hmrspaul Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 56 minutes ago, corneliuslundie said: An interesting horse box in JVol1196. Any thoughts on identity anyone? Jonathan Looks very similar to this NBR livestock van https://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/lnerlivestock/e184a2c87 Paul 2 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted January 20 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 20 Good evening, David. That’s a fantastic set of photo’s of Deltic’s at Swayfield, on the ECML. The first photo’ of Class 55, possibly 9001, on the 12.00 Edinburgh to Kings Cross, in September, 1971, is superb, and I can hear the Deltic as it passes by. The black and white photo’s of Cambridge in 1947 and 1948, are a splendid and historical selection. JVol1211, of a class J39, on a down goods train, in 1948, is a beautifully composed photo’ from track level, which makes the engine look most impressive. With warmest regards, Rob. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium tanatvalley Posted January 20 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 20 2 hours ago, corneliuslundie said: An interesting horse box in JVol1196. Any thoughts on identity anyone? Jonathan LNWR? Alan 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 31A Posted January 20 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 20 (edited) 3 hours ago, corneliuslundie said: An interesting horse box in JVol1196. Any thoughts on identity anyone? Ans a surprise (to me anyway) to see big LMS locos at Cambridge, since the LMS services reaching the town were pretty local services . Or would the goods trains have come from Bletchley? Jonathan Pretty sure the LMS locos would have come from Bletchley via Bedford. Passenger services on that line originated from Oxford and Bletchley, and there was also quite a bit of cross country freight by that route. I have seen pictures of Jubilees and ex LNW Super Ds at Cambridge that had worked over that line. LMS locos also came to Cambridge from Kettering via Huntingdon and St. Ives, but not big locos on that route due to weight restrictions; e.g. on the wooden viaduct at Godmanchester. At the end of steam on the Bletchley line, it was almost entirely Black 5s. Edited January 20 by 31A Additional info. 1 1 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
35A Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 David, Doing some research into the UID Deltic in C1459, I've come up with the following: Surprisingly, all 8 of the Finsbury Park Deltics were available for traffic, throughout January 1974 (C1459 is obviously one of those, from the nameplate style and length). It can't be 9003, 9007, 9009 or 9020. The plate is too long to be 9003 or 9007. 9009 was already carrying the 'domino' headcode modification, by that time. 9020 had been renumbered to 55 020 in November 1973 (most of the rest were renumbered in the last week of January 1974 or the first week of February). Helpfully, there were ASLEF strikes in progress, through December 1973 and January 1974, causing many services to be cancelled (sounds familiar!). There wasn't a lot of work for Deltics to do. Of the other four Finsbury Park Deltics, 9015 and 9018 are not recorded as having worked 1S14 during January 1974 (that doesn't guarantee that they didn't - records, on the "Chronicles", at that time, are taken from observations, rather than TOPS records). There is one record of 9001 "ST. PADDY", on 3rd January and three of 9012 "CREPELLO", on the 14th, 18th and 19th of the month - so, perhaps, that might give you a clue. 6 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Chris Turnbull Posted January 21 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 21 14 hours ago, DaveF said: Cambridge Fowler 4MTT Cambridge to Bletchely c1948 JVol1196 I always wondered what the theatres on those signals displayed. B for Bletchley I assume. Does anyone know what the others were? Chris Turnbull 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted January 21 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted January 21 7 hours ago, 35A said: David, Doing some research into the UID Deltic in C1459, I've come up with the following: Surprisingly, all 8 of the Finsbury Park Deltics were available for traffic, throughout January 1974 (C1459 is obviously one of those, from the nameplate style and length). It can't be 9003, 9007, 9009 or 9020. The plate is too long to be 9003 or 9007. 9009 was already carrying the 'domino' headcode modification, by that time. 9020 had been renumbered to 55 020 in November 1973 (most of the rest were renumbered in the last week of January 1974 or the first week of February). Helpfully, there were ASLEF strikes in progress, through December 1973 and January 1974, causing many services to be cancelled (sounds familiar!). There wasn't a lot of work for Deltics to do. Of the other four Finsbury Park Deltics, 9015 and 9018 are not recorded as having worked 1S14 during January 1974 (that doesn't guarantee that they didn't - records, on the "Chronicles", at that time, are taken from observations, rather than TOPS records). There is one record of 9001 "ST. PADDY", on 3rd January and three of 9012 "CREPELLO", on the 14th, 18th and 19th of the month - so, perhaps, that might give you a clue. Many thanks for this, I'll have to try to work out when I took the photo. I think it was probably the 3rd as I would have been at my parents over New Year. After that I would have gone back to Essex unless for some reason I visited them again one weekend. David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted January 21 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted January 21 (edited) Today we start with a Lincolnshire miscellany. Burgh le Marsh Class 31 up freight Aug 68 J1388 Lincoln Central Class 31 D5554 up freight April 69 J1582 Flixborough BISC line from Scunthorpe Aug 70 J2170 Brocklesby 30th May 91 C15861 Immingham view west Immingham East Junction 30th May 91 C15869 Grimsby 158789 26th July 2000 C25007 David Edited January 21 by DaveF 50 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium iands Posted January 21 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 21 1 hour ago, Chris Turnbull said: B for Bletchley I assume. More likely that 'B' was for Branch. A Sectional Appendix from the period may give the details. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Chris Turnbull Posted January 21 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 21 46 minutes ago, iands said: More likely that 'B' was for Branch. A Sectional Appendix from the period may give the details. Or Bedford, perhaps. I have the Sectional Appendix for 1947 and there's nothing in there. I would have thought the signal box diagram is the place to look. Chris Turnbull 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffP Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 J2170, the chimneys of John Lysaght's or Normanby Park steelworks in the background. Long gone. In those days Scunthorpe had three large steelworks and one or two smaller, employing around 24,000 men. Town was booming, if a little dirty. Calls for the council to attract other industries were treated with derision. Now we have one medium sized works employing around 6000 men, we no longer make our own coke for iron making, so the "four queens", the blast furnaces that make virgin iron, are also under threat.