Dave F's photos - ongoing - more added each day

[Market65]

Hi, Dave. Those are a great set of ECML photo’s. The first one at Raskelf, in July, 1966, with Deltic D9018, on a Kings Cross to Edinburgh Waverley express, shows, apart from a fantastic shot of a Deltic hauled express passenger train, some work clearly going on. I just can’t recall what the work was though.

The last photo’ shows a remarkable train, which would make a great model, with a class 31, two Mk1 barrier coaches, and a Mk3 HST TS.

 

With warmest regards,

 

Rob.

[DaveF]

Hi, Dave. Those are a great set of ECML photo’s. The first one at Raskelf, in July, 1966, with Deltic D9018, on a Kings Cross to Edinburgh Waverley express, shows, apart from a fantastic shot of a Deltic hauled express passenger train, some work clearly going on. I just can’t recall what the work was though.

The last photo’ shows a remarkable train, which would make a great model, with a class 31, two Mk1 barrier coaches, and a Mk3 HST TS.

 

With warmest regards,

 

Rob.

 

 

I think it may have just been the remains of the station and goods yard, but cannot really remember.

 

For some reason Dad and I very rarely took photos there.

 

David

[talisman56]

All that knitting up at Morpeth, and only one train had a coat hanger on the roof...

[DaveF]

Today's photos are mainly on the Midland line between Newark and Nottingham.

 

Kirklington and Edingley was on the Midland line from Rolleston Junction through Southwell to Mansfield.

 

 

Kirklington and Edingley trackbed of Southwell to Mansfield line MR Jan 80 C4941

 

 

Gonalston Crossing Class 47 up oil Jan 76 C2579

 

 

Lowdham view north 10th April 90 C14279

 

 

Lowdham Aug 72 J3105

 

 

Sneinton Junction Class 114 Nottingham to Grantham and Class 25 shunting June 78 C3895

 

 

David

[woodenhead]

C3895 - that's how I remember trainspotting - sunny & full of blue trains and locos

[Market65]

Hi, Dave. I like the Midland line photos between Newark and Nottingham. The second one, C2975 at Gonalston Crossing in January, 1976, makes a splendid view of the class 47 on an up,oil train against a typical January sky, with the trees making a stark contrast. I would like to see that translated onto a model, it would, I think, be quite a challenge.

 

With warmest regards,

 

Rob.

[DaveF]

A few more photos from Cottesmore this morning, now better known as Rocks by Rail.

 

 

Cottesmore Barclay Sir Thomas Roydon Aug 83 C6171

 

 

Cottesmore Hawthorn Leslie 3865/1936 'Singapore' Aug 83 C6172

 

 

Cottesmore Hunslet No 24      Aug 83 C6175

 

 

Cottesmore Barclay Salmon parts Peckett Elizabeth GER 6 wheel coach Aug 83 C6176

 

 

Cottesmore Wisbech and Upwell coach body Aug 83 C6178

 

 

David

Edited May 1, 2018 by DaveF

[DaveF]

This afternoon we are at the well known location of Floriston.

 

For those who don't know the place it is a level crossing just south of the Scottish border on the WCML.

 

Mossbank Junction and the MoD at Longtown are just to the north of it.

 

It also sees the traffic to and from the G&SW line to Glasgow and Stranraer.

 

This batch of photos were all taken on 11th April 1986, once again a cloudy day.

 

 

Floriston 47053 down 11th April 86 C7401

 

 

Floriston 86244 up 11th April 86 C7402

 

 

Floriston 86417 up 11th April 86 C7403

 

 

Floriston 47553 up from GSWR 11th April 86 C7404

 

 

Floriston 47053 up l e 11th April 86 C7405

 

 

David

[The Pilotman]

Floriston 47053 down 11th April 86 C7401 

Not the best paint job I’ve ever seen...

[Chris116]

Not the best paint job I’ve ever seen...

Maybe ViTrains applied the yellow ends!

[Market65]

Hi, Dave. I like the Cottesmore Photo's. They show a great variety of stock that was there at the time of the photo's. In particular,  Hunslet No 24, in August,1983, in C6175. It makes quite a sight in bright yellow. The photo's at Floriston, on the WCML, are splendid, and I too have misgivings about that yellow on 47053 in the last photo'. If not ViTrains maybe it is one of Dapols iffy paint jobs! 

