RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted February 13, 2017 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted February 13, 2017 Travelling from Ulleskelf towards York you pass Chaloners Whin Junction (or at least you did when Dad and i photographed in the area). At Chaloners Whin Junction the ECML diverged, heading south to Selby and beyond while the line from York to Leeds went straight on. Now the junction has long gone, closed when the diversion opened to avoid the Selby coalfield. The images are from 1966 and 1967. Chaloners Whin Junction B1 61128 freight to Foss Island Oct 66 J653 Chaloners Whin Junction Class 37 D6724 Newcastle to Lincoln Oct 66 J654 haloners Whin Junction Class 40 D238 up freight March 67 J800 Chaloners Whin Junction Class 37 D6794 note hot boxes down freight March 67 J802 Chaloners Whin Junction Class 45 Bristol to Newcastle March 67 J804 David 46 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium brushman47544 Posted February 13, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 13, 2017 Newcastle to Lincoln... I do miss the days of through trains (normally one day) between a wide variety of not necessarily logical origins and destinations. It's all far too boring and predictable these days. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted February 13, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 13, 2017 Are you referring to C1958 in post # 9153? Cheers, Mick J347 in post #9159 Keith Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 Newcastle to Lincoln... I do miss the days of through trains (normally one day) between a wide variety of not necessarily logical origins and destinations. It's all far too boring and predictable these days. A lot of these workings would have relied for passengers upon military personnel on weekend leave warrants; for many years now, such people have had their own vehicles. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Phil Bullock Posted February 13, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 13, 2017 J802 ... the driver might have been somewhat liberal in his interpretation of the speed limits with that many hot boxes? Smashing shots again Dave ....many thanks Phil Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LNERGE Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 Chaloners Whin Junction Class 37 D6794 hot boxes down freight March 67 J802.jpg Chaloners Whin Junction Class 37 D6794 note hot boxes down freight March 67 J802 David Is it a hot box or are the brakes on the fitted head getting a real hammering? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted February 13, 2017 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted February 13, 2017 Is it a hot box or are the brakes on the fitted head getting a real hammering? You could be right but when I enlarge to original scan the leading wagon is mainly grey (and rust) so it ought to be unfitted. But you never know. I wish I could remember the smell and exactly what I saw but it's a bit too long ago now. I did write hot boxes on the back of my b/w print I made from my shot of the same train. David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted February 13, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 13, 2017 Hi, Dave. A great set of photo's from Chaloner's Whin Junction. I particularly like D6724 in J654. What a time that was when you got 37's hauling Thompson corridor coaches. Never again would that happen. I love these photo's for enabling us to go back to those good old days. More please. With warmest regards, Rob. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LNERGE Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 I have to agree but more than one hot box in a train is pretty unlucky let alone on two adjacent wagons. Maybe handbrakes left on. I can see the levers this side look ok but maybe the other side? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 Is it a hot box or are the brakes on the fitted head getting a real hammering? What fitted head? The first wagon is an LNER diagram 100 - riveted bodywork, high, NER-style lever - and none of those were fitted. The second vehicle, an iron ore tippler, has a tiebar and no tippler with a tiebar was fitted. The brakes aren't pinned down so it isn't the brakeshoes, therefore Dave's note and recollection is most likely correct and the front pair of wagons are running on hot 'boxes. Adam Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonny777 Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 Newcastle to Lincoln... I do miss the days of through trains (normally one day) between a wide variety of not necessarily logical origins and destinations. It's all far too boring and predictable these days. Yes, during the winter the Newcastle to Colchester was cut back to Lincoln. Lots of RAF bases in that area. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AberdeenBill Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 What's with the 'whitewashed' second van in J800 (post 9172)?? Bill Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold russ p Posted February 13, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 13, 2017 It is possible that the brakes are applied on the opposite side but there is no significant gradient so I wouldn't have thought so unless the levers have just dropped down I'd also say hotbox but three so close together is unusual Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
