devondynosoar118 Posted May 8, 2018 Share Posted May 8, 2018 Got mine today, it ran smoothly in both directions straight out the box. It’s a beautiful model, so much detail and the daylight under the boiler is amazing in such a tiny loco. I want to fit sound to it in future, I looked at both the Loksound and Zimo next18 sound decoders, both were bigger than the size suggested in the manual. Are there any plans for a dedicated decoder for it or will a slightly bigger one fit? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PaulRhB Posted May 8, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 8, 2018 I looked at both the Loksound and Zimo next18 sound decoders, both were bigger than the size suggested in the manual. Are there any plans for a dedicated decoder for it or will a slightly bigger one fit? See Pauliebangers post two pages back, photos of the loco with top off, and it will be available in the next couple of weeks through Digitrains 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pauliebanger Posted May 8, 2018 Share Posted May 8, 2018 Got mine today, it ran smoothly in both directions straight out the box. It’s a beautiful model, so much detail and the daylight under the boiler is amazing in such a tiny loco. I want to fit sound to it in future, I looked at both the Loksound and Zimo next18 sound decoders, both were bigger than the size suggested in the manual. Are there any plans for a dedicated decoder for it or will a slightly bigger one fit? Have a look at this post http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/87702-Bachmann-announce-narrow-gauge-range-led-by-baldwin-4-6-0t/?p=3149887 This shows a ZIMO sound decoder fitted to the model. It's a new decoder, ZIMO MX659N18, specially designed to fit this and other small models. Best regards, Paul 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfsboy Posted May 8, 2018 Share Posted May 8, 2018 i cranked mine round 6 inch roundy type curves and it is on the edge but works and pulls and pushes assorted rolling stock like Bachmann weighted Peco 4 wheelers and Roco vans .It needs a good oiling (dont we all ducky) when I can find the lube . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
devondynosoar118 Posted May 9, 2018 Share Posted May 9, 2018 (edited) Have a look at this post http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/87702-Bachmann-announce-narrow-gauge-range-led-by-baldwin-4-6-0t/?p=3149887 This shows a ZIMO sound decoder fitted to the model. It's a new decoder, ZIMO MX659N18, specially designed to fit this and other small models. Best regards, Paul Thank you for that. Putting one of the kids on eBay now.Does it come from Digitrains with the sonunds on or do they charge extra for that? I couldn’t see a window at checkout for adding a choice of sound. If not where did you get the Baldwin sounds and how much extra was it? Edited May 9, 2018 by devondynosoar118 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted May 9, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 9, 2018 Putting one of the kids on eBay now. A man with his priorities properly sorted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pauliebanger Posted May 9, 2018 Share Posted May 9, 2018 (edited) Thank you for that. Putting one of the kids on eBay now. Does it come from Digitrains with the sonunds on or do they charge extra for that? I couldn’t see a window at checkout for adding a choice of sound. If not where did you get the Baldwin sounds and how much extra was it? Digitrains do not charge extra for loading the sound project of your choice. It's not yet available, all initial supply of decoders have gone, but when it is, the price you see will be the price of the decoder including the Baldwin sound project loaded. The model comes with a speaker fitted as standard so that will be the total cost. (plus postage unless you collect from store or or a show). Go to the Digitrainssound (ZIMO) pages rather than the decoder pages*, and select the project from there. Normally you would need to specify the decoder type but in this instance there's only one which will fit so they'll know which to send. If you can't see the project you need, an email or phone call will often turn up something not yet listed, so that's worth a try. *Pages start here, but Baldwin not yet listed: http://digitrains.co.uk/ecommerce/search.aspx?loc=1&q=&c=1&m=51&pg=1&s=ProductNameAsc&ppp=10 Best regards, Paul Edited May 9, 2018 by pauliebanger 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
devondynosoar118 Posted May 9, 2018 Share Posted May 9, 2018 Thank you. Once I collect the money from sale of children I will give them a ring. Glad they are sold out/not ready yet or the credit card would have taken the hit instead. I like this new style of plug in decoder, so much easier than soldering tiny decoder wires. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevelewis Posted May 9, 2018 Share Posted May 9, 2018 (edited) For information I have been testing the haulage capacity of my 2 Baldwins today, this was done on a continuous run layout in a shed approx. 8 x 6' the minimum radius is around 14" and it is level with no gradients. Both locos performed almost exactly the same, hauling easily 5 Bachmann bogie wagons* ( 2 vans & 3 opens) plus 4 Peco 4 wheel opens with resin 'coal' loads and 3 Peco 4 whl vans which have additional weighting added. that is a total of 34 axles . When I added a Peco L& B coach wheel slip occurred on the curves with one loco whilst the other loco stalled on curves! I will try them on the layout with gradients at a later date *The Bachmann open bogie wagons are loaded with resin ballast loads Edited May 9, 2018 by Stevelewis Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PaulRhB Posted May 9, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 9, 2018 After the recommeded running in on a circuit I popped it on my WW1 module to compare it to the Minitrains loco. The detail really does show but they look good together so now to do a bit to the Minitrains one to bring it up a bit Bachmann 009 Baldwin by -salisburyASC- then I put it with the Bachmann stock Bachmann 009 Baldwin by -salisburyASC- 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PaulRhB Posted May 9, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 9, 2018 A few comparisons with the Minitrains Baldwin. Bachmann & Minitrains Baldwins compared by -salisburyASC- Bachmann & Minitrains Baldwins compared by -salisburyASC- Bachmann & Minitrains Baldwins compared by -salisburyASC- Bachmann & Minitrains Baldwins compared by -salisburyASC- Bachmann & Minitrains Baldwins compared by -salisburyASC- 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronny Posted May 9, 2018 Share Posted May 9, 2018 Are they different scales? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scots region Posted May 9, 2018 Share Posted May 9, 2018 The Minitrains one is HO, Bachmann obviously OO. Alex Well that's a little annoying, a bit of a lost opportunity if you asked me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PaulRhB Posted May 9, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 9, 2018 (edited) Well that's a little annoying, a bit of a lost opportunity if you asked me.Minitrains is a German manufacturer so no real surprise there. The scale of their models varies between 3.5-4mm to match size wise. Much like LGB the rubber ruler is used so all their products look good together. It's been discussed many times and Andreas, Mr Minitrains, says that's how he likes to do it so feel free to have a go yourself Both locos run superbly and it's only when right next to each other it's so obvious. At least we have two of the WW1 locos with the 4-6-0 & 2-6-2, just need the Hunslet 4-6-0 next Edited May 9, 2018 by PaulRhB 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scots region Posted May 9, 2018 Share Posted May 9, 2018 Minitrains is a German manufacturer so no real surprise there. The scale of their models varies between 3.5-4mm to match size wise. Much like LGB the rubber ruler is used so all their products look good together. It's been discussed many times and Andreas, Mr Minitrains, says that's how he likes to do it so feel free to have a go yourself Both locos run superbly and it's only when right next to each other it's so obvious. At least we have two of the WW1 locos with the 4-6-0 & 2-6-2, just need the Hunslet 4-6-0 next Fair enough, if your wanting a Hunslet the Langley kit is available on eBay for around £46, sans chassis. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Hunslet-W4D-4-6-0-tank-loco-OO-OO9-Scale-UNPAINTED-Railway-Model-Kit/302691329780?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevelewis Posted May 9, 2018 Share Posted May 9, 2018 Well that's a little annoying, a bit of a lost opportunity if you asked me. Just wonderin' whose is the lost opportunity? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PaulRhB Posted May 9, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 9, 2018 (edited) Fair enough, if your wanting a Hunslet the Langley kit is available on eBay for around £46, sans chassis. [] It's the chassis that needs an upgrade most, now Bachmann have a very sweet running 4-6-0 (ish before anyone starts on the pony), Edited May 9, 2018 by PaulRhB 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scots region Posted May 9, 2018 Share Posted May 9, 2018 Just wonderin' whose is the lost opportunity? It was just if you wanted an Alco and a Baldwin together, it would look odd. Looking through my book on the war department light railways it would seem that the two weren't used together very often, not surprising given the proclivity of the Baldwin, near 500 examples, so many that quite a few never saw France. I did find one photo of a Hunslet, Baldwin and an Alco on shed together, though whats far more interesting is that seemed to be a practice of removing the side tanks and towing them behind on a flat wagon. There must have been some logic for this field conversion as photo show no less that six of these modifications. I would hypothesis that it was done to improve stability on the lightest sections of track. ScR. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bertiedog Posted May 9, 2018 Share Posted May 9, 2018 Any news of the other versions......my shop seems in the dark, as Bachmann just say they are on the way.... Stephen 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam Posted May 9, 2018 Share Posted May 9, 2018 Out of interest, does anyone know when the Quarry Hunslets might be released? They're cute little engines, just saying.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pre Grouping fan Posted May 9, 2018 Share Posted May 9, 2018 Out of interest, does anyone know when the Quarry Hunslets might be released? They're cute little engines, just saying.... If its anything like the baldwins a few years from now. But Bachmann seem to be catching up on announced items so hopefully sooner rather than later.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PhilJ W Posted May 9, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 9, 2018 It was just if you wanted an Alco and a Baldwin together, it would look odd. Looking through my book on the war department light railways it would seem that the two weren't used together very often, not surprising given the proclivity of the Baldwin, near 500 examples, so many that quite a few never saw France. I did find one photo of a Hunslet, Baldwin and an Alco on shed together, though whats far more interesting is that seemed to be a practice of removing the side tanks and towing them behind on a flat wagon. There must have been some logic for this field conversion as photo show no less that six of these modifications. I would hypothesis that it was done to improve stability on the lightest sections of track. ScR. They did tend to roll over, also the ground on which the track was laid could be unstable and limited axle weight. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
asmay2002 Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 It was just if you wanted an Alco and a Baldwin together, it would look odd. Nobody's made the Alco yet. The Mintrains loco is the US Army Baldwin which was different to the ALCOs built for the British Army. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastglosmog Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 It's the chassis that needs an upgrade most, now Bachmann have a very sweet running 4-6-0 (ish before anyone starts on the pony), Unfortunately, the coupled wheelbase of the Hunslet is shorter than the Baldwin and is even spaced, not the noticeable uneven spacing of the Baldwin. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scots region Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 Nobody's made the Alco yet. The Mintrains loco is the US Army Baldwin which was different to the ALCOs built for the British Army. Ah, I’m daft. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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