Dave F's photos - ongoing - more added each day

[DaveF]

I would like to know the identity of the 'animal' on the upturned wheelbarrow in J1777. I've been looking at it a while now and I still can't work out what it is!

 

 

In C1715 I assume (probably wrongly!) that the class 37 has brought in a semifast of some kind from the Cross and another loco is about to take it back south, releasing the loco shown for another duty; hence the driver is at this end. But of course I may have got south and north wrong.

And is the dead animal the photographer's coat? Probably not; more likely his lunch.

Jonathan

 

 

Looks a bit like a small deer.

Phil

 

 

I've had a look at the original scan and am reasonably certain it is a sack cunningly disguised as an animal.

 

I know it's a very long time ago but I am sure I remember seeing sacks alongside the ECML containing spare bolts and chair screws etc.

 

David.

[50A55B]

I'd say the 47 is 1111 as well. It's got Holbeck style white rimmed buffers and was allocated there at the time of the photo. It's definitely an ex NER area loco as it has an orange backed depot allocation stencil next to the number.

[Clive Mortimore]

Hi Dave

 

More brilliant photos - thanks again

 

Do we have another loco ID quandary I wonder?

 

J2466 - if that were D1516 being one of the original generator batch she would have ETH and an oval Brush built works plate - cant see any ETH and she has a square Crewe built works plate

 

Are we looking at a loco from the D11xx batch perhaps?

 

Kind regards

 

Phil

I think Phil is on the right track here, all the first twenty retained their 3 part fixed radiator grille until repainted blue.

[brushman47544]

Asking for trouble perhaps..... but J1462 looks like D9021 Argyll & Sutherland Highlander. It has a crest, name on two lines and text longer on top line.

[mark54]

1A27 was the 13:00 Newcastle-KX. The front 3 coaches were attached at York from 12:00 Newcastle-Lincoln via Sunderland (see 1E79 below)

1A15 was the 09:15 Newcastle-KX The Tees-Tyne Pullman. Unless I'm mistaken the middle of the 5 Pullmans is in umber & cream and therefore a 2nd class car. On 23rd July 1969 the down train was badly derailed at Sandy which suggests the photo is after that date and would explain the inclusion of a 2nd class car (it was by the 1st class Pullman/2nd class ordinary).

1L09 was the 10:20 KX-Leeds/Hull

1H02 was the 12:20 KX-Hull

 

From the previous day

1E79 was the 12:00 Newcastle to Lincoln (via Sunderland). The front 3 coaches were attached at York to the 1A27 13:00 Newcastle-KX (see above)

[Clive Mortimore]

I would like to know the identity of the 'animal' on the upturned wheelbarrow in J1777. I've been looking at it a while now and I still can't work out what it is!

I think it is one Donald Trump's earlier wigs :nono:

[brushman47544]

Changed my mind; post deleted.

Edited November 12, 2016 by brushman47544

[stovepipe]

Asking for trouble perhaps..... but J1462 looks like D9021 Argyll & Sutherland Highlander. It has a crest, name on two lines and text longer on top line.

 

Yes I agree, and in blue from December 1967.

[caradoc]

C1715; IIRC 37s were rare at Kings X in the 70s. Could this be a working from the March direction, rather than off the ECML - Was there a loco-hauled Harwich/Peterborough diagram at that time ?

[Fat Controller]

I think it is one Donald Trump's earlier wigs :nono:

A Lurkin' Merkin?

[caradoc]

Further thoughts on C1715: I don't have a 1974 passenger timetable, but in the May 71-May 72 version there was a 1252 Harwich PQ-Peterborough, arriving at 1545 and connecting into a 1551 Peterborough-Leicester. I wonder if these, or something similar, are the trains in the photo ?

[DaveF]

Photos from the Foxfield Railway in the 1970s for this afternoon.

 

 

Dilhorne Platform Bagnall Hawarden Dilhorne to Cash Heath Wharf 28th Sept 75 J4954

 

 

Dilhorne Platform Bagnall Hawarden Dilhorne to Cash Heath Wharf 28th Sept 75 J4955

 

 

Dilhorne Bagnall Lewisham July76 C2887

 

 

Dilhorne Sentinel July 76 C2896

 

 

Dilhorne Bagnall Hawarden ecs July 76 C2902

 

 

Dilhorne Bagnall Hawarden July 76 C2912

[Jon Fitness]

J4955....MODEL!

[russ p]

Love the old preservation pictures David,is there any glass in the LMS coach?

[DaveF]

Love the old preservation pictures David,is there any glass in the LMS coach?

 

 

In the first photo there was glazing in the coach.

 

In the final photo: Of course not - people were hardy then!

 

It's a converted LMS scenery van with seats.

 

Edited to remove some confusion caused by me writing about the last photo not the first one.

