Flying Fox 34F Posted July 13 Share Posted July 13 13 hours ago, DaveF said: A batch of black and white photos this afternoon. Elsenham O1 up goods from footplate of B1 c1948 JVol7089 David, I’m pretty certain the locomotive approach the B1, on which your Father was travelling is a Gresley 02. The shape of the footplate around the smoke box is the giveaway. Excellent images as always. Thank you for sharing. Paul 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted July 13 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted July 13 9 hours ago, Davexoc said: It looks like Klansman which around that date would coincide with KKK goings on. Hmmm..... I've had a look at the original scan of my slide, there is a bit to the left which has been rubbed out. The right hand end seems to end in a V or W followed by an exclamtion mark. David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted July 13 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted July 13 Some Swiss metre gauge photos this morning all taken on the Brünigbahn between Luzern and Interlaken. Three of the photos are at Meiringen, the location used by Arthur Conan Doyle for the story where Sherlock Holmes was supposed to have met his death at the hands of Moriarty at the Reichenbach Falls. There are a number of references to it around the town. Those who know Switzerland will wonder what on earth a Biere Apples Morges (BAM) railcar was doing on the Brünig as BAM stock is not rack fitted. It was running between Interlaken and Meiringen as a part of the BLS 75th and Brünig 100th anniversary celebrations in August 1988 when there was a big exhibition of items from all over Europe at Interlaken West and Ost stations. Meiringen SBB Brünig Deh4/6 904 12th Aug 88 C10823 Meiringen BAM Biere Apples Morges Be4/4 11 Meiringen to Interlaken Ost on loan for Brünig 10012th Aug 88 C10824 Meiringen BAM Biere Apples Morges Be4/4 11 Meiringen to Interlaken Ost on loan for Brünig 100 12th Aug 88 C10825 Sachseln SBB Brunig De4/4 906 Luzern to Giswil 11th Aug 91 C16281 Sachseln SBB Brunig HGe4/4ii 101 969 Luzern to Interlaken Ost 11th Aug 91 C16282 Sachseln SBB Brunig HGe4/4ii 101 969 Luzern to Interlaken Ost 11th Aug 91 C16283 David 45 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted July 13 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted July 13 Some photos at Whitehaven in August 1975 when he and Mum had a holiday in the area. Some 50 years ago I was offered a job in Whitehaven but turned it down and went to Essex instead as that was a more senior position and was a better career move. I sometimes wonder what might have happened had I moved to Cumbria... Whitehaven Aug 75 J4632 Whitehaven Class 25 in distance Aug 75 J4633 Whitehaven Aug 75 J4635 Whitehaven Aug 75 J4636 Whitehaven Preston Street goods branch and docks Aug 75 J4637 David 46 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold russ p Posted July 13 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 13 Great pictures David, I didn't realise rail traffic on the Dock lasted so late. Was the incline to Haig pit still in use then? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted July 13 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted July 13 (edited) 16 minutes ago, russ p said: Great pictures David, I didn't realise rail traffic on the Dock lasted so late. Was the incline to Haig pit still in use then? I'm assuming you mean the Howgill incline which had a landslip in 1972 which put it it of service. A conveyor was then built but have no details. There are photos of the incline and later conveyor in irishswissernies flickr site: https://www.flickr.com/photos/irishswissernie/albums/72157668581940828/page2 They are about half way down the page. David Edited July 13 by DaveF 1 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
33C Posted July 13 Share Posted July 13 1 hour ago, DaveF said: Whitehaven Aug 75 J4636 Getting a bit Gifford! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted July 13 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 13 Good evening, David. That’s a fantastic selection of photo’s of the Swiss metre gauge, on the Brünigbahn, between Luzern and Interlaken, in 1988 and 1991. The first photo’ at Meiringen, of SBB Brünig Deh4/6, 904, on the 12th August, 1988, is a well composed portrait shot of the lovely electric locomotive. The photo’s of Whitehaven, in August, 1975, by your Dad, are a superb and atmospheric set. J4633, of a Class 25 in the distance, is a superb composition, and it is a beautiful scene. Very best regards, Rob. