Dave F's photos - ongoing - more added each day

[New Haven Neil]

Loved the nostalgic model railway photos!

 

You had/have a lot of N gauge Swiss locos on that layout, I find them very attractive but just can't start another branch of the hobby.  I do have a battery powered LGB Re4/4II on my garden railway though, just as a reminder of a super holiday.

 

 

 

[woodenhead]

6 hours ago, DaveF said:

We now leave Scotland and travel to Standon Bridge on the WCML to look at some electrics in June 1976.

 

 

 

Standon Bridge 83006 Motorail Kensington Olympia to Inverness June 76 J5320

 

 

Standon Bridge 86236 up parcels June 76 J5321

 

86036 perhaps?  It's not got flexicoil suspension.

 

22 minutes ago, DaveF said:

The final photos today come from Pilmoor again.  The first four photos were taken during the clearing up operation after the derailment of the cement train in August 1967.

 

Pilmoor Class 20  retrieved cement wagon up on down fast Aug 67 J1061

 

Pilmoor Class 20 up breakdown train travelling on down slow line prior to crossing over August 67 J1064

 

This would be the DP2 crash then?

[43110andyb]

37 minutes ago, DaveF said:

The final photos today come from Pilmoor again.  The first four photos were taken during the clearing up operation after the derailment of the cement train in August 1967.

 

 

Pilmoor A4 4498 Sir Nigel Gresley special Doncaster to Edinburgh Aug 67 J1055

 

 

Pilmoor Class 20  retrieved cement wagon up on down fast Aug 67 J1061

 

 

Pilmoor Class 40 D278 Paignton to Newcastle travelling on up fast line August 67  J1063

 

 

Pilmoor Class 20 up breakdown train travelling on down slow line prior to crossing over August 67 J1064

 

 

Pilmoor Class 47 D1504 Edinburgh to Kings X Sept 67 J1124

 

David

The Thirsk crash was a nasty one at the now Gristhwaite farm access. the picture (courtesy of Alamy) shows the overall scene and it was on the Down lines side. The concrete p-way line side building is still there and there are there are still damaged sleepers to be seen as it’s in a quite remote place. 

[Market65]

Good evening, David. That’s a great selection of photo’s of Princes Street Gardens, Edinburgh. In C7428, of 47702, St Cuthbert, on a Glasgow to Edinburgh working, on the 12th April, 1986, you have taken a well composed shot of the 47.

 

The photo’s of Standon Bridge, on the WCML, with some electrics, in June, 1976, are an excellent set. In J5321, of 86236, on an up parcels train, your Dad has taken a superb, track level shot.

 

What a splendid and atmospheric set of photo’s from Flensburg, in the north of Germany, on the 12th August, 1992. In the first photo’ of the station building, you have taken an excellent shot and it shows plenty of detail of the building.

 

Finally, the photo’s of Pilmoor are a splendid selection, and it’s interesting to see some of what was happening after the crash. In J1063, with class 40, D278, on a Paignton to Newcastle service, travelling on the up fast line, in August, 1967, the first two carriages are Hawkworth’s, a BCK, and an SK, and the third one is a Stanier Plll, SK, and the fourth is a further Stanier Plll, a BCK. The rest are BR Mkl’s. 
 

With warmest regards,

 

Rob.

[DaveF]

1 hour ago, woodenhead said:

86036 perhaps?  It's not got flexicoil suspension.

 

This would be the DP2 crash then?

 

It is definitley a Class 83. it is 83006 as I can read on the original scan.

 

It was the DP2 crash as others above have detailed.

 

David

Edited July 16, 2023 by DaveF

[lazythread]

Hi David, congratulations on reaching 1000 pages.

 

J1055 shows experimental window treatment on BSO E9249 - a very useful colour shot. I am not sure if this was the only coach so treated.

 

Regards

[Davexoc]

1 hour ago, DaveF said:

 

It is definitley a Class 83. it is 83006 as I can read on the original scan.

 

It was the DP2 crash as others above have detailed.

 

David

 

Its this image that is in question. The 86/2 sub-class had flexi-coil springing like the 87s.

 

[woodenhead]

1 hour ago, DaveF said:

 

It is definitley a Class 83. it is 83006 as I can read on the original scan.

 

It was the DP2 crash as others above have detailed.

 

David

Hi David 

 

I forgot to remove the class 83 label, I was referring to the 86 on GUVs labelled 86236, it can’t be an 86/2 as it lacks flexicoil suspension.

[DaveF]

14 minutes ago, Davexoc said:

 

Its this image that is in question. The 86/2 sub-class had flexi-coil springing like the 87s.

 

 

10 minutes ago, woodenhead said:

Hi David 

 

I forgot to remove the class 83 label, I was referring to the 86 on GUVs labelled 86236, it can’t be an 86/2 as it lacks flexicoil suspension.

 

My apologies for creating confusion in my answer, it all makes sense now.  All I can say in my defence is that I had a trying and tiring day - I had to go out after a hurried lunch, hurried because I had electricity while a number of others along the road have no electricity so it all got a bit busy around lunchtime while I was seeing what help they needed.  The power company have now provided them with a generator until they can sort things out.

