RMweb Gold DaveF Posted June 27 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted June 27 34 minutes ago, brushman47544 said: What's Dr Who (aka Jon Pertwee) doing in the verge...? C5430 must be 55014, which worked 1M04 07.18 Edinburgh to Carlisle train on Monday 1 June and Thursday 25 June. Chronicles of Napier has pretty much all the Deltic workings in 1981. The nameplate is of a NE loco on two lines, so 55002, 55005, 55011 and 55014. But 55002 was already green, 55005 spent all of June 81 in works and 55011 isn't recorded as working either the 07.18 Edinburgh - Carlisle or 1E29 17.18 ex Edinburgh that month (55014 didn't work 1E29 either). 21 minutes ago, St Enodoc said: Blackberrying? I must have taken Mum and Dad with me that day, Mum is picking blackberries. David 7 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted June 27 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted June 27 (edited) For some reason this thread vainished from "Content I started" so it has taken a while to find it. Anyway, here s another black and white photo of Dad's, once again from an 8" x 6" print taken in March 1948 at Coldham Lane Junction. David Edited June 27 by DaveF 48 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted June 27 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted June 27 (edited) A few more photos from Swayfield this afternoon. Thanks to the Pilotman for identifying the Class 31 and deltic. Swayfield Class 47 1775 up Jan 72 J2811 08.30 Halifax to Kings X Swayfield Class 47 11.30 Kings X to Leeds and Harrogate Feb 73 J3141 Swayfield Class 31 Skegness to Kings X Aug 74 J3999 31109 Swayfield 47535 up Nov 75 J4999 Swayfield 55012 down Feb 76 J5056 David Edited June 27 by DaveF 50 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium pete_mcfarlane Posted June 27 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 27 I wonder how long it took that class 31 to get to King's Cross with a dozen coaches behind it. 1 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Pilotman Posted June 27 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 27 (edited) J3141 is 1514 J3999 is 31109 J5056 is 55012 Edited June 28 by The Pilotman 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted June 27 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 27 Good evening, David. That’s a fantastic set of photo’s of Ulgham Lane crossing on the ECML. C5223, of a Class 40 on an up light engine movement, in November, 1980, is an excellent three quarter portrait shot, and I see the engine room door appears to be open. The black and print of O4/6, E3419, on an up class E through mineral train, from Whitemore to Temple Mills, at Coldham Lane Junction, in March, 1948, is a truly superb photo’, and how things have changed. The photo’s of Swayfield are an excellent selection. J3141, of a Class 47, on the 11.30 Kings Cross to Leeds and Harrogate service, in February, 1973, is a most delightful view, and the exhaust shows that the 47 was working relatively hard. Very best regards, Rob. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
35A Posted June 27 Share Posted June 27 12 hours ago, brushman47544 said: The nameplate is of a NE loco on two lines, so 55002, 55005, 55011 and 55014. But 55002 was already green, 55005 spent all of June 81 in works and 55011 isn't recorded as working either the 07.18 Edinburgh - Carlisle or 1E29 17.18 ex Edinburgh that month (55014 didn't work 1E29 either). Or 55017, Andrew. Difficult to tell, from the image, whether that is no. 1 end or no. 2 end. It looks like no. 2 end, it's not clear but I don't think that I can see the exhauster pipes - the trouble is that you can't see the exhauster hatch on the second man's side at the rear end, either! If it was no. 1 end of 55017, of course, it would be instantly recognisable by the missing central footstep. 17 didn't work the Carlisle, according to the Chronicles, although it did do the Edinburgh - Plymouth, to York. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted June 28 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted June 28 Western Switzerland today, at Montreux station to look at the MOB (Montreux Oberland Bernois) and the line to Rochers de Naye in August 1988. Montreux MOB GDe4/4 6001 Regionalzug 4th Aug 88 C10093 Montreux MOB BDe4/4 5001 Montreux to Chamby 4th Aug 88 C10094 Montreux Glion Rochers de Naye MGN ABhe2/4 204 4th August 1988 C10095 Montreux MOB GDe4/4 6001 Montreux to Zweisimmen 4th August 1988 C10096 Montreux MOB GDe4/4 6001 Montreux to Zweisimmen 4th Aug 88 C10097 Montreux MGN Bhe4/8 Montreux to Rochers de Naye 4th Aug 88 C10098 David 46 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium corneliuslundie Posted June 28 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 28 Thanks for the Montreux photos. I have been there and have travelled twice on the line up the local mountain, at one time branded as the Marmot line. Is that the Rochers de Naye line? I remember lost of yurts at the top, for hire. Jonathan 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mol_PMB Posted June 28 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 28 10 minutes ago, DaveF said: Western Switzerland today, at Montreux