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted July 14 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted July 14 In July 1973 Dad and I went with others to Birchenwood coke ovens, Kidsgrove to look at the locos to see if any were worth buying for preservation. These are a few photos taken on the day. Kidsgrove Birchenwood coke ovens Bagnall 0-4-0ST and 0-6-0T July 73 C 1289 Kidsgrove Birchenwood coke ovens Peckett and Bagnall July 73 C1290 Kidsgrove Birchenwood Peckett July 73 J3250 Kidsgrove Birchenwood July 73 J3251 Kidsgrove Birchenwood Avonside July 73 J3253 David 42 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold russ p Posted July 14 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 14 16 hours ago, DaveF said: I'm assuming you mean the Howgill incline which had a landslip in 1972 which put it it of service. A conveyor was then built but have no details. There are photos of the incline and later conveyor in irishswissernies flickr site: https://www.flickr.com/photos/irishswissernie/albums/72157668581940828/page2 They are about half way down the page. David I didn't realise it was all so late, any idea when rail on the Dock ended for good 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted July 14 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted July 14 2 hours ago, russ p said: I didn't realise it was all so late, any idea when rail on the Dock ended for good Now that I don't know, sorry. David 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium corneliuslundie Posted July 14 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 14 I remember reading a book about the railways and industry of Whitehaven - probably given to me by my sister but now passed on. Yes, this one: WHITEHAVEN - THE RAILWAYS AND WAGGONWAYS OF A UNIQUE CUMBERLAND PORT by Howard Quayle Cumbrian Railways Association but OOP. Jonathan 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted July 14 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted July 14 (edited) Two locations on the ECML between Newcastle and Cramlington. Heading north you first come to Dudley and then a very short distance beyond you reach Damdykes level crossing. Dudley 43071 down ex pass 19.19 30th June 86 C7599 Dudley 47362 down parcels 19.56 14th July 86 C7609 Dudley Class 143 Morpeth to Newcastle 19.57 14th July 86 C7610 Damdykes Class 101 Morpeth to Newcastle Dec 81 C5611 Damdykes Class 47 down Dec 81 C5613 47511 Damdykes Class 43 Kings X to Edinburgh 22nd Jan 84 C6394 Damdykes gates closing 22nd Jan 84 C6396 My car in the snow. I think I'd stay at home now! David Edited July 14 by DaveF 43 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted July 14 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 14 Good evening, David. That’s a fantastic set of photo’s of Birchenwood coke ovens, Kidsgrove, in July, 1973. J3250, of a Peckett tank engine is a fascinating study of the engine in store. The photo’s of the ECML between Newcastle and Cramlington, going north at Dudley and Damdykes crossing are a superb selection. C5613, at Damdykes, with a Class 47 on a down express train, in December, 1981, is a well composed shot of the train on a cloudy and gloomy December day. Very best regards, Rob. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
62613 Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 Jvol7262; what is the third vehicle, with the low roof and ducket? Something ex - GN? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium brushman47544 Posted July 14 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 14 C5613 is 47511 Thames. The giveaway is the larger than normal numbers and length of nameplate. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted July 14 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted July 14 16 minutes ago, 62613 said: Jvol7262; what is the third vehicle, with the low roof and ducket? Something ex - GN? I am hoping that someone knows as I wondered about it too. David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 31A Posted July 14 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 14 1 hour ago, 62613 said: Jvol7262; what is the third vehicle, with the low roof and ducket? Something ex - GN? 1 hour ago, DaveF said: I am hoping that someone knows as I wondered about it too. David Difficult to say but from the shape of the ducket it could perhaps be an ex Great Eastern clerestory coach, or possibly even ex North Eastern which I have seen pictures of being used in East Anglia at that time. I was going to say in connection with that photo but didn't want to sound pedantic, a Cambridge - Liverpool Street train wouldn't actually pass through Shepreth (which is some miles along the line to Hitchin and King's Cross), but it could be at Shepreth Branch Junction where the King's Cross line (the 'Shepreth Branch' to the Great Eastern) diverges from the Liverpool Street line south of Cambridge. Although another reason why I didn't say that was that I couldn't envisage that view being at Shepreth Branch Junction, bearing in mind the curvature of the line and the visible signal. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwealleans Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 Steve's got it with the shape of the ducket; my first reaction was an ex-GE 6 wheeler. The last ones didn't go until 1951, but they were on the Mid Suffolk by then. Does anyone know when they went from normal services? 