Dave F's photos - ongoing - more added each day

[DaveF]

Some WCML photos between Oxenholme and Tebay.  After looking at these photos no one should complain about manufacturers not getting the same shade of grey or maroon on their coaches - there really was a lot of variation.

 

 

Docker Virgin Class 87 down ex pass 19th July 03 C26306

 

 

Grayrigg Class 47 D1839 up ex pass April 68 J1251

 

 

Beckfoot Class 47 D1619 Glasgow to Liverpool April 68 J1255

 

 

Beckfoot 158750 Edinburgh to Manchester Airport 11th April 95 C20062

 

 

Low Gill Class 25 up car flats Feb 73 C1203

 

 

Dillicar troughs Class 47 Glasgow to Birmingham Aug 65 J303

 

 

David

[keefer]

J2351: 1S20 - SuX 10.10 KX-Edinburgh (SuO to Aberdeen except w/e 6 & 13/9,  to Edinburgh)

J2431: 1L13 - SuX 11.30 KX-Leeds & Harrogate

[65179]

3 hours ago, corneliuslundie said:

"What about Scarborough to Holyhead in a 150/2?"

I believe that at one time there was a through working of a first generation DMU from Skegness to Pwllheli, though not shown as such in the public timetables. I used the part of the service between either Birmingham NS or Shrewsbury and Barmouth, if the story was correct. But it may have ben a myth.

J

 

A bit late for a first generation DMU, but Central Trains definitely continued the trend that Regional Raileays started and strung together some of their routes to produce interesting long distance workings.  I'm struggling to remember details from that period, but something like you suggest would have been perfectly possible prior to the loss of the Welsh routes (the Wikipedia page on Central Trains mentions Aberystwyth-Grimsby for example).

 

Simon

[Market65]

Good evening, David. That’s an excellent selection of photo’s of Butterley, in 1975, and 1976. In C2688, that’s a superb portrait shot of 16440, in April, 1976, and you can see where Hornby got the idea of a red Jinty from.

 

The photo’s of Church Lane crossing, on the Great Eastern are a superb set. In C2084, with a Class 47, on a down express passenger train, in June, 1975, you have taken an excellent and well composed shot, with the zoom emphasising different aspects of the train, including the droopy tops to the cabsides.

 

What a splendid selection of photo’s of the ECML at Corby Glen and Claypole. In the last photo’, at Claypole, with Class 55, 9006, on a down express, train 1L13, the SuX 11.30 King’s Cross to Leeds & Harrogate, in October, 1970, you have taken a delightful shot of the Deltic hauled train. 

 

Finally, the photo’s of the WCML photo’s between Oxenholme and Tebay, are a superb set. In C1203, at Low Gill, with a Class 25, on an up train of car flats, in February, 1973, you have taken a shot which is dramatic and atmospheric with the low sun, blue sky, snow and mountains.
 

With warmest regards,

 

Rob.

[corneliuslundie]

C1203 and J303 are really beautiful. Oh to be able to model something like that.

Jonathan

[Davexoc]

10 hours ago, DaveF said:

Church Lane level crossing Class 47 down ex pass June 75 C2084

 

Low Gill Class 25 up car flats Feb 73 C1203

 

Two cracking photos with excellent composition and lighting.....

[DaveF]

On the Blyth and Tyne agaoin for this morning.    Note that the last two photos show the same train at North Blyth.  As far as I remember they were both taken with Canon slrs one I think is on Agfa film, the other on Fuji.  I am including them to show the slight difference in colour rendition to illsustrate the point that you cen never rely of colour film (or computer monitors) to display the colours exactly as they are.

 

I wonder which one is "correct"?

 

Isabella sidings 37199 and NCB shunter collecting wagons on closure of Bates Pit.  6th April 85 C6763

 

 

Newsham Road crossing 37199 6th April 85  C6772  on the line to Bates pit.

 

 

Newsham Road crossing view north 22nd Jan 91  C15553  on the line to the site of Bates Pit when work was being done to reopen it to take coal to the elevators for export.

 

 

North Blyth 56133 28th March 89 C11794

 

 

North Blyth 56133 28th March 89 J9853

 

David

[brushman47544]

18 hours ago, DaveF said:

Some WCML photos between Oxenholme and Tebay.  After looking at these photos no one should complain about manufacturers not getting the same shade of grey or maroon on their coaches - there really was a lot of variation.

