RMweb Premium Physicsman Posted November 14, 2015 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted November 14, 2015 (edited) Evening Jeff, I hope nothing more serious than filial duty is making you stay a further week? By the look of the forecast you are in for some rough and very wet weather! Batten down the hatches, Kind regards, Jock. Thanks Jock. Dad's struggling a bit at the moment, but nothing too serious. So it's good to sort out my priorities and spend some more time with him. Pretty awful weather but plenty of time to think through LOTS of ideas for future KL2 work!! Jeff Edited November 14, 2015 by Physicsman Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Physicsman Posted November 14, 2015 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted November 14, 2015 Andy, James... I'll do my best to create some "mood lighting" for the Fell. The general lighting is much improved for KL2 as I'm using fluorescents rather than halogen spots. However, I'm aware of the effect that spot lighting had on the Fell and I know Andy really liked it. So I'll be rigging something up! The aluminium garage door runner frames are still in place - just above where the Fell-top will be. I'll use this in a manner similar to a theatre lighting rig (that runs above the stage) and mount some individual spots, shining down onto the Fell. I can hopefully create some nice shadows. Different coloured lighting? That's something I've not thought of trying - worth a go!! Jeff 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Physicsman Posted November 15, 2015 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted November 15, 2015 Just popped in to look at any comments. I'm starting to miss the Bunker, especially as I've got the next few steps planned out. I think a new tunnel portal will also be on the agenda as well as work to generate the outline valley landscape near the viaduct. Too much thinking worries me. It's amazing how much is involved in building a layout!! Jeff 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Kazmierczak Posted November 15, 2015 Share Posted November 15, 2015 LED lightbulbs seem all the rage at the moment Jeff. Supposed to be much more economical, as well as being very bright. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Physicsman Posted November 15, 2015 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted November 15, 2015 LED lightbulbs seem all the rage at the moment Jeff. Supposed to be much more economical, as well as being very bright. I'll have to look into what's available in the colour lighting area. It's quite exciting having the potential to light the Fell and surroundings in something other than "white" light. I also need to acquire some different fluorescent tubes. I like the ones I'm using but "daylight" tubes have been mentioned a number of times on here. Jeff 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gismorail Posted November 15, 2015 Share Posted November 15, 2015 Just popped in to look at any comments. I'm starting to miss the Bunker, especially as I've got the next few steps planned out. I think a new tunnel portal will also be on the agenda as well as work to generate the outline valley landscape near the viaduct. Too much thinking worries me. It's amazing how much is involved in building a layout!! Jeff Know exactly how you feel Jeff. I'm half way through wiring my new railway shed at the moment and was tossing and turning all night thinking about the next part of the installation and how I was going to get x number of cables into a conduit pipe into the workshop end. I'd run out of brown cable last thing on Saturday so have been unable to make any progress today as the wholesaler does open on a Sunday. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold unravelled Posted November 15, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 15, 2015 You can also get led "tubes" which replace fluorescent ones. They are more expensive than fluorescents, but a bit more efficient, and should save money in the long run. With the fittings I have all I had to do was unplug the starter, so the conversion is easily reversible. I have tried the led tapes, but found them a little disappointing. Not regarding light output, which is excellent, perhaps even too bright, but they can be a problem to mount. Recently I bought some 1m modules where the tape is mounted in an aluminium extrusion. These are much easier to put up. 12v plugtop supplies for them are easily sourced. I have found that some sort of fascia is needed with any variation of the led tape as the direct brightness is uncomfortable. Another point to notice is that there are several different sized led chips used, which may make a difference in brighness per metre. I can give details of what I've used if that's any help. Dave 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Physicsman Posted November 15, 2015 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted November 15, 2015 Know exactly how you feel Jeff. I'm half way through wiring my new railway shed at the moment and was tossing and turning all night thinking about the next part of the installation and how I was going to get x number of cables into a conduit pipe into the workshop end. I'd run out of brown cable last thing on Saturday so have been unable to make any progress today as the wholesaler does open on a Sunday. Have patience, my friend.... "Good things come to those that wait! " So I've been told..... Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Physicsman Posted November 15, 2015 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted November 15, 2015 You can also get led "tubes" which replace fluorescent ones. They are more expensive than fluorescents, but a bit more efficient, and should save money in the long run. With the fittings I have all I had to do was unplug the starter, so the conversion is easily reversible.I have tried the led tapes, but found them a little disappointing. Not regarding light output, which is excellent, perhaps even too bright, but they can be a problem to mount. Recently I bought some 1m modules where the tape is mounted in an aluminium extrusion. These are much easier to put up. 12v plugtop supplies for them are easily sourced.I have found that some sort of fascia is needed with any variation of the led tape as the direct brightness is uncomfortable. Another point to notice is that there are several different sized led chips used, which may make a difference in brighness per metre.I can give details of what I've used if that's any help.Dave Dave, I'm a fair way away from doing anything about the lighting at the moment. BUT I'm a great believer in the value of information, recommendations and advanced planning. So any details you wish to post on here will be gratefully received - photos as well, if possible! It'll probably spark further discussion and enlighten me (pun intended) about things I currently know little about. Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jock67B Posted November 16, 2015 Share Posted November 16, 2015 Jeff, You'll note from the time of posting that I'm having trouble sleeping at the moment! Really cheered to read that it is nothing serious that is detaining you - the Bunker will doubtless still be waiting when you get back! Safe journey when you do set out Kind regards, Jock. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Physicsman Posted November 16, 2015 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted November 16, 2015 Jeff, You'll note from the time of posting that I'm having trouble sleeping at the moment! Really cheered to read that it is nothing serious that is detaining you - the Bunker will doubtless still be waiting when you get back! Safe journey when you do set out Kind regards, Jock. Thanks Jock. Nothing serious - just nice to be able to stay with dad and help out for an extended period. Puts other things in perspective and also provides time to plan and rethink previous ideas. Hope you get some decent sleep tonight! Jeff 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