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted July 14 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted July 14 59 minutes ago, 31A said: Difficult to say but from the shape of the ducket it could perhaps be an ex Great Eastern clerestory coach, or possibly even ex North Eastern which I have seen pictures of being used in East Anglia at that time. I was going to say in connection with that photo but didn't want to sound pedantic, a Cambridge - Liverpool Street train wouldn't actually pass through Shepreth (which is some miles along the line to Hitchin and King's Cross), but it could be at Shepreth Branch Junction where the King's Cross line (the 'Shepreth Branch' to the Great Eastern) diverges from the Liverpool Street line south of Cambridge. Although another reason why I didn't say that was that I couldn't envisage that view being at Shepreth Branch Junction, bearing in mind the curvature of the line and the visible signal. 10 minutes ago, jwealleans said: Steve's got it with the shape of the ducket; my first reaction was an ex-GE 6 wheeler. The last ones didn't go until 1951, but they were on the Mid Suffolk by then. Does anyone know when they went from normal services? Many thanks for the attempts to identify the coach and the location. Of all Dad's photos the ones in the Vol7 number series are the least well captioned in terms of location. I suspect they may have been ones he didn't print at first and then did them later on by which time he may have misremembered the exact locations. He also always tended to use the nearest place name to where he was standing, not always the railway name. It makes it "interesting" when working on his photos. I have to admit I have some of mine where I find the location is wrong too! David 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 31A Posted July 14 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 14 49 minutes ago, DaveF said: Many thanks for the attempts to identify the coach and the location. Of all Dad's photos the ones in the Vol7 number series are the least well captioned in terms of location. I suspect they may have been ones he didn't print at first and then did them later on by which time he may have misremembered the exact locations. He also always tended to use the nearest place name to where he was standing, not always the railway name. It makes it "interesting" when working on his photos. I have to admit I have some of mine where I find the location is wrong too! David Another possibility occurred to me after I wrote that; perhaps it was taken at Shepreth but it was a Cambridge-King's Cross train, rather than a Liverpool Street train? The line is certainly curved in that direction at Shepreth. Disc headboards were a GE Section thing, but I have seen pictures of Cambridge-KX trains carrying them rather than the usual headlamps. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted July 15 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted July 15 This morning we have spome photos from S&D 150 at Shildon in August 1975 plus one from June 1975. Shildon yard June 75 J4457 This view is different now. Shildon S15 841 Greene King 24th Aug 75 C2314 Shildon Merchant Navy 35028 Clan Line 24th Aug 75 C2335 Shildon K1 2005 24th Aug 75 C2341 Shildon D49 246 24th Aug 75 C2345 Shildon 24th Aug 75 C2358 9F Evening Star and NCB Austerity David 45 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted July 15 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted July 15 10 hours ago, 31A said: Another possibility occurred to me after I wrote that; perhaps it was taken at Shepreth but it was a Cambridge-King's Cross train, rather than a Liverpool Street train? The line is certainly curved in that direction at Shepreth. Disc headboards were a GE Section thing, but I have seen pictures of Cambridge-KX trains carrying them rather than the usual headlamps. That is quite possible. David 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
62613 Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 12 hours ago, jwealleans said: Steve's got it with the shape of the ducket; my first reaction was an ex-GE 6 wheeler. The last ones didn't go until 1951, but they were on the Mid Suffolk by then. Does anyone know when they went from normal services? Michael Harris (Gresley's Coaches) had the last one going in in around 1938, unless I've misread it. That may apply to gas - lit 4- and 6 - wheelers only. Here we have what looks like one in an ordinary service train; strange! 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold russ p Posted July 15 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 15 38 minutes ago, DaveF said: This morning we have spome photos from S&D 150 at Shildon in August 1975 plus one from June 1975. Shildon yard June 75 J4457 This view is different now. Shildon S15 841 Greene King 24th Aug 75 C2314 Shildon Merchant Navy 35028 Clan Line 24th Aug 75 C2335 Shildon K1 2005 24th Aug 75 C2341 Shildon D49 246 24th Aug 75 C2345 Shildon 24th Aug 75 C2358 9F Evening Star and NCB Austerity David Morning David great pictures About 10 years ago I was working at Shildon preparing ballast trains to leave site after a relay job I was talking to a few blokes who looked at me disbelievingly when I said the wasteland was one once one of the most modern yards in the world with full electrification I still can't believe I didn't get taken to S&D 150 1 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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