station to look at the MOB (Montreux Oberland Bernois) and the line to Rochers de Naye in August 1988. Montreux MOB GDe4/4 6001 Regionalzug 4th Aug 88 C10093 Montreux MOB BDe4/4 5001 Montreux to Chamby 4th Aug 88 C10094 Montreux Glion Rochers de Naye MGN ABhe2/4 204 4th August 1988 C10095 Montreux MOB GDe4/4 6001 Montreux to Zweisimmen 4th August 1988 C10096 Montreux MOB GDe4/4 6001 Montreux to Zweisimmen 4th Aug 88 C10097 Montreux MGN Bhe4/8 Montreux to Rochers de Naye 4th Aug 88 C10098 David Dave, those are spot-on for my interests, many thanks! Nice to see the 5000 series MOB railcars and the 6000 series locos when they were still fairly new. The railcars have since been very heavily rebuilt, while the the locos have now been demoted to works duties. The MOB bought 3 batches of what one might consider 'standard' EW coaches. The first 10 from 1964 had 16m bodies, low roofs and initially no gangways, represented here by the first class coach in the loco-hauled train and the second class coach on the far left of the second photo. The next 5 from 1973 were aluminium-bodied with the toilet right at the end of the carriage. They had 16m bodies, high roofs and initially no gangways; none appear in your shots. The final 9 from 1979 were also aluminium, a metre longer, had high roofs and gangways from new, represented here by the second class and composite coaches in the loco-hauled train. There were also a few similar-looking vehicles with their origins in conversions of older stock followed by subsequent rebuilds. A few of these EW coaches remain in use today, and surprisingly these are mostly heavy rebuilds of the 1960s batch and the conversions. Perhaps the steel bodies were more durable or easier to repair/modify. Photos 3 and 6 shows the Rochers-de-Naye railcars. 800mm gauge with rack-only propulsion, as distinct from the MOB which was 1000mm gauge without rack (though some fearsome 1:14 gradients!). Both lines were under the same management hence the similar liveries. The MOB has undergone numerous livery changes in the intervening years and the regular fleet now has a very consistent livery of very dark blue around the windows and cream below. However one of the Rochers-de-Naye twin railcars still carries the stripes of cream and light blue exactly as in your last photo. Now I'm hoping you ventured along the MOB to visit the GFM... 5 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mol_PMB Posted June 28 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 28 21 minutes ago, corneliuslundie said: Thanks for the Montreux photos. I have been there and have travelled twice on the line up the local mountain, at one time branded as the Marmot line. Is that the Rochers de Naye line? I remember lost of yurts at the top, for hire. Jonathan Yes, the Marmots are on Rochers de Naye. At one stage one of the MOB coaches carried an all-over 'Marmot's Paradise' livery but of course it never made it to see the Marmots because it was the wrong gauge to go up the mountain! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium St Enodoc Posted June 28 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 28 (edited) 42 minutes ago, DaveF said: Western Switzerland today, at Montreux station to look at the MOB (Montreux Oberland Bernois) and the line to Rochers de Naye in August 1988. Montreux MOB GDe4/4 6001 Regionalzug 4th Aug 88 C10093 Montreux MOB BDe4/4 5001 Montreux to Chamby 4th Aug 88 C10094 Montreux Glion Rochers de Naye MGN ABhe2/4 204 4th August 1988 C10095 Montreux MOB GDe4/4 6001 Montreux to Zweisimmen 4th August 1988 C10096 Montreux MOB GDe4/4 6001 Montreux to Zweisimmen 4th Aug 88 C10097 Montreux MGN Bhe4/8 Montreux to Rochers de Naye 4th Aug 88 C10098 David Lovely - very much how it was a few years earlier when I rode the MOB, in 1982. Edited June 28 by St Enodoc clarification 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Pilotman Posted June 28 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 28 15 hours ago, pete_mcfarlane said: I wonder how long it took that class 31 to get to King's Cross with a dozen coaches behind it. It’s just gone through Stevenage…. 3 12 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stentor Posted June 28 Share Posted June 28 In case anybody wonders what the small open wagon attached to railcar is for this is how it was being used in 2010. I'm sure that it has many other uses too, particularly during the winter season. //Simon 16 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium St Enodoc Posted June 28 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 28 10 minutes ago, Stentor said: In case anybody wonders what the small open wagon attached to railcar is for this is how it was being used in 2010. I'm sure that it has many other uses too, particularly during the winter season. //Simon Do they leave the babies in the buggies????? 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium brushman47544 Posted June 28 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 28 13 hours ago, 35A said: Or 55017, Andrew. Difficult to tell, from the image, whether that is no. 1 end or no. 2 end. It looks like no. 2 end, it's not clear but I don't think that I can see the exhauster pipes - the trouble is that you can't see the exhauster hatch on the second man's side at the rear end, either! If it was no. 1 end of 55017, of course, it would be instantly recognisable by the missing central footstep. 