RMweb Gold Market65 Posted March 31, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 31, 2016 Hi, Dave. I like today's photo's of Harlaxton. The first one is somewhat reminiscent of the old Derwent Valley light railway, near York, with its overgrown track. And what lovely steam locos there was - just right for modelling. With warmest regards, Rob. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
caradoc Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 J2280 is a wonderful picture of the railway in the beautiful English countryside, thanks Dave. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium New Haven Neil Posted March 31, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 31, 2016 J1536 is a Barclay I think, Dave. The side tank went to Keighley I think. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 J1536 is a Barclay I think, Dave. The side tank went to Keighley I think. Definitely a Barclay - though Avonside and Bagnalls both built locos with similar shaped tanks. I can't quite make out the name though. Adam Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted March 31, 2016 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted March 31, 2016 J1536 is a Barclay I think, Dave. The side tank went to Keighley I think. Many thanks, once again a case of not typing what I was reading! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold highpeakman Posted March 31, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 31, 2016 A new line was laid into the harbour at Battleship Wharf from the line to the Alcan terminal and is still used for coal traffic. David Hi Dave. Thanks again for such interesting photos. I am not familiar with Blyth at all but, after looking at your photos, I had a look at Google Earth and Battleship Wharf. I can't work out from the view how the coal is unloaded from the ships to the train loading point. There does not to seem to be any obvious conveyor system but, as there is a loading shed, surely there must be. There is a significant storage stack near the train shed but that might just be for trucks. So do they use those cranes to load trucks from the ship and dump in the stock pile and then on to the trains? That does not seem very efficient though. Sorry if this is a basic question and I am sure many others already know the answers but I am always interested in such industrial operations and how they operate. Thanks again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium New Haven Neil Posted March 31, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 31, 2016 I was wondering if that Barclay saddletank became 'Salmon' on the NYMR?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted March 31, 2016 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted March 31, 2016 Hi Dave. Thanks again for such interesting photos. I am not familiar with Blyth at all but, after looking at your photos, I had a look at Google Earth and Battleship Wharf. I can't work out from the view how the coal is unloaded from the ships to the train loading point. There does not to seem to be any obvious conveyor system but, as there is a loading shed, surely there must be. There is a significant storage stack near the train shed but that might just be for trucks. So do they use those cranes to load trucks from the ship and dump in the stock pile and then on to the trains? That does not seem very efficient though. Sorry if this is a basic question and I am sure many others already know the answers but I am always interested in such industrial operations and how they operate. Thanks again. I think what you suggest is correct, but I have to admit that although I go for a walk on the beach near there quite often I've never really studied it - from the road (and the water) you can't see all that much. Others probably know better than me. David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold highpeakman Posted March 31, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 31, 2016 I think what you suggest is correct, but I have to admit that although I go for a walk on the beach near there quite often I've never really studied it - from the road (and the water) you can't see all that much. Others probably know better than me. David Thanks for the reply. After further study it looks as if movement to train is all done by crane and truck via a stack storage. Not sure if I can understand why the train shed is required though as everything else is exposed to the weather. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 I was wondering if that Barclay saddletank became 'Salmon' on the NYMR?? I don't think so - Salmon and its sister loco, Swordfish, were named in quarry service, apparently after naval vessels lost the year before they were built (1940, both locos built 1941): http://www.brc-stockbook.co.uk/swordfish.htm It's difficult to make out, but the loco in David's picture appears to be named XXnton (possibly 'Denton'). Adam Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted March 31, 2016 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted March 31, 2016 I was wondering if that Barclay saddletank became 'Salmon' on the NYMR?? For some reason I can't multiquote from posts on two pages of the thread. I've had a delve into both Dad's and my notes of visits to Harlaxton, and also had a look at Eric Tonks' books on the Ironstone Railways. To be honest I should know which loco was which as I visited there several times and Dad used to know the people there when he ran the works at Sewstern during the preservation period. The Barclay 0-6-0ST (in J1536) is Denton, which was scrapped in October 1969. Salmon went from the nearby Woolsthorpe Quarries to the NYMR in March 1969. The Barclay 0-6-0T (in J1535) is not Ajax. Ajax is on the far right of the photo and ended up at the Isle of Wight Steam Railway. Therefore it probably is Harlaxton, which went to Haworth (KWVR) in June 1969. Later Harlaxton was bought for the preservation project on the High Dyke branch where she was kept at Sewstern, I had several footplate rides on her there. From there Harlaxton moved to the North Norfolk at Sheringham and is now (as far as I know) on the Caledonian Railway at Brechin. It can be quite difficult to know which loco was which as they were frequently exchanged between quarries owned by the same company. At the end of their life they frequently ended up like the locos in some of my photos with neither number nor name visible. Once again I recommend Eric Tonks' books on the Ironstone Railways to anyone who wants to know a (lot) more. David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted March 31, 2016 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted March 31, 2016 (edited) Thanks for the reply. After further study it looks as if movement to train is all done by crane and truck via a stack storage. Not sure if I can understand why the train shed is required though as everything else is exposed to the weather. The shed is to cut down dust during loading which affected residents of the nearby houses in Cambois and North Blyth. At times the coal dust also blew across the river into Blyth. Fine powdered coal can travel a long way in a north easterly gale. There has always been a similar problem with the alumina terminal at North Blyth, I think unloading of ships is still restricted in some weather conditions and alumina dust