Fat Controller Posted September 19, 2015 Share Posted September 19, 2015 Hi Dave, All your (and your dad's) photos are wonderful, but those taken in the late 1960s and featuring AC electrics are just beyond compare. J1818 (already commented upon above) includes a Fruit D a part of the partially fitted freight. Presumably with the rather dodgy riding quality of those sand hoppers, it was quite severely limited in speed? I reckon that J0832 (the AM4/AM10 combination) must be near unique. Thanks again, Bill The sand hoppers were 35 mph maximum; I remember seeing them on services from Oakamoor to the St Helens area. The Redhill hoppers generally had a Vanfit between them and the brake van, as sand would otherwise be blown into the guard's face; it's absent in this photo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium keefer Posted September 19, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 19, 2015 IIRC the 304s were most similar technically to 310s. I've got an old BR instruction booklet somewhere about the brakes/electricals etc and it refers to both classes. Seems odd esp as how different they are structurally ie Mk 1 v Mk 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TheSignalEngineer Posted September 19, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 19, 2015 I reckon that J0832 (the AM4/AM10 combination) must be near unique. The 304/310 combo happened often enough to cause problems and the 310s to be de-rated to the same maximum speed as the 304s having originally being 10mph faster. (Bouncy Castle at 85mph anyone?) The unusual thing is that the 304s were not so common souith of Rugby, as Euston - Northampton - Rugby - Birmingham services were all booked for 310s IIRC. 304s tended to be on the Liverpool and Manchester areas, Trent Valley locals, Stafford - Wolverhampton - Birmingham - Coventry - Rugby locals and the Walsall - Birmingham Circular Tour.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted September 19, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 19, 2015 Hi, Dave. Excellent photo's of the WCML at Hillmorton. The class 304's were rather lively weren't they? I love the freight train, with a great selection of stock. With best regards, Rob. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmsforever Posted September 19, 2015 Share Posted September 19, 2015 Used to travel from Tring to Euston or Birmingham on 310,s very comfortable and fast agree about bouncing especialy at Bletchley going north surprisingly even with slam doors u did not feel draughts not so sure about current stock seats are hard. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted September 19, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 19, 2015 Yes, I must add that I think that most, if not all current units, have seats made from something that feels like slabs of concrete, and with very little leg room. With regards, Rob. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Phil Bullock Posted September 19, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 19, 2015 Hi Dave Missed my daily fix on this thread as have been away for a fortnight You have crept more cracking shots in in my absence! On a point of order - J1818 - E3043 it aint, that's an 84 - E3063 perhaps? Kind regards Phil Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted September 19, 2015 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted September 19, 2015 (edited) Hi Dave Missed my daily fix on this thread as have been away for a fortnight You have crept more cracking shots in in my absence! On a point of order - J1818 - E3043 it aint, that's an 84 - E3063 perhaps? Kind regards Phil Thanks I'll go with E3063. Edit I've just had another look at Dad's notes, he has it as E3063 so it's my bad typing again. David Edited September 19, 2015 by DaveF 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted September 20, 2015 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted September 20, 2015 (edited) The Great Central mainly in the late 70s is the subject for today's preserved railway photos. Mum and Dad lived not too far from Loughborough then so if I was visiting for the weekend and it was dull it was a pleasant ride to go and look at it rather than go further afield. Hence the number of photos taken at the railway in dull weather. Loughborough Central steam crane also Boscombe and King Haakon March 74 C1487 Quorn N2 4744 pass Rothley to Loughborough Central Aug 78 C4118 Loughborough Central B1 1306 and Director 506 Oct 78 C4199 Loughborough Central N2 474 running round April 79 C4437 Loughborough Central View north RSH 39 and D11 506 April 79 C4438 Loughborough Central N2 4744 leaving for Rothley April 79 C4440 Edited to sort out my poor typing. David Edited September 20, 2015 by DaveF 26 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted September 20, 2015 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted September 20, 2015 Some photos on the Great Eastern line from Colchester to Clacton and Walton this evening. As usual they were taken in the 70s when I lived in Basildon. The place names are the nearest villages to the locations where I took the photos.. Thorrington Class 309 Clacton and Walton to Liverpool St going away 2nd Nov 79 C4859 Great Bentley 309604 Walton and Clacton to Liverpool St Oct 75 C2482 Great Bentley 309622 Liverpool St to Clacton and Walton Nov 76 C3082 Thorpe le Soken Class 305 Colchester St Botolphs to Clacton July 75 J4529 Thorpe le Soken Class 305 Colchester St Botolphs to Clacton July 75 J4530 27 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