😒 Still, we can make poor quality steel from scrap, and it'll improve our net zero standing... 1 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 31A Posted January 21 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 21 3 hours ago, Chris Turnbull said: I always wondered what the theatres on those signals displayed. B for Bletchley I assume. Does anyone know what the others were? Chris Turnbull It's a very long time since I used to lean against those railings and watch the trains (even longer since those signals were replaced by a colour light), but I think it said B (for Branch) or M (for Main), 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium corneliuslundie Posted January 21 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 21 3 hours ago, DaveF said: Brocklesby 30th May 91 C15861 That would make a great model, especially those chimneys. Anyone fancy a challenge? (a bit far from Wales for me). Jonathan 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoke West Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 3 hours ago, DaveF said: Today we start with a Lincolnshire miscellany. Burgh le Marsh Class 31 up freight Aug 68 J1388 Lincoln Central Class 31 D5554 down freight April 69 J1582 Flixborough BISC line from Scunthorpe Aug 70 J2170 Brocklesby 30th May 91 C15861 Immingham view west Immingham East Junction 30th May 91 C15869 Grimsby 158789 26th July 2000 C25007 David J1582 should that be an UP freight , a crippled tippler run hot , and lots of van traffic 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted January 21 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted January 21 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Stoke West said: J1582 should that be an UP freight , a crippled tippler run hot , and lots of van traffic I'm not sure how I got that wrong, I used to work just outside Lincoln and went there quite often but didn't take many photos. David Edited January 21 by DaveF 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted January 21 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted January 21 I looked at the rain and wind outside and thought it would be nice to think of more pleasant days in summer and autumn when you could visit a seaside pier and perhaps go for a day trip on a steamer. Southend Pier July 1975 C2190 Southend Pier October 1974 J4080 Southend Pier October 1974 J4079 Southend Pier PS Waverley May 79 C4471 Southend Pier PS Waverley May 79 C4472 David 48 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium corneliuslundie Posted January 21 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 21 !it would be nice to think of more pleasant days in summer and autumn! Yes. Many thanks for the photos. Jonathan 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium John Besley Posted January 21 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 21 3 hours ago, DaveF said: Southend Pier PS Waverley May 79 C4471 Southend Pier PS Waverley May 79 C4472 David What's with the red, white and black bobble hats.... how many can you count Intresting to see how clothing styles have changed over the years as well 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt37268 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 33 minutes ago, John Besley said: What's with the red, white and black bobble hats.... how many can you count Intresting to see how clothing styles have changed over the years as well Manchester United were in town maybe? 🤔 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium brushman47544 Posted January 21 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 21 19 hours ago, 35A said: David, Doing some research into the UID Deltic in C1459, I've come up with the following: Of the other four Finsbury Park Deltics, 9015 and 9018 are not recorded as having worked 1S14 during January 1974 (that doesn't guarantee that they didn't - records, on the "Chronicles", at that time, are taken from observations, rather than TOPS records). There is one record of 9001 "ST. PADDY", on 3rd January and three of 9012 "CREPELLO", on the 14th, 18th and 19th of the month - so, perhaps, that might give you a clue. 12 hours ago, DaveF said: Many thanks for this, I'll have to try to work out when I took the photo. I think it was probably the 3rd as I would have been at my parents over New Year. After that I would have gone back to Essex unless for some reason I visited them again one weekend. David My money’s on 9012. This photo is taken a couple of months later but the weathering looks similar if cleaner - in particular the oil stain to the left of the nameplate. 9 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium figworthy Posted January 21 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 21 57 minutes ago, John Besley said: What's with the red, white and black bobble hats.... how many can you count They match the colours on the funnels. Adrian 4 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted January 21 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 21 Good evening, David. The Lincolnshire miscellany set of photo’s are a superb set. C15861, at Brocklesby, on the 30th May, 1991, is fantastic, and, as mentioned, it would make a great model, especially with the weathered roofs and boarded up windows, etc., The photo’s of Southend Pier, are a delightful selection, and the perfect antidote to the appalling weather. C4471, of PS Waverley, in May, 1979, being a particularly superb portrait of Waverley. With warmest regards, Rob. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lazythread Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 C13934 - the pigeon van lives on in preservation and has been restored on the North Yorkshire Moors Railway. It's number is 70754. 2 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted January 22 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted January 22 (edited) The Great Central for this morning. Two photos when it was a working railway, one after closure and some preserved ones. Pilsley 9F 92158 up coal May 64 J124 Nottingham Victoria clocktower Sept 70 C5502 East Leake Class 115 Rugby to Nottingham Victoria April 66 J457 Quorn NSB 377 King Haakon VII Loughborough to Rothley 6th Sept 75 C2432 Quorn Class 5 5231 Sept 76 C3017 Rothley N2 4744 running round Aug 78 C4114 David Edited January 22 by DaveF To add a photo 48 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Johann Marsbar Posted January 22 Popular Post Share Posted January 22 Quorn has changed a bit in those 49 years (though it was only 44 years when I took this one)...... 31 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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