Donington Road Posted February 5, 2015 Share Posted February 5, 2015 Yes, Mick. but I'm NOT an engineer. As a scientist, brought up and raised on SI units, I should be quoting lengths in metres. To be honest, when it comes to woodwork and bricklaying, I'd just as soon quote good old feet and inches. Everyone of a certain age has a feel for Imperial, don't they. I mean, 6 inches or 15cm. Take your choice! Jeff The building industry is still quite quirky as you know. 8ft x 4ft sheets of ply come in millimetre thicknesses. Oh, and sausages are bought by the lb and priced in kilo's Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PeterBB Posted February 5, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 5, 2015 Well said, Bill! My philosophy exactly. My approach is that if you build it "properly" (not the " ""!!) then you only have to build it once and, hopefully, it'll serve its purpose. Of course, I took the same approach with KL and it was the devil's worst nightmare trying to dismantle it!! Jeff Jeff have had the same problem - it will take my weight plus but when it needed an alteration it was a devil to change so I left a bit behind and built in front of it. Peter 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Physicsman Posted February 6, 2015 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted February 6, 2015 Update for Andy's benefit........ Arrived at Jason's at 8pm. Coffee, looking at The Mill, magnificent curry at the Sharma. Jason has just pretended to be Father Christmas and plonked a bag full of Parkside kits in front of me. About to have more coffee and look at said kits. I anticipate there'll be some photos of my ongoing "efforts" tomorrow! Jeff 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Physicsman Posted February 6, 2015 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted February 6, 2015 Oh, btw - I've built 2 of the frames to fit into the garage door today. Couldn't post earlier because I had no internet access. Details when I get home, along with pics. Jeff 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Donw Posted February 7, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 7, 2015 These days you need to think of metric feet. Timber is sold in 300mm units so it either 2.4m or 2.7m not quite 8ft or not quite 9ft. Plasterboard comes in 2.4x1.2sheets but the Sterling board is in 8ftx4ft sheets so for a flat roof you cannot place the joists to suit both. Plain bonkers Don Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted February 7, 2015 Share Posted February 7, 2015 Good luck with the kits matey, count the fingers in, and count the fingers OUT, hahhahah 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donington Road Posted February 7, 2015 Share Posted February 7, 2015 These days you need to think of metric feet. Timber is sold in 300mm units so it either 2.4m or 2.7m not quite 8ft or not quite 9ft. Plasterboard comes in 2.4x1.2sheets but the Sterling board is in 8ftx4ft sheets so for a flat roof you cannot place the joists to suit both. Plain bonkers Don You would have thought that 40 plus years on from going metric we would be all sorted now. Why people cannot accept a far superior and easier measuring system is beyond me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted February 7, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 7, 2015 (edited) You would have thought that 40 plus years on from going metric we would be all sorted now. Why people cannot accept a far superior and easier measuring system is beyond me. There is nothing easier than 12 inches to a foot, 3 feet to a yard, 22 yards to a cricket wicket chain.......... 277.42 cubic inches to a gallon......... :nono: :nono: :nono: Edited February 7, 2015 by Clive Mortimore 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeHemmings Posted February 7, 2015 Share Posted February 7, 2015 I can visualise imperial measurements but not metric measurements, they have no fiscal meaning. Mike Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sp1 Posted February 7, 2015 Share Posted February 7, 2015 There is nothing easier than 12 inches to a foot, 3 feet to a yard, 22 yards to a cricket wicket chain.......... 277.42 cubic inches to a gallon......... :nono: :nono: :nono: 4mm to a foot... 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted February 7, 2015 Share Posted February 7, 2015 You would have thought that 40 plus years on from going metric we would be all sorted now. Why people cannot accept a far superior and easier measuring system is beyond me. I AGREE ENTIRLEY Mick, stick with good old BRITISH FEET AND INCHES, that's what I say. hahahahhah :sarcastichand: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Physicsman Posted February 7, 2015 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted February 7, 2015 Ok boys, enough of the measurement stuff! Back to railways! First batch of pics... Part of the goody bag that Jason assembled for me: The chosen"starter" - a 16t minerals: The body shell assembled: The tutor in action - making the same model in parallel: More shortly... Jeff 13 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Physicsman Posted February 7, 2015 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted February 7, 2015 (edited) The chassis with a few small mods: Adding lead to the base for stability purposes: The first wagon is almost completed. I've another 6 to get on with. We've also been to Frizinghall Models in Bradford - a variety of stuff acquired. Another curry tonight! More later. Jeff Edit: Lanarkshire buffers fitted after the old ones were removed and drilled out. Edited February 7, 2015 by Physicsman 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark axlecounter Posted February 7, 2015 Share Posted February 7, 2015 Hi Jeff hope all is ok. your making speedy work on the garage. It's comming along soon there will be sounds of locos working keep up the good work. How meany wagons are you building. What have you done to Jasons cap Jeff. have you kept it for insurance lol Mark 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Donw Posted February 7, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 7, 2015 You would have thought that 40 plus years on from going metric we would be all sorted now. Why people cannot accept a far superior and easier measuring system is beyond me. Metric has some advantages but actually it would have been better if we had had another finger on each hand a duodecimal numbering system is easily divisible by 2,3,4,6 much more convenient. Or one less as Octal easily converts to binary. I agree that having a common base throughout makes sense but decimal is not so convenient. Don Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted February 7, 2015 Share Posted February 7, 2015 Ok boys, enough of the measurement stuff! Back to railways! First batch of pics... Part of the goody bag that Jason assembled for me: DSCF2204a.jpg The chosen"starter" - a 16t minerals: DSCF2206a.jpg The body shell assembled: DSCF2208a.jpg The tutor in action - making the same model in parallel: DSCF2209a.jpg More shortly... Jeff Can I take it that the Grapes in Pic 1 are for when your rushed to A & E after slicing your finger with the Scalpel. hahah. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Physicsman Posted February 7, 2015 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted February 7, 2015 Can I take it that the Grapes in Pic 1 are for when your rushed to A & E after slicing your finger with the Scalpel. hahah. Oops - forgot they were there. I DID suffer a small injury earlier - see pic - but it was only a smaller pic..... Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Physicsman Posted February 7, 2015 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted February 7, 2015 The just-about-completed wagon. 3-links couplings will be added after a paint job. And I'm now onto my second wagon: Jeff 13 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mythocentric Posted February 7, 2015 Share Posted February 7, 2015 Aah! 16 ton minerals! Essential for ALL layouts! Two down and 198 to go! Go for it Jeff! Just keep an eye on Jason though in case he slips a couple of 21 ton hoppers in while you're in the groove bud! Regards Bill 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Physicsman Posted February 7, 2015 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted February 7, 2015 Two wagons now built. Ok, they need numbering, 3-links and a paint job, but it's a start. The wagons on Bacup with Jason's Austerity. The wheelbarrow man is so shocked at the state of the 16 tonners that he's been caught in the act of falling backwards!! Jeff 12 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robmcg Posted February 7, 2015 Share Posted February 7, 2015 Here are some 16 tonners to guide you, Jeff. Ignore the engine. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jock67B Posted February 7, 2015 Share Posted February 7, 2015 Evening Jeff, Laid low with a nasty bug, and off to daughters in Epping for the day tomorrow, but hope to catch up on Monday with what looks like an educational and fun visit - you simply can't help but admire Jason's workmanship and I'm particularly interested as I have several to produce! Keep at it, Kind regards, Jock. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Anotheran Posted February 8, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 8, 2015 Part of the goody bag that Jason assembled for me Hmmm... to me it looks rather that he's not done the assembled bit 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Physicsman Posted February 8, 2015 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted February 8, 2015 Hmmm... to me it looks rather that he's not done the assembled bit Very true. Hee hee - I wouldn't let him! It's been good fun. My intention is to build another 4 or 5 wagons and bring them down for a painting and link-fitting in a few weeks time. Jeff 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Donw Posted February 8, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 8, 2015 Nice work Jeff. I am not sure if it applies to the kits you are building but I found with Slaters wagons in 0 that It was easier to fit the sprung Buffers and three links to the ends before assembling the body. I found it worth while cutting clearance at the back of the ends of the solebars to allow the buffer to work freely. Don Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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