does find its way across the river into Blyth. David Edited March 31, 2016 by DaveF Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold highpeakman Posted March 31, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 31, 2016 The shed is to cut down dust during loading which affected residents of the nearby houses in Cambois and North Blyth. At times the coal dust also blew across the river into Blyth. Fine powdered coal can travel a long way in a north easterly gale. There has always been a similar problem with the alumina terminal at North Blyth, I think unloading of ships is still restricted in some weather conditions and alumina dust does find its way across the river into Blyth. David OK, that makes a lot of sense. I can see houses nearby on GE. Thanks for that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted April 1, 2016 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted April 1, 2016 Birmingham today, all taken on a dull day in October 1978. I was going to and from the Motor Show. Birmingham Moor Street Class 116 dmus, on left to Stratford Oct 78 C4180 Birmingham Moor Street Class 116 refurbished Oct 78 C4182 Birmingham New Street Class 116 Four Oaks to New St Oct 78 C4183 Birmingham New Street 310080 down pass Oct 78 C4186 Birmingham New Street Class 304 to Motor show overcrowded Oct 78 C4189 Birmingham New Street 304022 Walsall to New St Oct 78 C4190 David 45 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted April 1, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 1, 2016 Hi, Dave. A series of great and atmospheric photo's from Birmingham in October, 1978 - that year and month which I remember well. The first photo' shows a fume laden Moor Street which is so characteristic of the diesel railway. And overcrowding in C4189 is even worse today, and seems to be something that cannot be solved. All sorts of solutions have been looked at, including double deck trains, but nothing has really solved that problem. With warmest regards, Rob. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Kazmierczak Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 That overcrowded AM4 made me smile David. Was it the cast from Crossroads on their way home, or the Village People singing YMCA? I was working in Birmingham in that period - did we really dress like that? Afraid so.................. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted April 2, 2016 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted April 2, 2016 (edited) Northumberland again today, once more with photos from the Blyth and Tyne. This time we are looking at the line from Newcastle through South Newsham to Ashington. The actual photos are between Seghill and Bebside, just south of Bedlington Station. Seghill 37128 up p w train 9th Feb 86 C7343 Taken on a very dull and cold day. Seaton Delaval Class 43 diverted up ex pass 24th June 84 C6565 Train is going away. South Newsham 56115 and 56124 down l e 2nd Feb 91 C15566 Plessey Road Crossing Newsham ballasting 11th March 84 C6455 Bebside down pw train 4th March 84 C6437 Edited to get the right photos in the right order David Edited April 2, 2016 by DaveF 37 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheesysmith Posted April 2, 2016 Share Posted April 2, 2016 Love those photos, a 37 with round buffers and cut away buffer beam skirts, and a dogfish with the slag ballast extended sides. Those other photos of the old BR DMUs with the exhaust belching away reminds me of how much they were rattling wheezing trains, and we're not always guaranteed to get you there, but I still loved them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted April 2, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 2, 2016 Hi, Dave. I love the photos of the Blyth and Tyne railway. That first one looks so cold! Then in the last photo there is a fine portrait of 37099. With warmest regards, Rob. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
North Eastern Posted April 2, 2016 Share Posted April 2, 2016 Is that a Great Western Toad Brake Van behind 37099, in the depths of the North East? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted April 2, 2016 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted April 2, 2016 Is that a Great Western Toad Brake Van behind 37099, in the depths of the North East? I believe some were used on engineers trains as staff accommodation after they were no longer used as brake vans. I seem to remember their use on all forms of freight ended because the guard could only enter and leave the van at the veranda end which meant a guard could be trapped in the event of a collision. David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted April 3, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 3, 2016 I believe some were used on engineers trains as staff accommodation after they were no longer used as brake vans. I seem to remember their use on all forms of freight ended because the guard could only enter and leave the van at the veranda end which meant a guard could be trapped in the event of a collision. David Correct. They were banned from traffic use as brakevans in late 1965 - regret I don't have the exact date. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted April 3, 2016 Share Posted April 3, 2016 Correct. They were banned from traffic use as brakevans in late 1965 - regret I don't have the exact date.They did seem very popular with the various engineer's departments, though, probably because they were relatively spacious, and the door at one end only cut down draughts. The verandah also gave stowage space for hand tools. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted April 3, 2016 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted April 3, 2016 (edited) Some more photos from the preserved section of the Bowes Railway for today, including rope haulage. The photos are from 1991. For those unfamiliar with the area the railway is roughly south of Gateshead and to the west of Washington (the one in England). Springwell Bowes Railway Barclay WST 27th May 91 C 15831 The wagons are arriving at Springwell from Blackham's Hill having come down the rope worked incline using the rope. Springwell Bowes Railway Planet 101 27th May 91 C15842 Blackham's Hill Bowes Railway Barclay WST 27th May 91 C 15832 Blackhams Hill Bowes Railway wagons at top of incline 27th May 91 C15833 Blackhams Hill Bowes Railway wagons at top of incline 27th May 91 C15836 Blackhams Hill Bowes Railway wagons going down incline with rope 27th May 91 C15837 David Edited April 3, 2016 by DaveF 32 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted April 3, 2016 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted April 3, 2016 Some photos from the Cambrian Coast line for today's second batch. They were taken on holidays in the area, some were taken only 15 years ago. For some reason I don't remember taking the one at Aberystwyth, but I can clearly remember the days on which I took the others. Aberystwyth Vale of Rheidol No 9 and shed 7th Aug 79 C4716 Tywyn 26th July 01 C25415 Tywyn Central Trains 158847 to Pwlhelli 26th July 01 C25430 Tywyn Classes 101 and 103 Machynlleth to Pwlhelli July 82 C5764 Fairbourne view south 26th July 01 C25438 Fairbourne view north 26th July 01 C25439 David 34 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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