45059 Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 Cracking pictures as ever Dave, thank you. Although I understand the reasons for replacing the cab windows of the 309s, they looked so much nicer with the original curved glass. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trisonic Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 Thanks, as ever, for more ex GEML, David! Best, Pete. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted September 20, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 20, 2015 Hi, Dave. Great photo's of the preserved G.C. line as well as the GEML from Colchester to Clacton and Walton. I also like the class 309 EMU's. With best regards, Rob. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted September 21, 2015 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted September 21, 2015 (edited) A few from North Wales today. Rhyl 19th April 86 C7488 Llandudno Junction Class 120 to Llandudno from Conwy July 82 C5693 Llandudno Great Orme tramway No 7 July 82 C5705 Blaenau Ffestiniog Classes 120 and 101 July 82 C5733 Trawsfynnydd 25327? propelling to Blaenau Ffestiniog July 82 C5750 David Edited September 25, 2015 by DaveF 29 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold stovepipe Posted September 21, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 21, 2015 (edited) Many thanks - I never thought to check. I've no idea which one it is as I can't read the number. David It's a 304/2 in the range 016 - 045 - the wider bodyside windows being the tell tale. Looks like it's an empty stock move from the headcode. Edited September 21, 2015 by stovepipe Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted September 21, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 21, 2015 Hi, Dave. Great photo's from North Wales tonight. I particularly like that one of the Great Orme Tramway, a fascinating line. With Best Regards, Rob. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted September 22, 2015 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted September 22, 2015 A visit to Northumberland today to have a quick look at Ashington and the area around Woodhorn, on the Blyth and Tyne. Ashington NCB ex BR Class 14 Dec 82 C5896 Ashington view towards Butterwell Ashington No1 loop sig box in centre, from West junction 12th Aug 85 C7124 From one of my worse slides. Ashington NCB Hunslet 2101208 and ano 28th Nov 97 C9288 Woodhorn Class 101 The Lynemouth Link special for Alcan open day Lynemouth to Alcan North Blyth 21st Sept 86 C8121 This line was never open for BR passenger trains. Woodhorn 37410 Alumina empties Alcan Lynemouth to Alcan North Blyth 31st Oct 92 C18129 The lower embankment was the line to Newbiggin. David 32 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckymucklebackit Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 Great photographs, any ideas what the "goalposts" (for the want of a better description) are in the last two photographs. Jim Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted September 22, 2015 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted September 22, 2015 Great photographs, any ideas what the "goalposts" (for the want of a better description) are in the last two photographs. Jim I think it may be to with the power lines crossing the railway - perhaps they are permanent structure for putting protective nets/cables between when they are working on or replacing the power lines. David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LNERGE Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 I think it may be to with the power lines crossing the railway - perhaps they are permanent structure for putting protective nets/cables between when they are working on or replacing the power lines. David We used to do it for lineside pole routes too. A power cradle i think it's called. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted September 22, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 22, 2015 Hi, Dave. Excellent photo's of Ashington and Woodhorn. Those 'goalposts' do look very much like 'power cradles' to me as well - for they have been used across my local area just recently when some overhead high voltage power lines were being renewed. With best regards, Rob. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmsforever Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 When you go to Woodhorn now it looks so tidy compared to the working colliery days but it is a most informative place to go to I especially enjoyed seeing all the banners preserved there and the coal cart you can have a go at pushing makes you realise how hard coal mining was.Thanks for the photos any more LT&S pics please? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimleygrid Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 Agree with others, it is always nice to see 309s. If I recall correctly, they liked to pull the wires down! Happened quite frequently in the late 80s..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted September 23, 2015 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted September 23, 2015 (edited) When you go to Woodhorn now it looks so tidy compared to the working colliery days but it is a most informative place to go to I especially enjoyed seeing all the banners preserved there and the coal cart you can have a go at pushing makes you realise how hard coal mining was.Thanks for the photos any more LT&S pics please? More LT&S to come once I have found time to get them ready and caption them. David Edited September 23, 2015 by DaveF Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted September 23, 2015 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted September 23, 2015 Scotland today with photos from Mossend and Motherwell. The Mossend ones were taken on a "day out" in Scotland from home. Those at Motherwell were taken on the way to Glasgow Exhibition. Mossend yard Classes 86,81,85,26 14th Aug 87 C8959 Mossend North 37019 down freight 14th Aug 87 C8960 Mossend North 37412 up freight (ex Fort William) 14th Aug 87 C8966 Motherwell Class 101 20th Feb 98 C23383 Motherwell 60091 oil 20th Feb 98 C23384 David 23 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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