 

I've altered the caption.

 

David

[david.hill64]

I wish my coach recognition skills were better: there is a fabulous collection of vehicles behind D278 in J1063.

[65179]

51 minutes ago, david.hill64 said:

I wish my coach recognition skills were better: there is a fabulous collection of vehicles behind D278 in J1063.

 

A pair of Hawksworth coaches leading, then a D2159 'Porthole' LMS designed CK, followed by a Mk1...

 

Simon

[russ p]

15 hours ago, DaveF said:

The final photos today come from Pilmoor again.  The first four photos were taken during the clearing up operation after the derailment of the cement train in August 1967.

 

 

Pilmoor A4 4498 Sir Nigel Gresley special Doncaster to Edinburgh Aug 67 J1055

 

 

Pilmoor Class 20  retrieved cement wagon up on down fast Aug 67 J1061

 

 

Pilmoor Class 40 D278 Paignton to Newcastle travelling on up fast line August 67  J1063

 

 

Pilmoor Class 20 up breakdown train travelling on down slow line prior to crossing over August 67 J1064

 

 

Pilmoor Class 47 D1504 Edinburgh to Kings X Sept 67 J1124

 

David

 

Interesting pictures David,  they wouldn't have it opened so soon these days.

Had they stopped running via ripon by this time on the reopened Leeds Northern? 

[DaveF]

47 minutes ago, russ p said:

 

Interesting pictures David,  they wouldn't have it opened so soon these days.

Had they stopped running via ripon by this time on the reopened Leeds Northern? 

 

I think so.  The photos were actually taken the day after Mum Dad and I returned from a holiday staying with friends in France so when we got to Pilmoor we wondered what on earth was going on until we talked to other photgraphers who were there.

 

David

[DaveF]

Hartlebury, Hincaster Junction and Hillmorton this morning.  There isn't any connection between the two, they justy made up a set of five photos.

 

 

Hartlebury down pass 5th April 74 C1528

 

 

Hartlebury up pass 5th April 1972 C1529

 

 

Hillmorton Class 86 E3183 down freightliner Aug 69 J1820

 

 

Hincaster Junction Class 87 up 4th June 76 C2747

 

 

Hincaster Junction Cass 86 86207? down 4th June 76 C2748

 

David

Edited July 17, 2023 by DaveF

[New Haven Neil]

38 minutes ago, DaveF said:

 

I think so.  The photos were actually taken the day after Mum Dad and I returned from a holiday staying with friends in France so when we got to Pilmoor we wondered what on earth was going on until we talked to other photgraphers who were there.

 

David

 

Three friends of mine were supposed to be on that train, on a Railrover holiday - they were chasing DP2 but were late and missed it.  They reckoned they would have been killed as they would have been hanging out of the first window.  Two have now passed on but the third is sometimes active on RMWeb posting interesting photos of the area in that era.  I won't name him directly.

 

 

 

 

[DaveF]

A trip to the Great Eastern for the next set of photos.  We start at Marks Tey and head north to Colchester.  Westerfield is just north of Ipswich on the line to Woodbridge and Lowestoft.

 

 

Marks Tey 309621 up pass Sept 78 C4119

 

 

Marks Tey 37012 up pass May 79 C4556

 

 

Lexden 309622 Liverpool St to Clacton May 83 C6048

 

 

Colchester Class 47 up ex pass May 81 C5365

 

 

Westerfield view north July 75 C2180

 

David

[Chris Turnbull]

18 hours ago, DaveF said:

The final photos today come from Pilmoor again.  The first four photos were taken during the clearing up operation after the derailment of the cement train in August 1967.

 

I went past the site of the accident on 22nd August 1967 and there were still some wagons lying about.  I was on my way to Carlisle: Bury St Edmunds to Newcastle on the Colchester - Glasgow then change for a train across to Carlisle through Haltwhistle.  The journey to Newcastle was memorable, not just because of the remains of accident but because my Mk 1 coach had a wheel-flat (or something) and it was thump, thump, thump all the way.  I was glad when I got to Newcastle!

 

Chris Turnbull 

[DaveF]

On the Midland around Nottingham and on the line south to Melton Mowbray in black and white.

 

 

Beeston Class 5 down pass Leicester to Nottingham from train c1952 JVol2236

 

 

Bennerley Junction from GN viaduct 3F 43560 up coal  and Beyer Garratt c1953 JVol4051

 

 

Emptying a ballast wagon c1952 JVol2188

 

 

Edwalton Jubilee 45607 Fiji up ex pass c1948 JVol7304

 

 

Edwalton LMS compound  41197 up pass 1949 JVol1094

 

David

Edited July 20, 2023 by DaveF

[65179]

1 hour ago, DaveF said:

On the Midland around Nottingham and on the line south to Melton Mowbray in black and white.