 

With warmest regards,

 

Rob.                                                                                               

[45125]

Hi, Dave. I like the Cottesmore Photo's. They show a great variety of stock that was there at the time of the photo's. In particular,  Hunslet No 24, in August,1983, in C6175. It makes quite a sight in bright yellow. The photo's at Floriston, on the WCML, are splendid, and I too have misgivings about that yellow on 47053 in the last photo'. If not ViTrains maybe it is one of Dapols iffy paint jobs! 

 

With warmest regards,

 

Rob.                                                                                               

 

The lack of yellow on 47053 was quite common on some replated 47s.

[jonny777]

Not the best paint job I’ve ever seen...

 

 

 

I will probably get into trouble for saying this, but that looks to me like a colour balance setting error on the scanner. 

 

I can reproduce that kind of "colour scheme" on my film scanner by overdoing the output vs input curves. 

[DaveF]

I will probably get into trouble for saying this, but that looks to me like a colour balance setting error on the scanner. 

 

I can reproduce that kind of "colour scheme" on my film scanner by overdoing the output vs input curves. 

 

 

It wasn't the scanner, the original slide had poor colours - as do almost all my photos of the period.  I was using film marketed by Supasnaps in an attempt to save my money.  It was made by 3M and has proved over the years to have two problems:

 

The first is that it appears that the contrast increases with time - basically the light parts fade more than the dark part and the dark parts seem to go "muddy".

 

The second, and more serious, is that the colours change,  and it takes a lot of work in Photoshop to try to get them anywhere near "correct".

 

Each film I used at this time seems to have a different colour shift, even slides from the same film have varying colour shifts depending on whether they were stored in a projector magazine or a slide box (the very best were in projector magazines).  

 

I can improve the blue in Photoshop by increasing levels of blue and cyan, but it can often make a mess of other colours.

 

I suppose I should be thankful that the slides did not all fade to magenta which many other makes of film tend to do.

 

Another version of the photo is below, though it still leaves the poor yellow paintwork which was certainly quite common at the time together with the original scan and another version.  Also a second version of the other photo of the same loco, which shows ts other end.

 

This is why I always say you should never rely on colour rendition on a slide to give an indication of what a colour was really like.  Using a scanner, Photoshop and then displaying it on a monitor (and most peoples' monitors are not calibrated) often makes the colours even less accurate.

 

 

Floriston 47053 up l e 11th April 86 C7405

 

 

7405 original scan.  The only change made has been to reduce the size to display here.

 

 

7405a  another version

 

 

 

 

 

 

Floriston 47053 down 11th April 86 C7401

 

 

Edited as I forgot to post one of the images.

Edited again to add a couple more versions.

David

Edited April 29, 2018 by DaveF

[35A]

It wasn't the scanner, the original slide had poor colours - as do almost all my photos of the period.  I was using film marketed by Supasnaps in an attempt to save my money.  It was made by 3M and has proved over the years to have two problems:

 

The first is that it appears that the contrast increases with time - basically the light parts fade more than the dark part and the dark parts seem to go "muddy".

 

The second, and more serious, is that the colours change,  and it takes a lot of work in Photoshop to try to get them anywhere near "correct".

 

Each film I used at this time seems to have a different colour shift, even slides from the same film have varying colour shifts depending on whether they were stored in a projector magazine or a slide box (the very best were in projector magazines).  

 

I can improve the blue in Photoshop by increasing levels of blue and cyan, but it can often make a mess of other colours.

 

I suppose I should be thankful that the slides did not all fade to magenta which many other makes of film tend to do.

 

Another version of the photo is below, though it still leaves the poor yellow paintwork which was certainly quite common at the time together with the original scan and another version.  Also a second version of the other photo of the same loco, which shows ts other end.

 

This is why I always say you should never rely on colour rendition on a slide to give an indication of what a colour was really like.  Using a scanner, Photoshop and then displaying it on a monitor (and most peoples' monitors are not calibrated) often makes the colours even less accurate.

 

 

Exactly so, David. I used to use Bonusprint. I also made a couple of schoolboy errors, like using ASA100 film in the early days and getting my prints on matt paper. The latter is not so much a problem where the original negatives are in reasonable condition but it has meant that, where they are not, it is impossible to get a decent scan from the print.

 

Consequently, very few of my shots up to the mid 1970s are anywhere near the quality that you have achieved with your father's and your own pictures. That, in itself, makes this thread a sheer delight to follow on a daily basis, for which I am eternally grateful.

