No Decorum Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 Safe? I was using Hob-E-Lube gear oil on a J94 when the tube burst and covered me and the loco in gloopy oil. Mercifully, the carpet monster didn’t want any. All I got from Bachmann was that thousands had been sold and it hadn’t happened before. I think I’ll go for the premium stuff as in that excellent video. It seems to have a transparent applicator so that I can see when the oil is about to emerge. I can’t imagine why Peco has given up the idea of a long, thin applicator and now supplies its oil with a thick stubby one. It’s horrible and is what made me get Hob-E-Lube instead. (I know you meant something different by “safe”. ) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leopardml2341 Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 I always 'decant' oil from its original container and apply with a blunt pin, a'la the old Tri-Ang oil bottles: https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=triang+oil+bottle&client=tablet-android-pega&prmd=sivn&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwijuO2nrPHTAhXlA8AKHb89CYAQ_AUICigC&biw=960&bih=600#imgrc=jN40S0hLBKP1fM: Pic for illustration purposes only Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr chapman Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 Maybe one day mate, maybe one day. Cheers Dave Yes please! Had a look at mike's movies review. Very well done! That should silence a few DJM naysayers I bet you have quite the smug face on Surprised you didn't ship a few with a special optional FU headcode Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikesndbs Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 (edited) Safe? I was using Hob-E-Lube gear oil on a J94 when the tube burst and covered me and the loco in gloopy oil. Mercifully, the carpet monster didn’t want any. All I got from Bachmann was that thousands had been sold and it hadn’t happened before. I think I’ll go for the premium stuff as in that excellent video. It seems to have a transparent applicator so that I can see when the oil is about to emerge. I can’t imagine why Peco has given up the idea of a long, thin applicator and now supplies its oil with a thick stubby one. It’s horrible and is what made me get Hob-E-Lube instead. (I know you meant something different by “safe”. ) LOL yeah, plastic safe is what I meant you are right the Premium range are far better, but to be honest that gear lube is quite a pain to dispense sometimes. Quick question to Dave while we are about it, how easy and what hazards are there to exposing all the gear and motor linkages on the 71? Would like to check the motor bearings have been oiled and the same with the links Edited May 15, 2017 by mikesndbs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium New Haven Neil Posted May 15, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 15, 2017 Not heard much from these guys this week? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSpencer Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 Without any doubt Hob-E-Lube from Woodlands Scenics, probably want the medium oil for the gears and lite oil for stock axles and coupling rods on other locos. Very safe, very good quality. I have not received my 71 yet, but if pick ups are of the bearing type then keep oil away from those. For gears, you need an oil which sticks to the gears (does not fly off as they rotate) and yet thin enough that it does not act like as if you had added glue. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Andy Y Posted May 15, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted May 15, 2017 A first chance to see the production versions of Kernow MRC's limited edition weathered Class 71s. The weathering, copied from Mercig masters, really brings to life the wealth of bogies ,cabling detail and pantograph detail. http://www.kernowmodelrailcentre.com/p/55295/OO71-097-DJ-Models-Class-71-Electric-Locomotive-number-E5002 http://www.kernowmodelrailcentre.com/p/55294/OO71-098-DJ-Models-Class-71-Electric-Locomotive-number-E5019 http://www.kernowmodelrailcentre.com/p/55293/OO71-099-DJ-Models-Class-71-Electric-Locomotive-number-71-008 23 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Hilux5972 Posted May 15, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 15, 2017 Wow they look fantastic. Really brings out the Bogie detail. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRman Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 I still say I don't remember them ever being that dirty in green. In blue, however, those models look much more realistic (and I am not a blue livery 'basher'). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium John Isherwood Posted May 15, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 15, 2017 I still say I don't remember them ever being that dirty in green. In blue, however, those models look much more realistic (and I am not a blue livery 'basher'). I have a collection of fifty-six photos of Class 71s in green livery; the dirtiest that I could find are :- Regards, John Isherwood. 