and then glue the wheels back on. I know generally with the gear issue, it's been preferable to replace with brass gears, but not a solution here for the axle problem..... It's got me thinking now whether this could affect any other Dapol models (eg. the Class 73?). Must take a look. Hi Chris, Pretty certain this plastic axle arrangement is unique, in terms of Dapol, to the Sentinels due to the pick up arrangements. The class 73 etc have conventional axles/gears. Rob 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Geep7 Posted January 29 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 29 9 minutes ago, NHY 581 said: Hi Chris, Pretty certain this plastic axle arrangement is unique, in terms of Dapol, to the Sentinels due to the pick up arrangements. The class 73 etc have conventional axles/gears. Rob Thanks Rob, just taken a look during my lunch break, and you're right. Conventional axles/gears... just the daft axle bearing pickups, which I must do something about at some point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWolf Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 It sounds like the old Mainline and early Bachmann problem of the wheels being an interference fit in the plastic, which is fine when new, but the grade of plastic isn't brilliant, shrinking and becoming brittle after a few years, hence the splitting. Fixable, but can put the F into Frustrating. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishplate Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 43 minutes ago, Geep7 said: It's got me thinking now whether this could affect any other Dapol models (eg. the Class 73?). Must take a look. Panic. . . 14 minutes ago, NHY 581 said: The class 73 etc have conventional axles/gears. Panic ye not. 4 minutes ago, Geep7 said: Thanks Rob, just taken a look during my lunch break, and you're right. Panic ye not confirmed. Thanks chaps. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Captain Kernow Posted January 29 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 29 2 hours ago, Re6/6 said: Humbug! The Supreme Pannier is not amused! 11 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GMKAT7 Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 (edited) Good afternoon folks, With apologies to Mr Sheepbloke Rob for clogging up his thread but somebody did mention Panniers and the Supreme Pannier has been invoked :) Panniers on parade below: 2 x Hornby 8750ish, detailed by me some 20 years ago, BBP (before Bachmann purchased) 2 x Bachmann 8750s, renumbered (9653 & 9654) and lamped, awaiting crew and weathering. 1 x each of Bachmann 64xx and 94xx. The 94xx will be renumbered as 8432 (OXF) to match with 9653 and 9654 (both OXF locos). 1 x Rapido 15xx, to be weathered and crewed. 1 x Wills 94xx and 1 x Nu-Cast 54/64/74xx awaiting the 'round tuit'. I have a chassis donor for the 94xx but it needs a new leading wheelset. The 54xx has an etched brass chassis but this seems flimsy to me. I also have an Accurascale 7714 on order and an still toying with the idea of MR/Rapido 16xx, if I can overcome the bunker chasm (can't unsee it now). By way of contrition I do have other small & cute/less 'ugly' tank locos (see Rapido 15xx thread), such as SECR 327 (P) and 751 (Terrier) and 30096 (B4). Mind you, my 30064 (USA tank) gives 1509 a run for its money in the 'less glamorous' stakes. All run well (luckily) but only around my test track currently. Edit: Thanks to Captain Kernow for the 54xx chassis info. Cheers, Nigel. Edited January 29 by GMKAT7 Missing info (doh!) 13 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Captain Kernow Posted January 29 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 29 (edited) 13 minutes ago, GMKAT7 said: Good afternoon folks, With apologies to Mr Sheepbloke Rob for clogging up his thread but somebody did mention Panniers and the Supreme Pannier has been invoked :) Panniers on parade below: 2 x Hornby 8750ish, detailed by me some 20 years ago, BBP (before Bachmann purchased) 2 x Bachmann 8750s, renumbered (965 & 9654) and lamped, awaiting crew and weathering. 1 x each of Bachmann 64xx and 94xx. The 94xx will be renumbered as 8432 (OXF) to match with 9653 and 9654 (both OXF locos). 1 x Rapido 15xx, to be weathered and crewed. 1 x Wills 94xx and 1 x Nu-Cast 54/64/74xx awaiting the 'round tuit'. I have a chassis donor for the 94xx but it needs a new leading wheelset. The 54xx has an etched brass chassis but this seems flimsy to me. I also have an Accurascale 7714 on order and an still toying with the idea of MR/Rapido 16xx, if I can overcome the bunker chasm (can't unsee it now). By way of contrition I do have other small & cute/less 'ugly' tank locos (see Rapido 15xx thread), such as SECR 327 (P) and 751 (Terrier) and 30096 (B4). Mind you, my 30064 (USA tank) gives 1509 a run for its money in the 'less glamorous' stakes. All run well (luckily) but only around my test track currently. Cheers, Nigel. What a splendid sight! The Supreme Pannier most definitely approves! Re your 54XX, if it's the old etched chassis I'm thinking about, then I would agree, but there is the option of the High Level chassis (covers 54XX/64XX and 74XX), which is very good. Alternatively, if you can live with the slightly smaller wheels, the Bachmann 64XX chassis might serve - https://Bachmann-spares.co.uk/category/2-branchline-steam-parts/64xx-pannier-tank/chassis (or you might find someone who is happy to dispose of a chassis). Edited January 29 by Captain Kernow 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWolf Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 I can see that I need to go home and dig out the pannier collection. Not sure how many I have. The ideal number of course being the number you have already, plus one.* *From the Wolf-Spiers theorem of vintage motorcycles. 5 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