 

David

Edited November 13, 2016 by DaveF

[DaveF]

 Photos from Dent Head to Kirkby Stephen on the Settle and Carlisle this evening - it must be evening as it dark and wet outside.

 

 

Dent Head LMS Clas 5 45461 up freight May 66 J519

 

 

Dent Head Classes 156 & 142 Carlisle to Leeds Note mgr wagons at trackside 24th Aug 98 C24002

 

 

Dent LMS 8F down special pass May 66 J522

 

 

Aisgill LMS Class 5 4-6-0 45253 up goods Aug 65 J328

 

 

Kirkby Stephen Northern Spirit 156483 Leeds to Carlisle 15th April 99 C24306

 

 

David

 

 

 

[Market65]

Hi, Dave. I like the photos of the Foxfield Railway, and I also wonder if the saloon windows are glazed in the first photo.

The S&C photos are a lovely mixture, and I particularly like the steam era photos. Again they show how run down steam was in those last years. In J328, Stanier Black 5, 45253 makes a fine sight at the head of a goods train - a real classic view of a steam hauled goods train.

 

With warmest regards,

 

Rob.

[great central]

Hi, Dave. I like the photos of the Foxfield Railway, and I also wonder if the saloon windows are glazed in the first photo.

The S&C photos are a lovely mixture, and I particularly like the steam era photos. Again they show how run down steam was in those last years. In J328, Stanier Black 5, 45253 makes a fine sight at the head of a goods train - a real classic view of a steam hauled goods train.

 

With warmest regards,

 

Rob.

Agreed the locos look scruffy but appear to be in good order mechanically, working hard yet few if any steam leaks visible

[uax6]

I think that the salon windows are glazed, you can just make out the triangular no smoking sign above the childs head.

 

The rear shot of the brake van is interesting, I wonder what the extra chains are for?

 

Andy G

[New Haven Neil]

I see 'Lewisham' has patent valve gear, I just can't decide which version! Baguley or Bagnall?

[Fat Controller]

I think that the salon windows are glazed, you can just make out the triangular no smoking sign above the childs head.

 

The rear shot of the brake van is interesting, I wonder what the extra chains are for?

 

Andy G

They look like the sort of 'safety chains' that were seen in earlier days.

The bogie saloons came from Boots at Nottingham, IIRC.

[DaveF]

Hi, Dave. I like the photos of the Foxfield Railway, and I also wonder if the saloon windows are glazed in the first photo.

The S&C photos are a lovely mixture, and I particularly like the steam era photos. Again they show how run down steam was in those last years. In J328, Stanier Black 5, 45253 makes a fine sight at the head of a goods train - a real classic view of a steam hauled goods train.

 

With warmest regards,

 

Rob.

 

 

I think that the salon windows are glazed, you can just make out the triangular no smoking sign above the childs head.

 

The rear shot of the brake van is interesting, I wonder what the extra chains are for?

 

Andy G

 

 

The windows in the LMS coach in the first photo were glazed.   The final photo of the scenery van shows that it was unglazed - ideal on a summers day. - it was the ideal mode of transport on a hot summer's day.

 

I'm not sure about the chains but I wonder if it was to do with the gradient at Dilhorne which was about 1 in 14 from the bottom sidings.

 

I see 'Lewisham' has patent valve gear, I just can't decide which version! Baguley or Bagnall?

 

It was built by Bagnall in 1927 and has Bagnall Price valve gear.

 

Link to page about the current restoration appeal for Lewisham:

 

http://www.foxfieldrailway.co.uk/appeal_article.php?Help-us-restore-Lewisham-1

 

General details of Foxfield Railway steam locos:

 

http://www.foxfieldrailway.co.uk/steamlocomotives.php

 

 

David

[Mandrover]

Hi Dave amazing pictures as usual. I like the one of Dent Head with the MGR wagons in. Myself and a friend went to have a look at that derailment a few days before this as the derailed wagons were still in there various positions post derailment and coal everywhere. I cant remember if I took any pictures of it. I cant remember what locos were on site recovering all the stricken wagons either? I cant believe it was nearly 20 years ago now!!!!

[DaveF]

Another batch from the Midland between Trent and Loughborough today.

 

 

Trent Railway workers cottages Oct 75 C2504

 

 

Ratcliffe on Soar 45144 Royal Signals Leeds to St Pancras June 76 C2825

 

 

Kegworth pw work Oct 75 C2524

 

 

Normanton on Soar Class 46 up May 69 J1659  15.15 Derby to St Pancras SX  Possibly taken on 5th May

 

 

Normanton on Soar Class 45 100 down ex pass  12.30 St Pancras to Manchester Piccadilly Sept 70 J2372

 

 

David

Edited November 14, 2016 by DaveF

[Market65]

Hi, Dave. A great set of Midland line photos. As ever it is good seeing the 45's and 46's at work.

 

With warmest regards,

 

Rob.