RMweb Gold Market65 Posted December 13, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 13, 2019 Hi, Dave. I like the WCML photo’s from Penrith and Wreay. They are all full of interest, and nostalgia. In C18365, at Penrith, with 86233, on a Edinburgh to Paddington service on the 6th March, 1993, you have captured a fine view of the 86. With warmest regards, Rob. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted December 14, 2019 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted December 14, 2019 Yet another trip to Bottesford today to see more of dad's photos. At one time he lived a few minutes walk from the station so he often took a few photos there if he was at home during the day. Bottesford Class 114 Nottingham to Boston Jan 81 J7320.jpg Bottesford 2 Class 31 up freight June 81 J7510 Bottesford 20077 and ano Leicester to Skegness Sept 82 J7740.jpg Bottesford Class 47 47582 Parkeston Quay to Glasgow The European June 83 J7967.jpg Bottesford Class 114 Grantham to Nottingham and and Glasgow to Parkeston Quay The European July 83 J7997.jpg David 38 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted December 14, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 14, 2019 (edited) Hi, Dave. I like the Bottesford photo’s which are full of interest. In J7510, with two class 31’s on an up freight, in June, 1981, that is such a atmospheric view which I could look at all day. With warmest regards, Rob. Edited December 14, 2019 by Market65 Re-spacing a comma. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Davexoc Posted December 14, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 14, 2019 Right, who can tell me what the seventh wagon is behind those 31s? I see 5 tanks, possibly a grain hopper, something unusual, a van, HTV then MDVs by the look of it..... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Saunders Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 6 minutes ago, Davexoc said: Right, who can tell me what the seventh wagon is behind those 31s? I see 5 tanks, possibly a grain hopper, something unusual, a van, HTV then MDVs by the look of it..... Looks like a Flatrol MJ nuclear flask carrier . 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold russ p Posted December 14, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 14, 2019 21 minutes ago, Mark Saunders said: Looks like a Flatrol MJ nuclear flask carrier . Wonder what that was doing on that service 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodenhead Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 16 minutes ago, russ p said: Wonder what that was doing on that service Testing a new method of keeping the weeds at bay 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted December 14, 2019 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted December 14, 2019 Thanks for the comments about the wagon. I've done a couple of enlargements from my original scan, which may (or may not) help. J7510a J7510b David 4 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
35A Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 J7740 - the second Class 20 would have been 20 016, on the final 1E86 Leicester - Skegness of the 1982 season, on 18th September (according to the RailGen Archive). 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 4 hours ago, russ p said: Wonder what that was doing on that service It would have been normal for flask-carriers to be found in mixed freights at the time, subject to marshalling instructions. What intrigues me, given the late date, is the presence of what appear to be unfitted Class 1 tanks. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Saunders Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 1 minute ago, Fat Controller said: It would have been normal for flask-carriers to be found in mixed freights at the time, subject to marshalling instructions. What intrigues me, given the late date, is the presence of what appear to be unfitted Class 1 tanks. Look like TSVs 35 ton tanks as per the Heljan model and similar to the Airfix kit. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold russ p Posted December 14, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 14, 2019 I thought flask wagons had to be marshalled next to the loco back then. Where the location is I cant imagine it has a flask as I would assume the train has originated from whitemoor and the closest power station is size sizewell and as far as I know traffic from there has always gone via London and WCML 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted December 15, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 15, 2019 10 hours ago, russ p said: I thought flask wagons had to be marshalled next to the loco back then. Where the location is I cant imagine it has a flask as I would assume the train has originated from whitemoor and the closest power station is size sizewell and as far as I know traffic from there has always gone via London and WCML Were they allowed in the same train as tank cars - I seem to recall that was banned for many years. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold russ p Posted December 15, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 15, 2019 14 minutes ago, The Stationmaster said: Were they allowed in the same train as tank cars - I seem to recall that was banned for many years. I was thinking that myself. It depends what's in them I think 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