 

Beckfoot Class 47 D1619 Glasgow to Liverpool April 68 J1255

 

Dillicar troughs Class 47 Glasgow to Birmingham Aug 65 J303

 

 

David

In these two photos J1255 and J303, the two coaches that appear to be in a much lighter maroon look like the ends are also maroon as opposed the black. Wasn’t there a difference in how such coaches were painted? IIRC those with red ends were sprayed and this made for a thinner and lighter coat. Happy to be corrected though.

[DaveF]

A few more photos of electrics around Hillmorton now.

 

 

Hillmorton Class 86 up ex pass May 70 J2108

 

 

Hillmorton Class 86 probably an ecs movement May 70 J2112

 

 

Hillmorton Class 86 Euston to Liverpool May 72 J2950

 

 

Hillmorton Class 87 up June 75 J4358

 

Hillmorton Class 86 Manchester to Euston July 79 J6568

 

David

[keefer]

Re: the hoppers at North Blyth, was this the last unfitted service on the Network?

[russ p]

31 minutes ago, keefer said:

Re: the hoppers at North Blyth, was this the last unfitted service on the Network?

Can't remember if it was this or one at Immingham but I'm sure was in last two

[DaveF]

51 minutes ago, keefer said:

Re: the hoppers at North Blyth, was this the last unfitted service on the Network?

 

19 minutes ago, russ p said:

Can't remember if it was this or one at Immingham but I'm sure was in last two

 

 

Locally everyone said the North Blyth flow was the last but I cannot remember the exact date it ended.

 

David

[DaveF]

Another look at Switzerland, this time we are in Lausanne on 4th August 1988.

 

 

Lausanne BDe4/4 1624 Lausanne to Geneve 4th Aug 88 C10114

 

 

Lausanne Ee3/3 16421 and Re4/4ii 11109 Zurich Flughafen to Geneve Aeroport 4th Aug 88 C10116

 

 

Lausanne Re4/4ii 11109 Zurich Flughafen to Geneve Aeroport 4th Aug 88 C10118

 

 

Lausanne RBDe4/4 2103 Fribourg to Morges 4th Aug 88 C10119

 

 

Lausanne Ae/66 11485 westbound freight 4th Aug 88 C10126

 

David

[corneliuslundie]

Did you ever get to the other Lausanne station before it closed?

 

 

I had enjoyable ride up part of the line but didn't have time to do the whole branch. I think the station has now closed and the ttrains run into the main station.

Jonathan

[DaveF]

7 minutes ago, corneliuslundie said:

Did you ever get to the other Lausanne station before it closed?

 

 

I had enjoyable ride up part of the line but didn't have time to do the whole branch. I think the station has now closed and the ttrains run into the main station.

Jonathan

 

I saw parts of the line in 1978 but didn't get to the station.

 

David

[DaveF]

Lastly for today Peascliife Tunnel and Barkston.

 

 

Peascliffe Tunnel 31209 up bullion July 83 C6115

 

 

Barkston Class 47 D1977 down  Sept 68 J1405  Headcode not working, apparently only one lamp over front left  buffer, which should be a Class J mineral or empty wagons i.e. unbraked frreight.

 

 

Barkston Class 47 D1794 up cartics Sept 68 J1421

 

 

Barkston Class 47 D1774 up cartics April 69 J1652

 

 

Barkston Class 114 Boston to Grantham going away

 

David 69 J2031

[Market65]

Good evening, David. That’s a fantastic set of photo’s of the Blyth and Tyne. In the first photo’ of Isabella sidings, with 37199 and an NCB shunter collecting wagons, on closure of Bates Pit, on the 6th April, 1985, it’s a well composed shot of a busy scene on that sad day. It’s s hard to say which of the last two photo’s shows the colours most accurately. I am not able to say much, but yours appears to have slightly better contrast and saturation. 

 

The photo’s of electrics around Hillmorton are superb. In J2950, of a Class 86, working a London Euston to Liverpool express train in May, 1972, your Dad has taken a most striking head on shot. 

 

In the photo’s of Switzerland, in Lausanne, on the 4th August, 1988, that’s a splendid selection. In the last photo’ of Ae/66, 11485, on a westbound freight train, you have taken a beautifully composed shot of the quite short train.

 

Finally, the photo’s of Peascliffe Tunnel and Barkston, on the ECML, are a fantastic set. In J1405, at Barkston, with a Class 47, D1977, on a down service, in September, 1968, on enlarging the photo’, it can be seen that there is only the one headlamp. I’m wondering if that’s all that was available on failure of the headcode box. 
 

With warmest regards,

 

Rob.