danstercivicman Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 This layout is amazing- the thread is massive! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Physicsman Posted November 17, 2015 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted November 17, 2015 This layout is amazing- the thread is massive! Thanks for that. But have a good read of the (slightly) larger KL thread - though you may fall asleep part way through!! Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
danstercivicman Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 Yep- I started reading it on my I-Phone, quickly got confused!!! Great layout. Its inspiring me to rip up part of my own!!! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Physicsman Posted November 18, 2015 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted November 18, 2015 Update: Still in Barrow with dad. I've placed an order for more ply/timber and insulation board for Fell and rear-station work. The stuff will be delivered next Wednesday, so work will re-commence then. Jeff 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jock67B Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 Evening Jeff, We're getting withdrawal symptoms now! Look forward to the re-start next week and hope you've withstood the ravages of the storms. Safe journey home when you do set out, Kind regards, Jock. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeHemmings Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 I don't think you're the only one getting withdrawal symptoms. Mike Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Physicsman Posted November 19, 2015 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted November 19, 2015 I don't think you're the only one getting withdrawal symptoms. Mike Keep taking the tablets, Mike!! Being away from the layout-build for the best part of 2 weeks certainly boosts the appetite to push on! Jeff 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Physicsman Posted November 20, 2015 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted November 20, 2015 Nothing new to report - mainly checking in! Schemes for using bridges from KL on the new layout passing through my head - we'll see when I get home. Any further comments/suggestions welcome at this quiet time. Jeff 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben pez Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 After your break jeff you'll be itching to chop up all that new recticel when its delivered! Cheers Ben Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Physicsman Posted November 20, 2015 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted November 20, 2015 After your break jeff you'll be itching to chop up all that new recticel when its delivered! Cheers Ben Yes Ben. I've ordered 4 8' x 4' 50mm sheets to get me started on the hillsides. I love this aspect of layout building. Trying to integrate the railway into the "landscape" is great fun! Jeff 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold SouthernRegionSteam Posted November 22, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 22, 2015 Sounds great Jeff, I'm getting excited for you! That's one of the most satisfying bits for me, too. I remember reading you wanted some suggestions for something, but I never saw what? That's the trouble with getting sidetracked - I miss out on stuff! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Physicsman Posted November 22, 2015 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted November 22, 2015 Sounds great Jeff, I'm getting excited for you! That's one of the most satisfying bits!! !! for me, too. I remember reading you wanted some suggestions for something, but I never saw what? That's the trouble with getting sidetracked - I miss out on stuff! Hi Jam. You didn't miss anything - my comment was just to invite any ideas that anyone might have. It's always good to listen to what others might say, especially as they sometimes have a bit more "perspective " than me. I'm taking the tablets at the moment, as for the last few nights I've fallen asleep thinking up variations on the way to build the Fell. Beats counting sheep!! Jeff 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
peach james Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 Jeff, we might be a little pushy around here at times, but remember, your dad is a finite resource, and when he's gone, that's it. So, if it pleases you more to be there with him than here with us, do it, don't worry about Kirkby Luneside, we can always go read Tony W. or someone else's thread. "I wanted to spend less time with dad" said very few people once dad dies... It kind of does put it all into prospective as to what is important in life. I know my spring plan is to go help dad move in with his ladyfriend, which should be a good 4+ week adventure. (also, if any of you are planning on attending, going to Great British Train Show, with a layout...). It's not about how much work we get done, but about a bit of time together. It's not like I can nip over for a visit- it's 5 hours flying time from here to there (and more normally, 12+ hrs travel time). It's even worse to go see my mum- who is more like 16 hrs travel from here. (although geographically about 700 km closer). So, take advantage of what you have got, it's a benefit. Anyway, while we would love to see progress, don't put off spending time with your dad & brother on our behalf, James 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Physicsman Posted November 22, 2015 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted November 22, 2015 Thanks James. Spot on! I came over to see dad (a mere 2 hour drive) about 2 weeks ago. Planned to be here for a week - going home on Tuesday. My brother is still at work so doesn't have the flexibility that I have. I'll be back in Cumbria before Christmas. As for being pushy.... Well, I think the Lunesters have got it right, which is why I pay so much attention to you all! Jeff 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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