RMweb Gold russ p Posted August 2 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 2 2 hours ago, big jim said: when did the line through chaddesden to the north stop being used (derby avoiding line)? That pic the main line curves to the left beyond the bridge, as it still does, and the line to chaddesden went straight on but there doesn’t appear to be any pointwork or indeed a route indicator on the new colour light signal, i think I can see a signal box and remains of track going straight on though I assume the shorter post on the old semaphores used to go toward there, I’m wondering if it was removed whenever derby was resignalled whenever that was? Morning Jim, I think it was late 60s probably not long before that picture was taken as track still seems to in. I'm not sure but someone on here will know if all the Derby area boxes closed when the powerbox opened A short sighted decision closing that . Save a lot of messing about going on and off RTC 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted August 2 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted August 2 (edited) First many thanks to russ p for the answer to the question about Derby. Having thought about it that fits in with my recollections. By coincidence the next set of photos also begin with S but this time thay are all at Swayfield on Stoke Bank. Swayfield Class 47 1970 09.10 Kings X to Leeds March 72 J2829 Swayfield Class 55 9021 15.25 Leeds to Kings X up May 73 C1248 Swayfield Class 47 11.30 Leeds to Kings X May 74 J3675 Swayfield Class 55 down 30th June 74 C1640 18.04 Kings X to Leeds and Bradford 55018 Swayfield Class 254 HST down Feb 83 C5951 David Edited August 3 by DaveF 43 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted August 2 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 2 Good evening, David. That’s a fantastic set of photo’s of places beginning with S. The last photo’ at Sutton in Ashfield Junction, with Stanier 2-6-4T, 42629, on a Nottingham to Mansfield service, in April, 1964, is a superb composition of the train, and what was once an everyday sight. The photo’s at Swayfield on Stoke Bank are a superb selection, and C1640, of a Class 55 Deltic, on the down 18.04, King’s Cross to Leeds and Bradford, on the 30th June, 1974 C1640, is a most excellent shot and again a Mkll BFK can bevseen marshalled behind the Mkl BG. Very best regards, Rob. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium keefer Posted August 2 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 2 4 hours ago, DaveF said: Swayfield Class 47 1970 09.10 Kings X to Leeds March 72 J2829 Interesting sleepering on the left-hand track - wooden going to concrete and with some sort of rail-joint in the concrete section (insulated joint?) Also interesting for showing (1) the subtle changes of alignment of the l/h track as the formation narrows and (2) the ballast is not continuous - there is an obvious flat 'bed' with separate ballast for each track (presumably because the tracks are so widely spaced) 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barcaldinegoods Posted August 2 Share Posted August 2 10 hours ago, Pyewipe Jct said: Ahem, Riley... [the One-Point-Five sitting outside my window told me I had to say that... 😁] Yes indeed- a Riley One Point Five in what looks like Florentine Blue, a Riley-only colour. I have one too. But to be fair, the differences between the Riley One Point Five and the Wolseley 1500 are subtle from that angle. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Kazmierczak Posted August 2 Share Posted August 2 Just a few more thoughts on David's photo from the front of the DMU approaching Spondon Jn. The direct line into Derby via Chaddesden (the original Midland Counties line) closed as a through route, a couple of months prior to Derby Power Box opening in June/July 1969. The signalbox one can make out in the distance was Turntable Sidings; one of the boxes serving the Chadd Sidings complex. Some signalboxes remained in and around Derby until well into the 1980s; long after colour lights were introduced. They often controlling level crossings and sidings connections, Spondon Station, being an example. Or the well-known box alongside Derby stationitself (Engine Sidings No.2) controlling access to/from Derby holding sidings. 1 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium St Enodoc Posted August 2 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 2 C5951 reminds us why track workers always faced away from a passing passenger train. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donington Road Posted August 3 Share Posted August 3 (edited) 3 hours ago, keefer said: Interesting sleepering on the left-hand track - wooden going to concrete and with some sort of rail-joint in the concrete section (insulated joint?) Also interesting for showing (1) the subtle changes of alignment of the l/h track as the formation narrows and (2) the ballast is not continuous - there is an obvious flat 'bed' with separate ballast for each track (presumably because the tracks are so widely spaced) Probably something like these, hollow steel sleepers used to pass wiring through. Edited August 3 by Donington Road 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted August 3 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted August 3 (edited) Some photos at Blaydon and Derwenthaugh on the south side of the Tyne. Blaydon 37101 eastbound freight Oct 82 C5862 Blaydon Oct 82 C5863 Line in foreground is the line from Newcastle along the north bank of the Tyne which crossed the Tyne at Scotswood Bridge, the line to the left is the line now in use along the south side of the Tyne for the Carlisle trains to reach Newcastle over the King Edward Bridge Blaydon Class 101 Carlisle to Newcastle Oct 82 C5864 Derwenthaugh Class 101 Newcastle to Hexham Jan 84 C6342 Derwenthaugh 37068 coal for Dunston Power station Jan 84 C6343 Derwenthaugh coke works Sentinel shunter and Hunslet Jan 84 C6353 Thanks to Micheal Edge for identifiying the Hunslet. Derwenthaugh coke works 08370 on loan to NCB Jan 84 C6354 David Edited August 3 by DaveF 46 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Michael Edge Posted August 3 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 3 The other is a Hunslet 0-4-0DH but I don’t know what the huge air reservoir was for. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erichill16 Posted August 3 Share Posted August 3 Any idea what’s going on with ‘ano’ in C6353? There appears to be a tank fixed to the running plate above the buffer beam and electrical cables coming out of the cab side. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Michael Edge Posted August 3 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 3 I was wondering if this was a spare to cover failure of the coke car loco, other coking plants often had some sort of backup like this. I’ve not seen a photo like this before though. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium corneliuslundie Posted August 3 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 3 Is it perhaps being used as a static generator, with an extra fuel tank because it is in continuous use? Jonathan 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erichill16 Posted August 3 Share Posted August 3 3 minutes ago, corneliuslundie said: Is it perhaps being used as a static generator, with an extra fuel tank because it is in continuous use? Jonathan But if it’s a hydraulic as Mike say? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium iands Posted August 3 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 3 11 hours ago, keefer said: Interesting sleepering on the left-hand track - wooden going to concrete and with some sort of rail-joint in the concrete section (insulated joint?) Looks like a rail expansion joint. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium corneliuslundie Posted August 3 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 3 DH. A good point. Jonathan 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artless Bodger Posted August 3 Share Posted August 3 C5864, the elevated crane in the left distance, would this be for coal or ash handling at Stella North power station? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artless Bodger Posted August 3 Share Posted August 3 2 hours ago, corneliuslundie said: Is it perhaps being used as a static generator, with an extra fuel tank because it is in continuous use? Jonathan The tank looks like a pressure vessel, the inset inspection doors suggest this. Given the hoses too, has the loco been converted to a mobile compressor / compressed air supply? I've seen somewhere else an old diesel loco engine and frame used in such a way. The tank would be a compressed air reservoir. 3 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium iands Posted August 3 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 3 10 hours ago, Donington Road said: Probably something like these, hollow steel sleepers used to pass wiring through. I think 1970 was a bit early for hollow steel sleepers. 4 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted August 3 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted August 3 37 minutes ago, Artless Bodger said: C5864, the elevated crane in the left distance, would this be for coal or ash handling at Stella North power station? From memory, yes. David. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted August 3 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted August 3 Some old black and white photos taken around Toton for teatime. As usual Dad was using his track permit. Toton 4F down coal c1949 JVol2248 Toton Beyer Garratt 47994 le c1952 JVol4171 Toton Beyer Garratt le c1952 JVol7117 Toton up reception sidings 8F 48604 up goods c1953 JVol7119 Toton yard looking south c1952 JVol2176 David 50 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted August 3 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 3 Good evening, David. That’s a fantastic selection of photo’s at Blaydon and Derwenthaugh, on the south side of the Tyne. The first photo’ of 37101, at Blaydon, on an eastbound freight train, in October, 1982, is a superb three quarter portrait shot of the 37. The engine room door appears to be open. The black and white photo’s from around Toton are an excellent and historical set. The first photo’ of a 4F on a down coal train, in c1949, is a well composed shot, and is a sight that is long gone. Very best regards, Rob. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Pilotman Posted August 3 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 3 On 02/08/2024 at 15:38, DaveF said: Swayfield Class 55 down 30th June 74 C1640 18.04 Kings X to Leeds and Bradford 55018 BALLYMOSS 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
35A Posted August 3 Share Posted August 3 Nice to see some photographs of Garratts in action. You tend not to see very many in photo collections. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold big jim Posted August 3 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 3 On 02/08/2024 at 12:09, russ p said: Save a lot of messing about going on and off RTC Still having the line through chad would save a lot of messing in general, the likes of the Nottingham to Cardiff trains (and vice versa) wouldn’t have to change ends in derby station as they do now 3 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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