F-UnitMad Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 2 hours ago, Captain Kernow said: The Supreme Pannier is not amused! Oh I dunno, judging by his hose... 🤔🤭 1 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold NHY 581 Posted January 29 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted January 29 2 hours ago, GMKAT7 said: Good afternoon folks, With apologies to Mr Sheepbloke Rob for clogging up his thread but somebody did mention Panniers and the Supreme Pannier has been invoked :) Panniers on parade below: 2 x Hornby 8750ish, detailed by me some 20 years ago, BBP (before Bachmann purchased) 2 x Bachmann 8750s, renumbered (9653 & 9654) and lamped, awaiting crew and weathering. 1 x each of Bachmann 64xx and 94xx. The 94xx will be renumbered as 8432 (OXF) to match with 9653 and 9654 (both OXF locos). 1 x Rapido 15xx, to be weathered and crewed. 1 x Wills 94xx and 1 x Nu-Cast 54/64/74xx awaiting the 'round tuit'. I have a chassis donor for the 94xx but it needs a new leading wheelset. The 54xx has an etched brass chassis but this seems flimsy to me. I also have an Accurascale 7714 on order and an still toying with the idea of MR/Rapido 16xx, if I can overcome the bunker chasm (can't unsee it now). By way of contrition I do have other small & cute/less 'ugly' tank locos (see Rapido 15xx thread), such as SECR 327 (P) and 751 (Terrier) and 30096 (B4). Mind you, my 30064 (USA tank) gives 1509 a run for its money in the 'less glamorous' stakes. All run well (luckily) but only around my test track currently. Edit: Thanks to Captain Kernow for the 54xx chassis info. Cheers, Nigel. Panniertastic. 1 4 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold gwrrob Posted January 29 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 29 21 hours ago, 2ManySpams said: sent away to the south coast for being very, very naughty. That’s Eastbourne for you. 2 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GMKAT7 Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 Good evening folks, Thanks very much for the likes/comments. I have now corrected the backward leaning lamp on 9654. It's now standing up straight, although not as erect (ooh er) as the Supreme Pannier's hose :) Plates for re-numbering to be ordered from 247 Developments tomorrow, including giving 1509 some etched plates. Cheers, Nigel. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold gwrrob Posted January 29 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 29 48 minutes ago, GMKAT7 said: Plates for re-numbering to be ordered from 247 Developments tomorrow, including giving 1509 some etched plates. It scrubs up well with them.😉 12 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium New Haven Neil Posted January 29 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 29 Someone say Paneer? 16 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
F-UnitMad Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 1 minute ago, New Haven Neil said: Someone say Paneer? Only those who can't pronounce it properly.... 😁😁🤣🤣👍 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium New Haven Neil Posted January 29 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 29 2 minutes ago, F-UnitMad said: Only those who can't pronounce it properly.... 😁😁🤣🤣👍 Running joke - that you appear not to be aware of. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
F-UnitMad Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 Just now, New Haven Neil said: Running joke - that you appear not to be aware of. Ah. Quite possibly. 🤷♂️🤦♂️ 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wainwright1 Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 (edited) 37 minutes ago, New Haven Neil said: Someone say Paneer? Isn't that an Indian loco ? Sounds a bit cheesy. Edited January 29 by wainwright1 2 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium New Haven Neil Posted January 29 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 29 7 minutes ago, wainwright1 said: Isn't that an Indian loco ? Sounds a bit cheesy. They go off and get all dirty and smelly if you're not careful. 15 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post westerner Posted January 29 Popular Post Share Posted January 29 with all this talk of panniers ,I thought I'd add my two 20 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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