Popular Post rapidotrains Posted June 19, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted June 19, 2014 (edited) EDIT 6 November: Mould progress and test shots http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/91652-apt-e-mould-progress/&do=findComment&comment=1652332 EDIT 14 September 2014: Lots of new drawings http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/88792-apt-e-factory-drawings/page-3&do=findComment&comment=1589494 EDIT 12 September 2014: The Sandwich http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/87114-the-official-rapido-apt-e-thread/?p=1587120 EDIT Monday 18 August 2014: CNC sample to test the tilt and close-coupling mechanism: http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/88792-apt-e-factory-drawings/page-2&do=findComment&comment=1555696 EDIT Tuesday 5 August 2014: Factory drawings can be found here: http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/88792-apt-e-factory-drawings/ Hi all, Welcome to the official Rapido APT-E thread! We will be posting factory drawings and regular updates about the APT-E project here, and we very much welcome your input.The tilting mechanism of our model is very complex, so this is something we'd like you guys to see before we cut any steel so you can give your thoughts.Any drawings we show in the next couple of weeks are "pre scan" drawings so the nose looks like a cross between a horse and Sir Walter Raleigh.We'll show you revised drawings once we get the scan data entered.Thanks in advance for the feedback!-Jason Edited November 6, 2014 by rapidotrains 20 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Andy Y Posted June 23, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted June 23, 2014 Official announcement documentation Rapido Trains Inc. Is pleased to announce its first British outline model train, the APT-E in OO gauge. This exclusive model is being produced in proud association with locomotionmodels.com and the National Railway Museum. Rapido Trains Inc has a reputation for museum-quality products with an impressive level of accuracy and an insane amount of detail. Locomotion models.com has established a well-deserved reputation for accuracy and refinement in its Exclusive Edition 'National Collection in Miniature' series. The APT-E is an iconic 4-car train set which achieved bthe British railway speed record in 1975 and was the beginning of British rail's quest for faster trains. In May 2013 the APT-E won the prestigious Engineering Heritage award. It is now immortalised in miniature through the use of techniques every bit as revolutionary as those utilised in its original construction. The model is being designed with input from the members of the original APT-E development team as well as state-of-the-art laser 3D-scanning techniques and CAD work. Featuring a working tilt system and full interior instrumentation the OO gauge APT-E model will be every bit as revolutionary as the real thing. This OO gauge model is being produced strictly to order so you must reserve your model before 30 April 2015 to be assured delivery Specification: Two power cars each with a 5-pole, skew-wound motor Two trailer cars with articulated swinging arm trailer bogies 3D scanned exterior for accurate body contours Operating tilt mechanism and close coupling Full interior detail including illuminated test instrumentation. Working headlamps, tail lamps and interior lighting Conventional DC or factory fitted with ESU DCC sound decoder Accurate sounds recorded from archival footage Smmoth-running mechanism with dual motors and flywheels Designed for drop-in conversion to EM or P4 wheelsets Includes lavishly-illustrated commemorative book. Limited Edition strictly to order Products: 13001 OO APT-E set - DC (DCC ready) - £225 Includes two motorised power cars, trailing car with instrumentation and trailer car with seats 13501 OO APT-E set - DCC sound fitted - £325 Four car set as 13001 with factory-fitted ESU Loksound decoder with correct sounds 13002 OO APT-E Trailing Car - £49 Additional trailing car with seats and one intermediate bogie and joint module. Perfect for those who want create a longer train as it may have been in service. Delivery late 2015, reservations must be made by 30 April 2015. 28 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karhedron Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 (edited) Great choice! (and I guessed right ). Any chance of an N gauge version? Edited June 24, 2014 by Karhedron Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Phil Bullock Posted June 24, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 24, 2014 Fantastic prototype - look forwards to seeing this move forwards Is it moose proof ? No buffers....... Afraid not for me but hope this is a riproaring success and other models follow Cheers Phil 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodenhead Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 Where will/are the sounds obtained from for the sound chip? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
reevesthecat Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 How do you order? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PaulCheffus Posted June 24, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 24, 2014 Any chanc of an N gauge version? Hi I would be interested in an N version also. Cheers Paul 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted June 24, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 24, 2014 And just for info - the significance of the 3 and the 6. The power cars were numbered PC 1 and PC 2, the trailers were numbered TC 1 and TC2 - thus two power car (or two trailer) numbers added together make 3, the numbers of all four vehicles added together make 6. On a note for Jason PC1 definitely carried a painted number (PC1) and that is visible in some pics, I don't know if the other vehicles carried painted numbers. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gelboy45 Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 Oh no! Not another GWR branchline engine..... Gerry Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luke_stevens Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 How do you order? Links to pre-order (with deposits) http://www.locomotionmodels.com/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Graham_Muz Posted June 24, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 24, 2014 Where will/are the sounds obtained from for the sound chip? From Archive footage as stated in Andy's post above. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodenhead Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 From Archive footage as stated in Andy's post above. Didn't see that line Doh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taigatrommel Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 Not crazy prices either... good luck with the models Jason & Co! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Igor Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 Links to pre-order (with deposits) Deposit? Why? That'll put a lot of people off. Many will want to see some progress (see Hornby thread) before parting with any hard-earned. I read Stationmaster's recent comment over on Hornby section and have similar thoughts... Stationmaster wrote: I will not place money upfront with retailers for pre-orders, end of. In my view if a so called 'business' requires me to stake them then they are not the sort of business where my money would be safe. If it was a 'shared development cost' my view might be different but again why couldn't they develop the model without my financial help, how sound is their business plan? Could paste this easily, hence no quote box. Sorry Regards Igor Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