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Decorum Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 I always 'decant' oil from its original container and apply with a blunt pin, a'la the old Tri-Ang oil bottles: https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=triang+oil+bottle&client=tablet-android-pega&prmd=sivn&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwijuO2nrPHTAhXlA8AKHb89CYAQ_AUICigC&biw=960&bih=600#imgrc=jN40S0hLBKP1fM: Pic for illustration purposes only Not a bad idea, as it turned out! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSpencer Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 (edited) A first chance to see the production versions of Kernow MRC's limited edition weathered Class 71s. The weathering, copied from Mercig masters, really brings to life the wealth of bogies ,cabling detail and pantograph detail. http://www.kernowmodelrailcentre.com/p/55295/OO71-097-DJ-Models-Class-71-Electric-Locomotive-number-E5002 OO71-097 DJ Models E5002 - 1.jpg OO71-097 DJ Models E5002 - 2.jpg http://www.kernowmodelrailcentre.com/p/55294/OO71-098-DJ-Models-Class-71-Electric-Locomotive-number-E5019 OO71-098 DJ Models E5019 - 1.jpg OO71-098 DJ Models E5019 - 2.jpg http://www.kernowmodelrailcentre.com/p/55293/OO71-099-DJ-Models-Class-71-Electric-Locomotive-number-71-008 OO71-099 DJ Models 71008 - 1.jpg OO71-099 DJ Models 71008 - 2.jpg OO71-099 DJ Models 71008 - 3.jpg OO71-099 DJ Models 71008 - 4.jpg I will admit I was really tempted to cancel my crowd sourced clean blue and go for the weathered one which I greatly preferred, but decided to rest with the crowd sourced one. I had already previously cancelled the crowd sourced BR green one for Hattons green golden arrow version which was the one I wanted in the first place. The weathered blue would have complimented the weather 74 already ordered. Edited May 15, 2017 by JSpencer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
davesol Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 Fantastic! Order placed January 2015, e-mail received to say it has been posted. Well done Kernow and well done DJ Dave Solley 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trade Member charliepetty Posted May 15, 2017 Trade Member Share Posted May 15, 2017 DCC Sound from Legomanbiffo: We have been testing two of these fantastic models, they make the Hornby ones seem like they were designed by Noddy!!!! This model is a DCC Ready machine in every way. We have amended our ESU Decoder to take advantage of the capability of the models circuit board & speaker design. Below we have written a blow by blow account of how easy it is to fit sound into this brilliant locomotive: The two green DJM 71's arrived here today. Very impressive. Two minutes to fit chip and speaker, that's including soldering the bass reflex in. Sounds miles better than the Hornby one, obviously, with the full-size V4 chip and better bass reflex Supersound 3W speaker. I've tweaked the project to suit the mech and the auxiliary outputs they've used, light brightnesses etc. The cab lights are individually controllable (Aux1 & Aux2) but the headcode lights can only be set to come on at both ends at once as they're both fed from one auxiliary output (Aux 3). I've set the cab lights to change ends automatically and auto-extinguish, on F19. The headcode lights are on F20. Bif 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titan Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 (edited) A first chance to see the production versions of Kernow MRC's limited edition weathered Class 71s. The weathering, copied from Mercig masters, really brings to life the wealth of bogies ,cabling detail and pantograph detail. http://www.kernowmodelrailcentre.com/p/55295/OO71-097-DJ-Models-Class-71-Electric-Locomotive-number-E5002 OO71-097 DJ Models E5002 - 1.jpg OO71-097 DJ Models E5002 - 2.jpg http://www.kernowmodelrailcentre.com/p/55294/OO71-098-DJ-Models-Class-71-Electric-Locomotive-number-E5019 OO71-098 DJ Models E5019 - 1.jpg OO71-098 DJ Models E5019 - 2.jpg http://www.kernowmodelrailcentre.com/p/55293/OO71-099-DJ-Models-Class-71-Electric-Locomotive-number-71-008 OO71-099 DJ Models 71008 - 1.jpg OO71-099 DJ Models 71008 - 2.jpg OO71-099 DJ Models 71008 - 3.jpg OO71-099 DJ Models 71008 - 4.jpg I am curious, why no splodges of grease on the buffers? The only way they would appear like that is if they had been running around light engine for weeks! I know it is easy to add if I wanted to, but then again that should mean it would be easy to do at the factory too... But apart from that they look superb! Edited May 15, 2017 by Titan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRAILRAGE Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 (edited) My 2 71's (E5003 Green SYP and 71013 Blue FYE) arrived today one with a slightly crunched corner (Heart wrenching moment) on the box but otherwise