RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted April 2, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 2, 2014 Hi All I have a collection of road vehicles that I intend to plonk on my layout. Now to keep things in the correct time period I would like to add tax disc to each vehicle. My layout is based in the mid sixties. What colour were 1965 and 1966 tax disc? Where can I find out what colour for what year? Lorries seem to have two or three disc what were they and what colours? Why do some have three? May be this thread could be used to cover all years as a reference for other modellers. Thank you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
49395 Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 Have a look here http://www.britishtaxdiscs.co.uk/tax-disc-history.php http://www.britishtaxdiscs.co.uk/gallery.php Mike Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PhilJ W Posted April 2, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 2, 2014 Three colours were used in sequence red, blue and green. If you have discs of any two different colours it would be possible to work out the sequence/years applicable. I used to work in a post office at that time but sorry I can't remember the details after 50 years. The purpose of the colour change was to make an out of date disc readily visible. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodshaw Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 Another way to find out is to type 'tax disc' followed by the year into Google and look at images. Looks like 1965 was blue and 1966 was an orangey-brown. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PhilJ W Posted April 2, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 2, 2014 Even easier, look for 'old tax discs' on e-bay. EDIT '65 was blue. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold grandadbob Posted April 2, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 2, 2014 When I started work in 1966 for a large coal, builders merchant and aggregate supplier our lorries had "B" & "C" licences as well as the normal road fund licence. As far as I remember the "B" licence allowed you to hire the lorry to others whilst I think the "C" was just for carriage of your own goods. There was also an "A" licence which I think was for long distance hauliers. Someone else may have a better memory than me though! Regards, Bob PS I think the discs where white with just a large black letter A, B or C but again my memory is a bit hazy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bigbee Line Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 Clive, If it's the model is for the 'east end' you can use a P4 Guiness label or a hand written 'Tax in Post' label..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prometheus Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 Or a P4 Players No. 6 packet cut to shape........ But you probably don't want these sorts of postings ! Tony Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 The second disc was the operators licence, a light buff colour. Tax discs; '67 was green and '68 red, after which, the four colour sequence repeated. In any one year you would see the colour for that year and that of the previous year, as the year progressed there would be a gradual transition from last years, to this years, colour. Here's the Guy I built for the BCB project, set in 1976, it has the operators disc and a '75 green disc. I apply them with the end of a cocktail stick chopped off to give a disc of the right size. Dip in paint and apply, needs a practice or two but a very easy method. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted April 2, 2014 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted April 2, 2014 Cheers Phil, Rod, Mike, Bob and Arthur Very useful. Ernie and Tony, thanks for the tips, I have just spent £175 on a new blue circular piece of paper. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catkins Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 Hi All Lorries seem to have two or three disc what were they and what colours? Why do some have three? May be this thread could be used to cover all years as a reference for other modellers. Thank you. Lorries have two, or three discs in the cab - one is the tax disc for the motorised section one is the operators disc, classifying what sort of work the operator can do (see below) one is a tax/operators disc for the trailer where applicable. I drive a rigid truck without any way of coupling a trailer on, so it only needs two discs in the windscreen. Current Operators Disc Classes - 1- Restricted own account, this is used for hauliers who ONLY haul their own products between their own sites and their customers. They can not transport any body else's goods or products for 'hire or reward' 2- Standard National, this is used by any general haulier who will only be operating in the UK, and not normally going abroad. These hauliers can transport anybody's products between different points, for 'hire or reward' 3- Standard International, this is the international version the same rules apply as for the Standard National disc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium HillsideDepot Posted April 3, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 3, 2014 It is similar for buses and coaches, with different coloured discs to denote the permited types of operation. Standard International - green disc Standard National - blue disc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 one is a tax/operators disc for the trailer where applicable. Interesting, you're obviously still involved in haulage Catkins but that raises a question. It's some years since my own HGV (that shows it was a while back!) driving days, but that suggests that everytime you swop trailers you would need to put the appropriate trailer disc in the cab. Is that right? I certainly don't remember doing that and I was on work requiring constant trailer swopping. Of course, things may have changed. I'm trying to recall whether a trailer needed a separate licence back then or, if they did, were they fixed to the trailer?, which would simplify things. Having said that, I often pulled trailers owned and operated by other hauliers, how did/would that work? Seems to present a few practical problems. Just curious. Edit: this is the prototype for the BSC Guy, it has just two discs showing, maybe things have changed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catkins Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 Hi Arthur, yes I am in haulage (Chilled foods). I would guess that on a 1960s era articulated / drawbar outfit, the 'trailer' disc would be for a trailer, any trailer not nessecarily the one being hauled at the time. I know that now, the tractor units we use still have three disc holders in the cab, but only carry two discs, truck tax and O-Disc, and the trailers have a holder for a disc on the bottom left front corner of the trailer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 Thanks Catkins, that makes sense. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted April 3, 2014 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted April 3, 2014 Thanks again everyone, very helpful. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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