RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted January 17, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 17, 2015 When I enlarge the original scan I would say D7571, as the last digit does appear to be straight, not shaped as the first and third digit. When I look at the image as it appears on RMWeb I think I would say it is either 1 or 7 at the end of the number. Obviously the software used to display the image, and the file size can make things look different - the file size on RMWeb is a lot smaller than my original file. Also as far as I know D7571 was allocated to Leeds Holbeck wheras D7577 was allocated to the Manchester area. So I think D7571 is the more likely number. It is often very hard to read numbers off images - I've been trying for many years when I have forgotten to make a note when I take the photo. Some modern stock with tiny numbers is a nightmare to identify! David Hence my suggestion. Also more likely to have got 2 digits reversed in the notebook. Mike. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted January 17, 2015 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted January 17, 2015 (edited) An electrified line again this evening but this time at 1500V DC. We'll have a look at Woodhead station and a very brief visit to Torside. More photos of the route will follow in due course - but I'm not saying when! Woodhead 76034 and another eastbound oil April 77 C3274 Woodhead Class 76 eastbound empty steel April 77 J5658 Woodhead 76013 and 76022 with BR crest westbound light engines April 80 J6868 Woodhead 76 eastbound empty coal April 80 J6873 Torside 76022 in early blue with BR crest eastbound hoppers April 77 C3270 David Edited January 17, 2015 by DaveF 48 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gerbil-Fritters Posted January 17, 2015 Share Posted January 17, 2015 To think I had a ticket for a 'last run' over the Woodhead, and didn't go... When the Woodhead was open, Sheffield used to feel exotic and wonderful, a gateway to a strange electric railway, a super hump yard, steel mills and what-not. Now it's just bloody Sheffield,home of horrible Merde Ians and various buses on wheels... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
locoholic Posted January 17, 2015 Share Posted January 17, 2015 At least you saw some trains when you visited the Woodhead line. I booked a few nights at Crowden Youth Hostel, for a cycling and photographic trip, only to find that there were no trains due to a strike. The only Class 76 I ever saw moving was a light engine at Tinsley, just before I went home. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
great central Posted January 17, 2015 Share Posted January 17, 2015 Hi Dave, sorry to be picky but in C3274 it won't be 76054 as the loco in the picture is multi-fitted, you can tell by the upturned handrail around the cab front. Perhaps it's 76034 which was an air brake only loco? 76054 was a vac only loco so kept the straight handrail. J6873 there's only one loco? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted January 17, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 17, 2015 Hi, Dave. Have always had an interest in the Woodhead line, and how good it is to see these photo's. I've had a look, in the enlarged view, at J6873 and it does appear that there is only one 76, unless there is a banker - the overhead gantries are getting in the way of the rear of the train. Please keep the photo's coming, All the best, Market65. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted January 17, 2015 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted January 17, 2015 Hi Dave, sorry to be picky but in C3274 it won't be 76054 as the loco in the picture is multi-fitted, you can tell by the upturned handrail around the cab front. Perhaps it's 76034 which was an air brake only loco? 76054 was a vac only loco so kept the straight handrail. J6873 there's only one loco? Hi, Dave. Have always had an interest in the Woodhead line, and how good it is to see these photo's. I've had a look, in the enlarged view, at J6873 and it does appear that there is only one 76, unless there is a banker - the overhead gantries are getting in the way of the rear of the train. Please keep the photo's coming, All the best, Market65. Many thanks to you both for pointing these out. It's probably 76034, I'll alter the caption. As for the 2x76- it's a copy and paste error as I was captioning a batch ready to use at some future date.. David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
great central Posted January 17, 2015 Share Posted January 17, 2015 Many thanks to you both for pointing these out. It's probably 76034, I'll alter the caption. As for the 2x76- it's a copy and paste error as I was captioning a batch ready to use at some future date.. David 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted January 18, 2015 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted January 18, 2015 (edited) The first set of photos today were taken at what is now "The Embsay and Bolton Abbey Steam Railway", I think that when I took the photos it was the Yorkshire Dales Railway. At the time of the photos in 1972 and 1975 I'm not sure if they were running trains, but it was always pleasant to have a walk round and see what was going on. Embsay Aug 72 C1061 Taken looking east towards Bolton Abbey with a very typical Midland Railway track plan. Embsay Avonside Fred Aug 72 C1063 Embsay Sentinel Ann ex British Tar Company and another loco Aug 72 C1064 Embsay Peckett Banshee Metre gauge Aug 72 C1065 Embsay Peckett and others April 75 C1932 Embsay Peckettt Banshee metre gauge April 75 C1933 David Edited January 18, 2015 by DaveF 25 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted January 18, 2015 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted January 18, 2015 (edited) Now for this evening's photos. We're back at Rotherham for a few more images of much the same views but with different trains. My apologies for the quality of the weed killing train photo, it was a case of seeing a train going by as I entered the station, dash onto the platform and grab a shot. Rotherham Masborough Station South Junction November 1976 J5546 Rotherham Masborough Station South Junction view toweards Treeton December 1976 J5551 Rotherham Masborough Class 114 up pass December 1976 J5552 Rotherham Masborough Station South Junction Class 40 up freight December 1976 J5555 Rotherham Masborough Class 25 down weedkilling train 12th August 1977 C3484 David Edited January 18, 2015 by DaveF 40 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonny777 Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 Excellent work David. I just love backlit photos. They give a wholly different atmosphere to the railway infrastructure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leopardml2341 Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 The first shot in particular is totally wonderful....I won't say "gorgeous" though That's cos yer not from Rovram 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leopardml2341 Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 Excellent Dave. Wish I'd had the means to shoot pics like these when I was a young lad 'spotting there in the mid / late seventies. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leopardml2341 Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 Dave, I'm thinking C3484 above might be a Sulzer Type 2 rather than a 31. Can't enlarge it enough to be absolutely certain. Rgds, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted January 18, 2015 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted January 18, 2015 Dave, I'm thinking C3484 above might be a Sulzer Type 2 rather than a 31. Can't enlarge it enough to be absolutely certain. Rgds, I'm not quite sure either, I changed my mind from a 25 to a 31 when I captioned it. The original slide and scan aren't clear either. If only I'd got there a minute earlier - and I wonder how many times I've said that over the years! David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leopardml2341 Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 Were the coaches standard b/g - the grey looks a little 'creamy' on the PIC? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Phil Bullock Posted January 18, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 18, 2015 More smashing pictures Dave Having enlarged its a 25 on the weedkillers - early body shell with numerous small grilles, but they are eccentric rather than symmetrical as per 31 Andy beat me to it! Cheers Phil Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted January 18, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 18, 2015 Hi, Dave. Excellent photo's, and just too add, quickly, that in the final photo', in addition to the 'different' grills from a class 31, there is no tumblehome in the way that you have on a class 31, so yes, it's a class 25. Like the early years shots of the Embsay and Bolton Abbey Steam Railway in addition to those of Rotherham. I love the backlit ones as well, they work so well. Please keep the photo's coming, All the best, Market65. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted January 18, 2015 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted January 18, 2015 Were the coaches standard b/g - the grey looks a little 'creamy' on the PIC? I think they were in a green and cream color for the company that operated the train. More smashing pictures Dave Having enlarged its a 25 on the weedkillers - early body shell with numerous small grilles, but they are eccentric rather than symmetrical as per 31 Andy beat me to it! Cheers Phil Many thanks, I'll go back to my original thought! David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium uax6 Posted January 18, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 18, 2015 I like that shot of the weedkiller train, the coaches look like Stanier BG's. Who noticed the tail lamp hanging on the rear drawhook? You don't see that often... Mind you I know of occasions when the tail lamp was a rolled up newspaper..... Andy g Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leopardml2341 Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 The more I look at J5546, the more I think it would make a fabulous, if somewhat difficult jigsaw puzzle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewartingram Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 I like that shot of the weedkiller train, the coaches look like Stanier BG's. Who noticed the tail lamp hanging on the rear drawhook? You don't see that often... Mind you I know of occasions when the tail lamp was a rolled up newspaper..... Andy g Had it been lit? Stewart 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium uax6 Posted January 18, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 18, 2015 No, but it lasted longer than the toilet roll..... Andy G 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmrspaul Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 Were the coaches standard b/g - the grey looks a little 'creamy' on the PIC? The Fisons Weedkiller coaches carried a variety of colours, but yellow and green seems likely in 1977 http://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/fisonsweedkiller The Rotherham photo is lovely. Paul Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Fitness Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 The first set of photos today were taken at what is now "The Embsay and Bolton Abbey Steam Railway", I think that when I took the photos it was the Yorkshire Dales Railway. At the time of the photos in 1972 and 1975 I'm not sure if they were running trains, but it was always pleasant to have a walk round and see what was going on. Embsay Aug 72 C1061.jpg Embsay Aug 72 C1061 Taken looking east towards Bolton Abbey with a very typical Midland Railway track plan. Embsay Avonside Fred Aug 72 C1063.jpg Embsay Avonside Fred Aug 72 C1063 Embsay Sentinel Ann ex British Tar Company and another loco Aug 72 C1064.jpg Embsay Sentinel Ann ex British Tar Company and another loco Aug 72 C1064 Embsay Peckett Banshee Metre gauge Aug 72 C1065.jpg Embsay Peckett Banshee Metre gauge Aug 72 C1065 Embsay Peckett and others April 75 C1932.jpg Embsay Peckett and others April 75 C1932 Embsay Peckettt Banshee metre gauge April 75 C1933.jpg Embsay Peckettt Banshee metre gauge April 75 C1933 David Wonder if the 2 Ex Bradford trolleybuses by the goods shed in C1061 survived. In 1972, they would have only just been withdrawn from service. I think Bradford had the last trolley bus network in the UK. JF Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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