RMweb Gold DaveF Posted November 17, 2023 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted November 17, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, JeffP said: Was the train stopped? His position looks like he's climbing in, or out. The train was slowing down to stop at the staion, I took the phot from the platform. 1 hour ago, Southernman46 said: It's probably the Secondman and about to collect a single line token ? It was the secondman. 15 minutes ago, Stoke West said: Box gone by that time note bare signal post , platform would be on trains right behind Dave with level crossing at far end of platform . Ready to drop off to open gates , train men operated , but why not alight onto platform By then the loop (there were two platorms) had been removed, and there were no signals. The crossing was ungated but trains had to stop at the stop board seen in the second photo and obtain permission to proceed, the crossing lights also had to be activated. I assume thew secondman got out on the left side as that is where to Stop board is situated. I have to admit that my main memory of stopping there that day was seeing a car having problems - it was a Saab 96 stuck in third gear and he was driving to find a garage. Saab 96's had a steering column mounted gearchange (I know becaaue I used to drive one) and if they became troublesome they could be a nightmare. I had a go at freeing it but couldn't persuade it to work so he continued on his journey. Hence my memory of exactly what happened on the railway that day is a bit hazy. David Edited November 17, 2023 by DaveF 9 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted November 17, 2023 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted November 17, 2023 A few photos between Derby and Lincoln come next. Spondon Class 120 Lincoln to Crewe 8th Aug 77 C3414 Nottingham Class 104 Derby to Lincoln July 76 C2883 Nottingham London Road Junction and London Road low level Jan 69 J1545 The old London Road low level station on the left, the line to Melton went off to the right, the line to Lincoln goes behind the signalbox. Fiskerton Class 120 Lincoln to Crewe Jan 80 C4943 Lincoln St Marks Class 120 ecs in siding 13th Aug 77 C3501 David 46 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium St Enodoc Posted November 17, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 17, 2023 35 minutes ago, DaveF said: Spondon Class 120 Lincoln to Crewe 8th Aug 77 C3414 The smell from the old British Celanese works at Spondon was always the cue to put your coat on ready to alight at Derby. 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted November 17, 2023 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted November 17, 2023 (edited) Some more black and white photos with 4 on the Great Central around Rugby Central and one on the WCML at Rugby troughs. As usual some were taken using his track permit. Rugby Central B1 ex pass Manchester to Marylebone c1953 JVol3075 Rugby Central O4 63641 down goods driver examining motion July 50 1 100 f8 Ilford HP3 JVol6076a Rugby Central O4 up goods c1952 JVol5038 Rugby Central V2 down ex pass c1952 JVol2057 Rugby Troughs Rebuilt Patriot up ex pass Royal Scot down ex pass c1952 JVol2126 David Edited November 17, 2023 by DaveF 51 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted November 17, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 17, 2023 Good evening, David. That’s a great selection of photo’s from between Derby and Lincoln. C4943, is a superb photo’ at Fiskerton, with a Class 120, on a Lincoln to Crewe service, in January, 1980. You can see some of the interior lights. The black and white photo’s, with four on the Great Central about Rugby Central, and one on the WCML at Rugby troughs, are an excellent and historic set. JVol2057, at Rugby Central, with a V2, on a down express passenger train, in c1952, is a real gem. An interesting formation, with three Gresley carriages leading, then two LMS carriages, followed by what appears to be a former GW Collett carriage, and then more LMS carriages. With warmest regards, Rob. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted November 18, 2023 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted November 18, 2023 (edited) A few Bluebell Railway photos this morning from vistis on Boxing Day in 1975, 6 and 8. When I lived in Essex Mum and Dad always visited me for Christmas, every year we went ot the Bluebell to photograph and ride on their Boxing Day services. Horsted Keynes SECR Class C 592 26th Dec 76 C3145 Holywell USA 30064 Sheffield Park to Horsted Keynes 26th Dec 76 C3147 Holywell SECR Class C 592 Sheffield Park to Horsted Keynes 26th Dec 76 C3150 Holywell USA 30064 Horsted Keynes to Sheffield Park 26th Dec 76 C3153 Sheffield Park SECR Class C 592 Dec 75 C2542 Sheffield Park SECR CLass P 323 Bluebell and SR U 1618 Sheffield Park to Horstead Keynes 26th Dec 78 C4231 Sheffield Park SECR CLass P 323 Bluebell and SR U 1618 Sheffield Park to Horstead Keynes and SECR 263 26th Dec 78 C4232 David Edited November 18, 2023 by DaveF 45 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted November 18, 2023 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted November 18, 2023 (edited) On the ECML between Morpeth and Newcastle at Killingworth, Dudley and Morpeth. Killingworth 143014 Morpeth to Newcastle 23rd Dec 87 C9305 Killingworth 47458 down special 23rd Dec 87 C9307 Dudley foot crossing Class 156 Newcastle to Morpeth 22nd Feb 01 C25256 Morpeth 37253 light engine Dec 83 C6328 B&T yard to left, ECML in distance. Morpeth Class 101 emergency service Morpeth to Newcastle via Blyth and Tyne 25th June 84 C6570 Train is going away. David Edited November 18, 2023 by DaveF 44 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artless Bodger Posted November 18, 2023 Share Posted November 18, 2023 Nice to see photos of 1618 in action. I remember summer Wednesday evenings, going into the Blackhorse yard at APM New Hythe where it was stored after leaving Barry to help in the early days of its restoration. 