69843 Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 Well, there goes my wallet, and jaw! An excellent choice by the Rapido team of an iconic missing link in the realms of MUs and research vehicles. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
34theletterbetweenB&D Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 (edited) Deposit? Why? That'll put a lot of people off. Many will want to see some progress (see Hornby thread) before parting with any hard-earned. I read Stationmaster's recent comment over on Hornby section and have similar thoughts... Stationmaster wrote: I will not place money upfront with retailers for pre-orders, end of. In my view if a so called 'business' requires me to stake them then they are not the sort of business where my money would be safe. If it was a 'shared development cost' my view might be different but again why couldn't they develop the model without my financial help, how sound is their business plan? I believe this is the same business plan that Rapido have successfully used in their previous productions of North American prototypes. There's some risk in it for the customer, and that is something the UK OO market isn't accustomed to. The offer is simple: accept this risk if you want the model. It's a choice and there's no compulsion; it's wholly in the potential customer's hands. Edited June 24, 2014 by 34theletterbetweenB&D Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
modelpara Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 I am really pleased that my guess was right and I will be placing my order tomorrow as it will fit in nicely with my APT-P development plans. I am shocked at the value for money we are getting it's a LOT cheaper than I expected! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenman Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 Deposit? Why? That'll put a lot of people off. Many will want to see some progress (see Hornby thread) before parting with any hard-earned. I read Stationmaster's recent comment over on Hornby section and have similar thoughts... Stationmaster wrote: I will not place money upfront with retailers for pre-orders, end of. In my view if a so called 'business' requires me to stake them then they are not the sort of business where my money would be safe. If it was a 'shared development cost' my view might be different but again why couldn't they develop the model without my financial help, how sound is their business plan? Could paste this easily, hence no quote box. Sorry Regards Igor I think that's a really interesting issue. Having already slapped in my order (while feeling suitably smug that I also guessed correctly), I see this as a punt. On the basis of their reputation I'm prepared to stump up a deposit once and, if the end result is worth it, I'll be happy but, if it isn't, they will never again get my business. It's the same principle I use when I buy professional services from a model-maker, for example, and pay up-front for the costs of the materials, any kit, etc. So far, touch wood, that's all worked out fine. Paul 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium brushman47544 Posted June 24, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 24, 2014 (edited) A good choice and what I guessed. The price is certainly good - presumably it can be kept down because there's not a lot of external detail that needs to be a separate fitting. I trust it will have separately fitted windscreen wipers, but are there any/many external handrails? Good luck to Rapido. I haven't made my mind up yet, but it is very tempting. Any chance of a DCC fitted non sound option? EDIT: as for paying a deposit, provided there is good progress on show so we have a pretty clear idea as to how it will look before the 30 April 2015 deadline for placing orders, paying a deposit won't be a showstopper for me. Edited June 24, 2014 by brushman47544 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAndy Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 Not for me I'm afraid. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coniston branch Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 Not crazy prices either... good luck with the models Jason & Co! Surprisingly cheap, was expecting double that !! Thanks Jason Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johndon Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 No use to me whatsoever for either the current or the planned layout but I've just ordered onePrice is a lot less than I would have expected and the killer for me was 'Designed for drop-in conversion to P4 and EM wheelsets' John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Ian J. Posted June 24, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 24, 2014 I would love one of these, though I've no way of putting a deposit down now. Can I ask that when it gets nearer the cutoff date that Rapido/Andy Y keep us reminded of this? I hope (against the prevailing trend in my life) that I will be able to sort something out by then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 2ManySpams Posted June 24, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 24, 2014 Designed for drop in EM wheelsets you say... Did they get down to st Blazey? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodenhead Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 Deposit? Why? That'll put a lot of people off. Many will want to see some progress (see Hornby thread) before parting with any hard-earned. I read Stationmaster's recent comment over on Hornby section and have similar thoughts... Stationmaster wrote: I will not place money upfront with retailers for pre-orders, end of. In my view if a so called 'business' requires me to stake them then they are not the sort of business where my money would be safe. If it was a 'shared development cost' my view might be different but again why couldn't they develop the model without my financial help, how sound is their business plan? Could paste this easily, hence no quote box. Sorry Regards Igor The way I would look at the deposit scenario is this, does the person developing the model have a past history of delivering good models. If the answer is yes and I want the model then I put down the deposit. If the answer is no then I walk away - there was a proposal for a Leader locomotive a couple of years back, there was no history behind the person doing the model so no way I was going to put money up front. Now if it is a retailer doing this, I am not so sure I would want to put in a deposit as there are now multiple parties involved and more of a risk of one of them going down and my money with it. If it was Hornby, Dapol, Bachmann doing it, no I wouldn't, they are big enough to stand on their own two feet. Then there is DJM, new company, old name - difficult one and I am glad that Dave has gone down the route of putting his money where his mouth is because although I believe he is honest and will deliver good models he has no current history in doing so on his own. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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