ok and the other was fine. Packaging is excellent with these and very well thought our and on opening the box the anticipation was killing me as this was the first time I had actually seen one in the flesh. All I could say was WOW! They are truly stunning. A quick oil and then run in 10 mins in each direction mainly to test them and check my controllers (Guagemaster model W walkabouts) would be ok. Smooth slow speed control and no Idea what the top speed of these things should be but they look pretty good to me. I'm so glad that I chose to stay with the DJM crowd funded models (as I believed they would be something special but as photos never do things justice, I never realised how special) over Hornby as I think they really do have the edge over them with all the fine details that sometimes bring things to life and that's no slur against the Hornby model either as it really is a good model in its own right. Thank you very much Dave for producing these beautiful little models. I just cant wait to see the 74 now and hopefully the recent surge in interest will help move it in to production. A Much apprerciated Trialrage Edited May 16, 2017 by TRAILRAGE Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyewipe Jct Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 I have little or no interest in the Southern Region - hell, I don't even model in 4mm, but that weathered blue one? Crikey 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wigan Wallgate OO Gauge Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 I have little or no interest in the Southern Region - hell, I don't even model in 4mm, but that weathered blue one? Crikey I agree! I'm so so tempted to order one 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SDJR7F88 Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 71 013 has touched down. Here she is in action yesterday during some filming, on a long Parcel Rake. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJM Dave Posted May 16, 2017 Author Share Posted May 16, 2017 Hi everyone, I've posted this on my web site under maintenance, and here to let you know what does what on the class 71. Cheers Dave Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SGP Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 (edited) Cab lights ... a totally unneccesary and annoying feature on analogue if you can't switch them off. Drivers don't drive with the cab light on as they can't see where they are going. This 71 at least does have a switch. Edited May 16, 2017 by SGP Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judge Dread Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 (edited) Cab lights ... a totally unneccesary and annoying feature on analogue if you can't switch them off. Drivers don't drive with the cab light on as they can't see where they are going. This 71 at least does have a switch. In years gone by, lorry drivers driving with their cab lights on was a signal to others that there was "trouble" ahead. My late father would drive with the dashboard lights turned off so as to aid his night vision. Edited May 16, 2017 by Judge Dread 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted May 16, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 16, 2017 Hi everyone, I've posted this on my web site under maintenance, and here to let you know what does what on the class 71. Cheers Dave Dave, you may not be aware that certain DCC systems, certainly Digitrax, maybe NCE and other US-developed systems, have F2 as a non-latching button, as it is intended to be used for the whistle/horn. This may involve those users in some function re-mapping. Something to consider avoiding for future production? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJM Dave Posted May 16, 2017 Author Share Posted May 16, 2017 Dave, you may not be aware that certain DCC systems, certainly Digitrax, maybe NCE and other US-developed systems, have F2 as a non-latching button, as it is intended to be used for the whistle/horn. This may involve those users in some function re-mapping. Something to consider avoiding for future production? Hi Ian, Thanks for the post. Yes, I know about the non latching of F2, and it does mean that F2, if indeed you are going to use it, will mean re-mapping, but it is, I understand, quite easy, if a pain to do in the first place. Cheers Dave Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRman Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 Dave, you may not be aware that certain DCC systems, certainly Digitrax, maybe NCE and other US-developed systems, have F2 as a non-latching button, as it is intended to be used for the whistle/horn. This may involve those users in some function re-mapping. Something to consider avoiding for future production? Not quite true for the NCE: the F2 button is latching, but they also have a "Horn" button that duplicates F2 but is non-latching. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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