[The Border Reiver]

Floriston crossing was one of my favourite photo locations in the 1960s. Here is a shot of a black 5 on a southbound parcels approaching the crossing in May 1966.

 

 

Edited to add date

Edited April 30, 2018 by The Border Reiver

[The Pilotman]

Sorry David, I seem to have caused a bit of confusion. My remark in post #13130 referred to the first picture of 47053 (the one where you can see lots of bare metal on the loco's front), not the second one (same loco, date, location, but in the opposite direction) where the colour is a bit off because of the film quality. My apologies.

[DaveF]

Sorry David, I seem to have caused a bit of confusion. My remark in post #13130 referred to the first picture of 47053 (the one where you can see lots of bare metal on the loco's front), not the second one (same loco, date, location, but in the opposite direction) where the colour is a bit off because of the film quality. My apologies.

 

 

I got confused too which is why I ended putting versions of both photos on late last night.

 

Both ends actually have poor paintwork.

 

David

[DaveF]

Northumberland again today with some more ECML photos.

 

Many of the photos I am posting now are from the 1980s, so there are more HSTs featured.  The stock of 1960s and 1970s photos is gradually diminishing.

 

The photos are in order heading north.

 

 

Pegswood Class 254 down April 81 C5347

 

 

Longhirst Class 55 Edinburgh to Newcastle Dec 80 C5244

 

 

Acklington Class 254 up Aug 80 C5163

 

 

Buston Barns Class 47 47472 up ecs 19th Oct 85 C7241

 

 

Buston Barns Class 254 down Aberdonian and Class 254 up Flying Scotsman 19th Oct 85 C7239

 

 

David

Edited April 30, 2018 by DaveF

[The Pilotman]

Dave, I reckon the 40 in C5244 is a Deltic. It has a large nameplate in the centre of the body side and would be much more likely to be on air-conditioned stock than a 40.

Edited April 30, 2018 by Western Aviator

[D.Platt]

Nice photos David, perfect timing!

[DaveF]

Dave, I reckon the 40 in C5244 is a Deltic. It has a large nameplate in the centre of the body side and would be much more likely to be on air-conditioned stock than a 40.

 

 

I think you are right.  I have now corrected my notes.

 

Thanks very much.

 

David

[Market65]

Hi, Dave. I like the ECML photo’s from Northumberland in the 1980’s. In the on at Buston Barns, with class 47 47472, on an up empty coaching stock train, on 19th October, 1985, in C7241, I see the Mk1 BG, and BSK were still riding on BR1 bogies.

 

With warmest regards,

 

Rob.

[avonside1563]

A few more photos from Cottesmore this morning, now better known as Rocks by Rail.

 

 

Cottesmore Barclay Sir Thomas Roydon Aug 83 C6171.jpg

Cottesmore Barclay Sir Thomas Roydon Aug 83 C6171

 

 

Cottesmore Peckett Uppingham Aug 83 C6172.jpg

Cottesmore Peckett Uppingham Aug 83 C6172

 

 

Cottesmore Hunslet 24 Aug 83 C6175.jpg

Cottesmore Hunslet No 24      Aug 83 C6175

 

 

Cottesmore Barclay Salmon parts Peckett Elizabeth GER 6 wheel coach Aug 83 C6176.jpg

Cottesmore Barclay Salmon parts Peckett Elizabeth GER 6 wheel coach Aug 83 C6176

 

 

Cottesmore Wisbech and Upwell coach body Aug 83 C6178.jpg

Cottesmore Wisbech and Upwell coach body Aug 83 C6178

 

 

David

Hi David, a small correction to C6172, the loco is actually Hawthorn Leslie 3865/1936 'Singapore' which was delivered new to Singapore RN dockyard and indeed captured by the Japanese in 1942 when they took Singapore. It is reputed to still have evidence of shrapnel damage sustained during the heavy fighting.

[DaveF]

Hi David, a small correction to C6172, the loco is actually Hawthorn Leslie 3865/1936 'Singapore' which was delivered new to Singapore RN dockyard and indeed captured by the Japanese in 1942 when they took Singapore. It is reputed to still have evidence of shrapnel damage sustained during the heavy fighting.

 

 

Thanks very much.

 

When I posted the photo I thought it didn't look right for a Peckett but had no better idea as to what it might be.

 

I've amended the caption.

 

David