67A Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 Just catching up on your terrific photo library Dave, certainly takes me back. I notice you visit Ratcliffe-on-Soar pretty often, did you live in that area for a while? I lived in Nottingham from 1972-1981 and never took any photos locally, such a dimwit eh! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted February 13, 2017 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted February 13, 2017 What's with the 'whitewashed' second van in J800 (post 9172)?? Bill I wondered whether it had been carrying bagged cement (or other white powder) and some had burst when loading/unloading. David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted February 13, 2017 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted February 13, 2017 Just catching up on your terrific photo library Dave, certainly takes me back. I notice you visit Ratcliffe-on-Soar pretty often, did you live in that area for a while? I lived in Nottingham from 1972-1981 and never took any photos locally, such a dimwit eh! The family lived in and around Nottingham until 1965, Mum and Dad moved back to the east of Nottingham in 1968 and stayed for some years, so Ratcliffe on Soar was not far away, was good for parking and provided a number of nice views. David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Davexoc Posted February 13, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 13, 2017 It is possible that the brakes are applied on the opposite side but there is no significant gradient so I wouldn't have thought so unless the levers have just dropped down I'd also say hotbox but three so close together is unusual It could just be the trailing axles on the first two wagons with hot boxes, white-ish smoke being more likely to be oil than brakes. Could they be cripples on the way to a wagon works? Dave Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 96701 Posted February 13, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 13, 2017 It could just be the trailing axles on the first two wagons with hot boxes, white-ish smoke being more likely to be oil than brakes. Could they be cripples on the way to a wagon works? Dave Hot boxes cause derailments, so I very much doubt that wagons would be allowed to run with them, they would more than likely be red carded. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Johnster Posted February 13, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 13, 2017 Hot boxes cause derailments, so I very much doubt that wagons would be allowed to run with them, they would more than likely be red carded. Or it could be a case of dragging brakes, something else that would trigger a hot box detector and require attention or a slow run to a yard where it could be obtained. It would be very unusual to have two hot boxes on different axles of the same wagon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
67A Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 I can remember the local toe-rags living near Corkerhill MPD passing their time filling the axle-boxes of stabled 16t mineral wagons from a plentiful supply of sand around the depot, loco's awaiting withdrawal being an easy source from their sandboxes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicktamarensis Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 Hello Dave, Is there any chance I might be able to use your pic. of Renishaw to complement an article on the works I am working on to appear in Railway Bylines? Nick. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted February 14, 2017 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted February 14, 2017 Hello Dave, Is there any chance I might be able to use your pic. of Renishaw to complement an article on the works I am working on to appear in Railway Bylines? Nick. PM sent David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium D.Platt Posted February 14, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 14, 2017 Love the second van behind D238 wonder what goods that had been used for ? If I weathered a van like that I would think I had over done it !! Thanks again for sharing your photos Dave . Dennis Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted February 14, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 14, 2017 You could be right but when I enlarge to original scan the leading wagon is mainly grey (and rust) so it ought to be unfitted. But you never know. I wish I could remember the smell and exactly what I saw but it's a bit too long ago now. I did write hot boxes on the back of my b/w print I made from my shot of the same train. David They certainly look like hotboxes but the smell would be the real clue as hot boxes have a smell all of their own and it's different from the smell of burning brake blocks. I reckon early stage on the way to hotboxeshotboxes because unless it's a trick of the light there's no sign of heat damage on the axlebox covers so it's probably just the pads burning and noy yet damaging the journals. If it was the journals seriously on the way you'd have heard it as well as smelt it. As for 'two together' the one for that used to be the Malago Vale - Old Oak Common empty vans which picked up ex-works vehicles at Swindon and it was quite common for at least one of the ex-works ones to have a hotbox by Ealing and not unknown for there to be several. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted February 14, 2017 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted February 14, 2017 (edited) Mainly Southern today. Plus one of the trackbed (the last photo today) of the Bideford Westward Ho! and Appledore Railway. The house in the photo is still visible on Google Earth, it is at the western end of Westward Ho!. The trackbed in this photo now forms a part of the southwest coastal path. Bursledon Bridge River Hamble demu Sept 63 J065 Sandwich 33202 up pw wrong line March 75 C1898 Despite the red blinds it was coming towards me. Sole Street 4CEP 7184 Victoria to Gillingham April 75 C1971 Stonestreet Green Class 423 7855 July 79 C4606 near Kipling Tors track bed of Bideford Westward Ho and Appledore Railway Aug 66 J585 Western end of Westward Ho! David Edited February 14, 2017 by DaveF 30 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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