17 didn't work the Carlisle, according to the Chronicles, although it did do the Edinburgh - Plymouth, to York. Yes I should have included 55017, but I ruled that out as its nameplate is too short and it didn't work either the Carlisle or the 17.18. I also ignored the Edinburgh - Plymouth as that was formed of coffins by 1981. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted June 28 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted June 28 A B1 at Trumpington in March 1948. As usual Dad was taking advantage of his track pass. 45 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted June 28 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted June 28 Harrogate in 1965 and 1966 next. Harrogate Class 40 Newcastle to Liverpool Aug 65 J277 Harrogate Class 37 D6733 up White Rose Oct 65 J411 Harrogate Class 25 up Yorkshire Pullman Dec 65 J430 Harrogate B1 61216 Harrogate to Kings X Mar 66 J448 Harrogate Class 08 tracklying May 66 J509 David 53 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium corneliuslundie Posted June 28 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 28 Why can't we have trains like J430 any more? J 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium brushman47544 Posted June 28 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 28 1 hour ago, DaveF said: Harrogate Class 25 up Yorkshire Pullman Dec 65 J430 2 minutes ago, corneliuslundie said: Why can't we have trains like J430 any more? J I couldn’t agree more, and was going to say that places like Halifax and Harrogate were lucky having through coaches to London or other long distance destinations that were worked by Type 2s to where the main train was formed with Type 4 or 5 motive power. Now it’s just A to B and often poor connections from stations off the main route. Not an improvement in my opinion, especially for people for whom changing trains is not an easy task. 3 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted June 28 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 28 Good evening, David. That’s a great selection of photo’s from Western Switzerland at Montreux station, on the 4th August, 1988. C10095, of Glion Rochers de Naye MGN ABhe2/4, 204, is a particularly excellent photo’ of the unit. The black and white print of B1. 1092, on an up class F from Cambridge to Hitchin, at Trumpington, in April, 1948, is a superb photo’ of the well weathered B1. The photo’s of Harrogate in 1965 and 1966 are an excellent and atmospheric set. J448, of B1 61216, on a Harrogate to Kings Cross service, in March, 1966, is a superb shot of the steam hauled train. Very best regards, Rob. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 31A Posted June 28 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 28 4 hours ago, brushman47544 said: Now it’s just A to B and often poor connections from stations off the main route. Not an improvement in my opinion, especially for people for whom changing trains is not an easy task. Although Harrogate does have 6 London trains in each direction per day nowadays and Halifax has 4; not sure how many they had in steam days but probably not much better ...... 1 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted June 29 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted June 29 The Colne Valley Railway at Castle Hedingham in the 1970s. Castle Hedingham Vulcan Foundry Austerity 72 2nd April 77 C3261 Castle Hedingham Barclay ex Chatham Victory and Avonside Barrington ex Rugby Cement May 79 C4493 Castle Hedingham Avonside Barrington May 79 C4496 Castle Hedingham Avonside Barrington May 79 C4497 Castle Hedingham Norwegian coach May 79 C4567 Castle Hedingham Barclay Victory and Hunslet WD190 May 79 C4568 David 41 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
62613 Posted June 29 Share Posted June 29 16 hours ago, brushman47544 said: I couldn’t agree more, and was going to say that places like Halifax and Harrogate were lucky having through coaches to London or other long distance destinations that were worked by Type 2s to where the main train was formed with Type 4 or 5 motive power. Now it’s just A to B and often poor connections from stations off the main route. Not an improvement in my opinion, especially for people for whom changing trains is not an easy task. I can remember Huddersfield had a train to KX in the late 1960s; my school used it on a visit to the museums in South Kensington in 1969. I had a previous visit with a school friend in about 1967 to watch Charlton v Derby at The Valley in 1968. I can't remember whether there were through coaches on that occasion; memory suggests using the Wakefield Kirkgate - Westgate "Flyer", and boarding a Leeds - KX train Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted June 29 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted June 29 Another photo of Dad's at Trumpington, this time in May 1948 David 34 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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