talisman56 Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 (edited) With reference to 'Hillmorton Class 87 87001 down Royal Scot March 76 J5082', I have learnt something that I didn't know. Loco hauled mark 3 stock in use before production HSTs entered service. I had always assumed that the HSTs were in service first. Lovely pictures as always and the horse and foal add a very special touch indead. With a Mk1 catering vehicle (RU?) (RKB?)... Edited February 14, 2018 by talisman56 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Phil Bullock Posted February 14, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 14, 2018 Could well be a Class 87 - the loco has Flexicoil springs so definitely not Classes 81 - 85. Look at the underfloor boxes (not sure what they are!) and compare to other 85s 86s and 87s - its an 87 Phil Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted February 14, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 14, 2018 Look at the underfloor boxes (not sure what they are!) and compare to other 85s 86s and 87s - its an 87 Phil It's where they put the batteries Phil! Mike. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Piewalker Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 (edited) Fine pictures of proper liveried electrics Edited February 14, 2018 by Luke Piewalker Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Phil Bullock Posted February 14, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 14, 2018 It's where they put the batteries Phil! Mike. But on a Sparky Mike ?!???!!! Phil Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted February 14, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 14, 2018 But on a Sparky Mike ?!???!!! Phil How else does it go? Mike. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leopardml2341 Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 With reference to 'Hillmorton Class 87 87001 down Royal Scot March 76 J5082', I have learnt something that I didn't know. Loco hauled mark 3 stock in use before production HSTs entered service. I had always assumed that the HSTs were in service first. Lovely pictures as always and the horse and foal add a very special touch indead. Indeed, but the odd thing is that the MK designations were/are MK3 for HST trailers and 3a and later some 3b for the loco hauled stock and if course only the loco hauled stock has conventional buffing gear. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
45125 Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 (edited) Indeed, but the odd thing is that the MK designations were/are MK3 for HST trailers and 3a and later some 3b for the loco hauled stock and if course only the loco hauled stock has conventional buffing gear. Not quite the first HST vehicles all had buffers and 1000v ETH as they were effectively local hauled coaches............. Edited February 14, 2018 by 45125 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leopardml2341 Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 (edited) Not quite the first HST vehicles all had buffers and 1000v ETH as they were effectively local hauled coaches.............Agreed, but my reply was in the context of the quoted text which refers to production HSTs That is why, of course, when the prototype HST was disbanded, (some of) its trailers became part of the LHCS fleet. Edit, corrects 'autocorrect' and its belief that it has a better grasp of grammar. Edited February 14, 2018 by leopardml2341 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
balders Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 J4361 isn't an 87 Dave. Air braked. It's an all Mk1 rake! Whilst there we're a fair few dual braked a WCML rake would've been VB and dual heat. Can't suggest an alternative it's a bit indistinct. Some great photos as always! Regards Guy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leopardml2341 Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 (edited) J4361 isn't an 87 Dave. Air braked. It's an all Mk1 rake! Whilst there we're a fair few dual braked a WCML rake would've been VB and dual heat. Can't suggest an alternative it's a bit indistinct. Some great photos as always! Regards Guy On that basis, it's an 86 with the flexicoil springs, iirc 3 of them subclass 86/1? Ignore that ∆∆∆ wrong pic reference, I'm tired! Edited February 14, 2018 by leopardml2341 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Kazmierczak Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 Definitely not a Class 87 as it has a SF pan. Can't see any Flexcoils springs either. Could well be a Class 85 but too indistinct. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted February 15, 2018 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted February 15, 2018 Photos from three visits to York for this afternoon. York Class 55 D9015 Kings X to Edinburgh Aug 65 J222 York A3 4472 Flying Scotsman up light engine Oct 66 J673 York 45117 Scarborough to Bangor Oct 83 C6298 York Class 253 036 Newcastle to Penzance Oct 83 C6300 York train ferry vans Oct 83 C6304 David 50 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 Those Belgian vans were a clever design; apart from the two side doors, the roof could be opened, allowing long items to be craned in. The livery was unpainted stainless for the side doors, and reddish-brown for the rest. They were built in 1977. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Kazmierczak Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 Classic York in the first shot....... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold BoD Posted February 15, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 15, 2018 What a great selection of photos today. Once again, thank you for sharing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted February 15, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 15, 2018 Hi, Dave. I like the York photos, and the first one is a delightful view of a Deltic running through on a down non stopper. The second photo is a lovely one of Flying Scotsman just over a year later. With warmest regards, Rob. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leopardml2341 Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 (edited) York today just looks 'wrong' electric wires and no through lines; just ain't right to me Edited February 15, 2018 by leopardml2341 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmrspaul Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 York today just looks 'wrong' electric wires and no through lines; just ain't right to me But much more important with far more ECML passenger trains, and very few non stop. Paul 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Phil Bullock Posted February 15, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 15, 2018 Went several times in the 70s...always a special place Phil 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
talisman56 Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 Lovely picture of the curved scissor crossing in C6304... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted February 15, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 15, 2018 I remember the last ever train to Hull via Market Weighton, in late November, 1965. A six car DMU. It was packed to standing as it ran along the line in the moonlit snowy landscape. Detonators were let off on departing Market Weighton station, next stop Beverley. Now all trains to Hull go via Selby. Memories, which are brought back by those lovely photo's. Best regards, Rob. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted February 16, 2018 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted February 16, 2018 A trip to Northumberland for this afternoon's photos which were taken on the Blyth and Tyne between Winning and Cambois. Most of them are from the mid 80s with one from the 90s. Freemans Crossing 37238 29th Sept 85 C7210 Freemans Crossing 56117 Wilton Coalpower coal to Blyth power station 25th July 96 C21065 Blyth Power station 56134 16th April 85 C6806 Blyth West staithes 08872 19th April 85 C6830 Cambois 37212 alumina empties from Alcan Lynemouth Alcan North Blyth terminal 22nd Dec 86 C8234 David 42 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alcanman Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 Great pics along the Blyth & Tyne. The rakes of MGR hoppers reminds me of just how busy Blyth was back in the 80s. Thanks for sharing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted February 16, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 16, 2018 York today just looks 'wrong' electric wires and no through lines; just ain't right to me To me, this is the "right" York; 9003 0r 4, August 1970. Mike. 16 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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