[Davexoc]

14 hours ago, DaveF said:

North Blyth 56133 28th March 89 C11794

 

 

North Blyth 56133 28th March 89 J9853

 

Looking on my monitor, I would say somewhere between the two might just be nearer the true colour. I think C11794 looks a bit yellow, especially the greys, but the sea looks right. J9853 the sea looks too blue, a bit like on a postcard, but the greys of the hoppers look better. But then I bet if you printed them they would look different again.... Doh...

[DaveF]

Today we start with another batch of photos from the High Dyke branch at Skillington Junction.  The first five show Class 31s on iron workings in BR days.

 

The last photo was after BR had closed the branch when preserved locos used the line for interchange traffic with BR, in this case ballast empties.

 

 

Skillington Junction Class 31 up iron ore Aug 71 C702

 

 

Skillington Junction Class 31 up iron ore Aug 71 J2757

 

 

Skillington Junction Class 31 up iron ore June 72 C0990

 

 

Skillington Junction Class 31 5673 up iron ore July 72 C1024

 

 

Skillington junction Class 31 5673 up iron ore July 72 J2995

 

 

Skillington  Junction Class 03 D2381 and Primrose No 2 empties Market Overton to High Dyke Feb 74 J3552

 

David

 

 

[Stoke West]

18 minutes ago, DaveF said:

Today we start with another batch of photos from the High Dyke branch at Skillington Junction.  The first five show Class 31s on iron workings in BR days.

 

The last photo was after BR had closed the branch when preserved locos used the line for interchange traffic with BR, in this case ballast empties.

 

 

Skillington Junction Class 31 up iron ore Aug 71 C702

 

 

Skillington Junction Class 31 up iron ore Aug 71 J2757

 

 

Skillington Junction Class 31 up iron ore June 72 C0990

 

 

Skillington Junction Class 31 5673 up iron ore July 72 C1024

 

 

Skillington junction Class 31 5673 up iron ore July 72 J2995

 

 

Skillington  Junction Class 03 D2381 and Primrose No 2 empties Market Overton to High Dyke Feb 74 J3552

 

David

 

 

J3552 DW80156 is wrongly branded it could get overloaded its a Ling 14T loading , Grampus are 20T  loading although ive seen many going onto the tip piled high with ballast and digout , good job they weren't weighed

[corneliuslundie]

Re the two photos, I notice that the angle of the sun is quite low. Note the shadow of a pole in the first one. The colour of the loco and train seem to me compatible with the warm low angle sunlight. I think when the second photo was taken the sun may have been masked by a light cloud as there is no shadow of the post even though the train has not moved. So the daylight is not so warm.

So not just the film but also the lighting conditions to consider. And i really wouldn't like to guess which is the more accurate rendering.

Jonathan

[Fat Controller]

22 hours ago, russ p said:

Can't remember if it was this or one at Immingham but I'm sure was in last two

The wagons were the last unbraked wagons to be built to be worked over BR lines. I believe they appeared in 1971.

[DaveF]

Photos from Teesside next.

 

 

Tees Yard Class 142 down pass 14th April 93 C18446

 

 

Tees Yard 56126 up empty coal 3rd Dec 94 C19883

 

 

Grangetown coke engine and wagon 12th Oct 85 C7220

 

 

Grangetown 20118 & 20137 empty potash, reversing onto main line 20th Feb 88 C9351

 

 

Lackenby BSC  BSC Barclay 0-4-0ST in store Aug 75 C2381

 

 

Lackenby BSC  37506 & 56078 14th April 93 C18526

 

David

[DaveF]

Back to black and white days again in the latr 40s at Cambridge.  Once again Dad was using his track permit.

 

 

Cambridge B1 E1312? 1948 JVol1241

 

 

Cambridge B2 61615 Culford Hall Liverpool St to Cambridge c1948 JVol1206

 

 

Cambridge B17 1665 Leicester City Yarmouth to Liverpool St and F3 7115 1947 JVol1424

 

 

Cambridge E4 2784 l e c1948 JVol7070

 

 

Cambridge Ivatt Class 2  pass  Cambridge to Kettering 1948 JVol1212

 

David

[DaveF]

Lastly for today photos taken at Skipton in January and February 1967.  They were taken with permission.

 

 

Skipton Snowplough DB985225 dmu Skipton to Colne behind Jan 67 J744

 

 

Skipton LMS Class 5 Light engine loco coal wagons and LMS Jinty Jan 67 J742

 

 

Skipton BR Class 4 75019 Jan 67 J759

 

 

Skipton LMS Class 5s 44887 & 45219 Feb 67 J778

 

 

Skipton LMS Class 5s 44887 & 45219 Feb 67 J781

 

David