1968 when I changed schools and 1969, I could only go when we had no homework set, from 2nd year onwards we had homework every night of the week. With thin arms I got the job of scraping congealed grease and dirt off the inner surfaces of the tender frames, then laying under the tank with a wire brush removing rust. At least I didn't have to get inside the tender tank, or the firebox. Used to use the Reed's yard gang wash room after to get all the crud off before catching the train home. Rather lost track of it after that, I think it went to Tenterden first before the Bluebell. Most of the group working on it at APM were K&ESR stalwarts. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted November 18, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 18, 2023 Good evening, David. That’s a great selection of photo’s of the Bluebell Railway, on Boxing Day in 1975, 1976 and 1978. C2542, at Sheffield Park, with SECR Class C, 592, on December, 26th, 1975, is a particularly photogenic shot and is expertly composed. The photo’s of the ECML between Morpeth and Newcastle at Killingworth, Dudley and Morpeth, are a superb set. C9307, at Killingworth, of 47458, on a down special, on the 23rd December, 1987, is a delightful photo’ of the 47, in the low light levels of December. With warmest regards, Rob. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted November 19, 2023 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted November 19, 2023 Anoher mixed bag this morning. I woke late today and this is the first chance I've had to post anything. The first three are Dad's, all in the information I have is in the captio. The last two were also taken by Dad but I was there. The Class 45 had become derailed on a turnout while shunting at the plasterboard sidings at Hotchley Hill, by Ruschcliffe Halt on the Great Central north of Loughborough. The Class 44 was on the breakdown train. The loco was rerailed using traversing jacks. Hayfield GCR June 69 J1737 Hazelwell MR Bristol to Birmingham line April 71 J2628 Hinckley Class 46 D178 down l e May 69 J1693 Hotchley Hill Class 45 D18 derailed July 71 J2712 Hotchley Hill Class 44 D8 on breakdown train July 71 J2720 David 53 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
43110andyb Posted November 19, 2023 Share Posted November 19, 2023 one for the ‘when the real thing looks like a model’ page! 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted November 19, 2023 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted November 19, 2023 Two photos of Great Eastern electrics on the line to Southend Victoria and three on the Southern at Teynham. Downham 307123 Liverpool St to Southend Victoria Jan 77 C3168 Downham 307103 Southend Victoria to Liverpool St Jan 77 C3169 Teynham Class 73 up parcels May 77 C3337 Teynham Class 419 leading up ex pass May 77 C3338 Teynham down 14th Jan 78 C3645 David 45 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted November 19, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 19, 2023 Good evening, David. That’s a great mixed bag of photo’s. The last photo’ at Hotchley Hill, with Class 44, D8, on the breakdown train, in July, 1971, being a superb photo’, and the formation of the train is well captured. The photo’s of Great Eastern electrics on the line to Southend Victoria, and the Southern at Teynham, are a fantastic set. C3337, at Teynham, with a Class 73, on an up parcels train, in May, 1977, being a delightful shot in the May sunshine. With warmest regards, Rob. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted November 20, 2023 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted November 20, 2023 (edited) We start today in Nordhausen, which was in East Germany. It is the southern terminus of the Harzquerbahn as well as having being on the standard gauge line from Kassel to Halle. The photos are all of standard gauge in August 1992. Nordhausen 346 988 7th Aug 92 C17499 Nordhausen 202 245 7th Aug 92 C17501 Nordhausen 310 944 7th Aug 92 C17524 Nordhausen 346 428 7th Aug 92 C17528 Nordhausen 204 820 7th Aug 92 C17530 David Edited November 20, 2023 by DaveF 43 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted November 20, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 20, 2023 C3337 may well be paper train empties returning to London for the next night. It was not far from there that a couple of vans declared UDI one night, detached themselves, and ended up in a farmer's orchard. The train stopped in a hurry, of course, but the guard failed to realise what had happened and the train restarted. Cue several disgruntled newsagents in Thanet, and a bit of a hue and cry the next day..... 6 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southernman46 Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 (edited) On 20/11/2023 at 09:56, Oldddudders said: C3337 may well be paper train empties returning to London for the next night. It was not far from there that a couple of vans declared UDI one night, detached themselves, and ended up in a farmer's orchard. The train stopped in a hurry, of course, but the guard failed to realise what had happened and the train restarted. Cue several disgruntled newsagents in Thanet, and a bit of a hue and cry the next day..... Indeed it happened - had the story related to me by the driver in the "Green Lion" at Rainham some years after - ISTR it was between Newington & Rainham & was a pair of 12t vans - the guard presented with a just flapping vac pipe and NO other