62613 Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 Is it an empty wagon being used as a barrier between the tanks and the rest of the train? But no barrier between the locos and the tanks, which suggests either that the second loco is the barrier(!) or that the tanks are empty 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold russ p Posted December 15, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 15, 2019 10 minutes ago, 62613 said: Is it an empty wagon being used as a barrier between the tanks and the rest of the train? But no barrier between the locos and the tanks, which suggests either that the second loco is the barrier(!) or that the tanks are empty It can't be a barrier as there isn't one between the loco and the tanks 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted December 15, 2019 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted December 15, 2019 I didn't have a chance to post the usual Sunday morning photos,so here they are now. This time they are from the South Tynedale Railway around Alston and Gilderdale in Cumbria. Alston is England's highest market town. Alston Hunslet 2 Ayle 2nd April 88 C9379 Alston Hunslet The Peril 24th March 89 C11714 Alston Henschel 6 Thomas Edmondson 24th March 89 C11724.jpg Alston Henschel 6 Thomas Edmondson 24th March 89 C11725.jpg Gilderdale Henschel No 6 Thomas Edmondson 14th April 90 C14332.jpg Alston Henschel No 6 Thomas Edmondson 14th April 90 C14339.jpg David 35 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted December 15, 2019 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted December 15, 2019 (edited) A look at the WCML in Scotland, around Abington and Crawford for this afternoon. Abington 37370 and 37399 down cement 29th March 89 C11823.jpg Clitheroe to Gunnie Abington Class 86 up ex pass 24th April 92 C16820.jpg Abington Class 37 up flasks 24th April 92 C16821.jpg Abington Class 87 Euston to Glasgow 26th Feb 93 C18320.jpg Crawford Class 86 up mail 26th Feb 93 C18332.jpg David Edited December 15, 2019 by DaveF 43 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium corneliuslundie Posted December 15, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 15, 2019 Some really great photos. You and your father must have got fit getting to some of those locations. Oh to be able to model a scene like C16821. Jonathan 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 The first train is a Clitheroe - Gunnie cement train. This one seems to consist entirely of cement hopers, but there were also some open hoppers, with clam-shell roof doors, intended to take excess clinker to Gunnie, as the works at Clitheroe didn't have the capacity to mill all it produced. The contract was terminated after a few years, and some of the wagons were sent to Blaydon for a full internal and external clean, whilst more work was sought for them. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
62613 Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 5 hours ago, russ p said: It can't be a barrier as there isn't one between the loco and the tanks Second attempt! I think I more or less said that in my post above yours. I was sking a question. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmsforever Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 Went to Alston not long after they opened although it was in the summer seemed cold, nice town but did not stay long. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted December 15, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 15, 2019 Hi, Dave. I like the South Tynedale Railway photo’s from around Alston and Gilderdale. They are very interesting and show what happened with some of the former railway to Haltwhistle after it was closed down in 1976. They certainly have a good variety of stock, and I particularly like the first photo’ of Alston, with Hunslet number 2, Ayle, on the 2nd April, 1988. A most delightful small locomotive. The WCML photo’s, in Scotland, around Abington and Crawford are delightful and really show off the excellent Scottish scenery. In the last one, at Crawford, with a class 86, on an up mail train, on the 26th February, 1993, the train almost blends into the scenery in a way traffic on a motorway never really seems to be able to. With warmest regards, Rob. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted December 16, 2019 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted December 16, 2019 (edited) DMUs and HSTs at York for today's photos. York 43155 up 13th July 87 C8697.jpg York Class 108 York to Hull July 87 J9075.jpg York 43048 Kings X to Newcastle July 87 J9076.jpg York Class 101 parcels 26th June 88 C9532.jpg York 141113 to Sheffield 3rd June 92 C16890 David Edited December 16, 2019 by DaveF 40 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted December 16, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 16, 2019 Hi, Dave. I like the York photo’s which ooze nostalgia. The last photo’ of 141113, on a Sheffield service, on the 3rd of June, 1992, is a good portrait of the unit, and is a reminder that no services, from today, are worked by Pacer railbuses, to or from York anymore. In J9075, with a unit on a York to Hull service in July, 1987, the unit is not a class 114, heavyweight, but a lightweight, class 108. As always, the bodies are much shorter at 57 feet, and the buffer faces are smaller in diameter. Additionally, there only three large windows between the side doors, as opposed to four on a 114. With warmest regards, Rob. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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