 

 

Beeston Class 5 down pass Leicester to Nottingham from train c1952 JVol2236

 

 

Ilkeston Junction from GN viaduct 3F 43560 up coal  and Beyer Garratt c1953 JVol4051

 

 

Emptying a ballast wagon c1952 JVol2188

 

 

Edwalton Jubilee 45607 Fiji up ex pass c1948 JVol7304

 

 

Edwalton LMS compound  41197 up pass 1949 JVol1094

 

David

 

Interesting effect with those two embankment shots. I don't know whether it is because of the juxtaposition of the two images or the contrast on the Compound photo, but at first I thought both 45607 and 41197 had block numbers. On closer inspection only Fiji has block numbers (straw coloured?) and 41197 has gold/yellow numbers in seriffed LMS style.

 

Lots of variation in that period!

 

Simon

[DaveF]

Yorkshire again now with Thorne North, Thorne South and Ulleskelf.

 

 

Thorne North Class 7 D6734 up freight Aug 67 J1077

 

 

Thorne South Class 37 D6870 down ballast Aug 67 J1079

 

 

 

Ulleskelf Class 37 Manchester to York and Class 101 Leeds to York Aug 67 J1071

 

 

Ulleskelf Class 101 down race special Sheffield to York  Aug 67 J1072

 

 

Ulleskelf Class 101 Sheffield to York Sept 67 J1110

 

 

Ulleskelf LMS Class 5 44990 up light engine Sept 67 J1111

 

David

[Market65]

Good afternoon, David. That’s a great set of photo’s of Hartlebury and Hillmorton, and Hincaster Junction. In C1529, at Hartlebury, with a class 116 and a class 101 DMU formation, on an up passenger train, on the 5th April, 1972, it is a well composed shot, and shows the destination blind is missing on the leading car - only two light bulbs are to be seen.

 

The photo’s of Great Eastern, starting at Marks Tey, going north to Colchester, are a delightful selection. In the first photo’, at Marks Tey, with 309621, on an up passenger service, in September, 1978, it is a superb photo’, and shows how adulterated the cab fronts were on the 309’s after the cab front windows were altered for safety reasons.

 

That’s a fascinating set of black and white photo’s of the Midland around Nottingham and on the line south to Melton Mowbray. In JVol4051, at Ilkeston Junction, from the GN viaduct, of class 3F, 43560, on an up coal  train, and a Beyer Garratt, c1953, your Dad has taken a magnificent and somewhat unique photo’, from that vantage point. Details can be seen that are not usually seen from a more conventional viewpoint.

 

Finally, the photo’s of Thorne North, Thorne South and Ulleskelf, are a superb selection. In J1072, at Ulleskelf, with a Class 101 DMCL, leading a down race special, from Sheffield to York, in August, 1967, that’s a splendid photo’, of a hybrid six car unit. Two three car units appear to be the formation, with a class 104 TSL, the second car, and what appears to be another class 101 DMCL. That would make the first three car set be without a guards van.
 

With warmest regards,

 

Rob.

[brushman47544]

Interesting photos at Ulleskelf. The Eastern Region did like their long DMU lash-ups for services that you might reasonably expect to be loco and coaches. And they weren’t fussed about keeping DMU types together either. Manchester to York behind a 37 (as in J1071) is much more favourable.

[31A]

10 hours ago, russ p said:

 

Interesting pictures David,  they wouldn't have it opened so soon these days.

Had they stopped running via ripon by this time on the reopened Leeds Northern? 

 

The Leeds Northern had closed for passengers for about 5 months by then (on 5th March 1967), and at that time was only open for freight between Starbeck and Melmerby, but was still intact throughout and after the accident involving DP2 it was briefly re-opened as a diversionary route!  Equipment such as batteries was installed in the closed signal boxes, and seven signal boxes and two gate boxes were reopened to deal with the diverted traffic, which ran from York via Poppleton and Starbeck.  It seems to have only been used by Down trains on 31st July, 1st and 2nd August after which it went back to being freight only as far as Melmerby again.  As recounted in "Railways Through Harrogate" by Martin Bairstow.

 

[DaveF]

Some photos from a visit to Quainton Road in November 1976 when there were a lot of unrestored and partly restored items.

 

 

Quainton Road Aveling and Porter Sydenham Nov 76 C3096

 

 

Quainton Road  GWR 7715 Nov 76 C3098

 

 

Quainton Road  Nov 76 C3104

 

 

Quainton Road 9466 Nov 76 C3109

 

 

Quainton Road Barclay 0-4-0F and Hudswell Clarke Sir Thomas Nov 76 C3111

 

David

[DaveF]

Along the Weardate line netween Bishop Auickland and Eastgate.  They were all taken on an enthusiats special.

 

 

 Etherley Class 101 North Briton special 23rd May 87 C8488

 

 

Etherley station 23rd May 87 C8492

 

Etherley Class 101 North Britain tour 23rd May 87  C8494

 

 

Wolsingham Class 101 North Briton special  23rd May 87 C8495

 

 

Frosterley Class 101 23rd May 87  C8502

 

 

David