indication the two vehicles had departed the train just stuck it straight back on the stand C3337 is a very late evening shot - these empties called at Gillingham around 20:30 to pick up the 5-6 parcels CCT's that had been tripped earlier in the evening from Chatham Down siding. wrong info Edited November 25, 2023 by Southernman46 5 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted November 20, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 20, 2023 5 minutes ago, Southernman46 said: Indeed it happened - had the story related to me by the driver in the "Green Lion" at Rainham some years after - ISTR it was between Newington & Rainham & was a pair of 12t vans - the guard presented with a just flapping vac pipe and NO other indication the two vehicles had departed the train just stuck it straight back on the stand C3337 is a very late evening shot - these empties called at Gillingham around 20:30 to pick up the 5-6 parcels CCT's that had been tripped earlier in the evening from Chatham Down siding. ISTR the guard had had the presence of mind to stick his Bardic lamp with a red aspect on the back.... He ought to have been alerted by the flailing pipe and missing tail-lamp. No doubt he heard all about it the next day, and forever from colleagues.... 7 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted November 20, 2023 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted November 20, 2023 1 hour ago, Southernman46 said: Indeed it happened - had the story related to me by the driver in the "Green Lion" at Rainham some years after - ISTR it was between Newington & Rainham & was a pair of 12t vans - the guard presented with a just flapping vac pipe and NO other indication the two vehicles had departed the train just stuck it straight back on the stand C3337 is a very late evening shot - these empties called at Gillingham around 20:30 to pick up the 5-6 parcels CCT's that had been tripped earlier in the evening from Chatham Down siding. I don't like to contradict you but C3337 was taken lunchtime/early afternoon, it is likely to be the 11.55 Margate to Bricklayers Arms up empties. The shadows are about right for that time of day at Teynham. Also the next batch of photos I took were on the same day at the Sittingbourne and Kemsley. David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
62613 Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 23 hours ago, 43110andyb said: one for the ‘when the real thing looks like a model’ page! Cycled on there a couple of times - now the Sett Valley Trail 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium St Enodoc Posted November 20, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 20, 2023 5 hours ago, Oldddudders said: ISTR the guard had had the presence of mind to stick his Bardic lamp with a red aspect on the back.... He ought to have been alerted by the flailing pipe and missing tail-lamp. No doubt he heard all about it the next day, and forever from colleagues.... Wouldn't the guard have entered the consist in his journal? 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted November 20, 2023 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted November 20, 2023 Some WCML electrics between 1969 and 1979. Weedon Class 86 Manchester to Euston Aug 69 J1808 Weedon Class 86 E3185 Manchester to Euston Oct 70 J2406 Stowe Hill Tunnel Class 85 E3072 Liverpool to Euston Oct 70 J2405 Norton Bridge Class 86 up XP May 76 J5231 Norton Bridge Class 87 up ex pas August 79 C4807 David 44 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southernman46 Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 6 hours ago, DaveF said: I don't like to contradict you but C3337 was taken lunchtime/early afternoon, it is likely to be the 11.55 Margate to Bricklayers Arms up empties. The shadows are about right for that time of day at Teynham. Also the next batch of photos I took were on the same day at the Sittingbourne and Kemsley. David No - you are absolutely correct - sun is right for mid-morning - got my E & W mixed up - will be that train 👍 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted November 20, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 20, 2023 Good evening, David. That’s a fantastic set of photo’s of Nordhausen, which was in East Germany, on the 7th August, 1992. C17524, of 310 944, is an excellent photo’, and what a remarkable looking locomotive it was. The photo’s of WCML electrics, between 1969 and 1979, are a great selection. The first photo’ at Weedon, with a Class 86, on a Manchester to Euston express train, in August, 1969, being a superb and expertly composed photo”. With warmest regards, Rob. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted November 21, 2023 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted November 21, 2023 Another random selection for this morning, mainly places not often photographed. Clifton Mill LNWR embankment of LNWR Rugby to Peterborough line May 71 J2646 Ellistown colliery Aug 71 J2755 Ellistown colliery Aug 71 J2756 Oldcoates South Yorkshire Joint Railway April 69 J1608 Orgreave Colliery Junction NCB 0-6-0DS approaching Jan 79 C4332 Penns MR Nuneaton to Wolverhampton line April 71 J2635 Penns MR Nuneaton to Wolverhampton line bridge over A4097 April 71 J2636 taken from the passenger seat of the car by Dad, Mum was driving. David 48 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium corneliuslundie Posted November 21, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 21, 2023 The colliery pics are really useful from a modelling perspective. Obviously, now, I can see that the building I built for the club layout is far too smart. Jonathan 4 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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