RMweb Gold toboldlygo Posted November 5, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 5, 2017 Just to throw a spanner in the works... 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachmann Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 And another................ 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Hroth Posted November 6, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 6, 2017 68950_inworks.jpg Lancaster_24.jpg moon_05_11_17.jpg Just to throw a spanner in the works... I suppose that the J50 might have shunted payloads for the Lancaster! And then Dum dum dum dummmmmmmmmmm "This is the BBC, here are some messages" "The Speckled Goose Flies In The Moonlight....." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold toboldlygo Posted November 6, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 6, 2017 I suppose that the J50 might have shunted payloads for the Lancaster! And then Dum dum dum dummmmmmmmmmm "This is the BBC, here are some messages" "The Speckled Goose Flies In The Moonlight....." Shush, you're not supposed have told anyone that the MiM have fully operational Moon based ASDR - that's Air-Smoothing Death Ray to those don't know.... Mind you, it can be covered up as rogue fireworks at the moment 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
roythebus Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 To me the main thing is the exquisite modelling, I find it quite astounding for the price. Same with this much edited photo of the Rails Duchess of Hamilton in 1948... backing up for another express turn on the WCML. 46229_duchess_portrait50_1948_2abcd_r1200.jpg Meanwhile, my attentions turn to the hard-working N15s on the Southern, and the differences between the Urie and Maunsell locos, after reading more O S Nock anecdotes about them, I used to think the le Maitre funnels looked a bit odd on an N15 but in reading about how fast these engines actually were, my opinion has changed. 30737_N15_portrait1_1a_full_r1200.jpg Actually, who could doubt the magnificence of Hornby RTR modelling in 2008, and the many variations on this superb class of engines? 785_N15_portrait2_2abcde_full_r1200.jpg cheers Ships have funnels, locomotives have chimneys. Yours faithfully, Disgusted, Tunbridge Wells. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robmcg Posted November 6, 2017 Author Share Posted November 6, 2017 Ships have funnels, locomotives have chimneys. Yours faithfully, Disgusted, Tunbridge Wells. I blame the NHS. and the failed education system and the English Language, oh, and Theresa. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robmcg Posted November 6, 2017 Author Share Posted November 6, 2017 (edited) And another................ WEB GCR Atlantic.jpg Nice work, coach. edit; I'll see that and raise you one. Based on a pic on p57 of O S Nock's 'A History of the LMS 2 The Record-Breaking 'Thirties 1931-39' of 6212 passing Thankerton with the up 'Mid-Day Scot'. Lovely Hornby models! Edited November 6, 2017 by robmcg 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Decorum Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 Ships have funnels, locomotives have chimneys. Yours faithfully, Disgusted, Tunbridge Wells. C’mon Rob! You’re the photo-editing expert. Do us a loco with a ship’s funnel please! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robmcg Posted November 7, 2017 Author Share Posted November 7, 2017 C’mon Rob! You’re the photo-editing expert. Do us a loco with a ship’s funnel please! Dunno why I wrote 'funnel' where I should have written 'chimney'. I can't blame senility, so I'll blame Theresa May. Everyone else does... Moving quickly along, it's still a toss-up betwixt N15 and B17 with Schools in there somewhere.... 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robmcg Posted November 8, 2017 Author Share Posted November 8, 2017 (edited) Something a bit more LMS.... Stanier's finest on the 'Mid-Day Scot' in 1938. One again based on pictures in O S Nock's 'A History of the LMS 2 The Record-Breaking 'Thirties 1931-39' which show the Duchess of Atholl' on this particular train, with very much this degree of weathering, that is, almost none, just that beautiful polished sheen on the cylinders etc... The Mid-Day Scot was the hardest turn on the LMS during these years, often loaded to 16 or 17 total, although some carriages were removed-added at various points of the 400-mile run. 500+ tons was common over the hardest parts in the north. Princess class engines pioneered the 1936 accelerated schedules, I'm not sure if it was further accelerated for 1938, where the Princess Coronatins may have been available. It was a severe test of men and machines, the engines running big mileages without a break. I just unpacked this Hornby new model, looks perfect, runs perfectly. (as if there was any doubt!) How can a lover of steam railways not buy one of these superb models? Or several.... cheers, Edited November 8, 2017 by robmcg 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robmcg Posted November 9, 2017 Author Share Posted November 9, 2017 (edited) frosty morning effect south of Carstairs, preparing for Beattock..... I recall taking pics on such days in the 1960s and smoke was often quite like this. The sun always shone too.... edit p.s. this is from a separate photo of the model at a slightly different angle... believe it or not. edited to change incorrect 'Carnforth' to 'Carstairs'... sorry. And the train is passing Thankerton. Edited November 9, 2017 by robmcg 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robmcg Posted November 9, 2017 Author Share Posted November 9, 2017 which is better value...? Both £189. or cheers 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Hilux5972 Posted November 9, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 9, 2017 Definitely the Duchess! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachmann Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 (edited) More care needs to be taken with crimson lake now that Hornby has got it right! I have attempted to correct an earlier image.... Edited November 9, 2017 by coachmann 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold MikeParkin65 Posted November 9, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 9, 2017 which is better value...? Both £189. 47996_Garratt_2a_r1200.jpg or 46229_Duchess_NRM_1abcde_r1200.jpg cheers Not even a question! Duchess everytime Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold toboldlygo Posted November 9, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 9, 2017 Not even a question! Duchess everytime Especially with the self-destructing motor issue, that has plague the Garratt's.. Definitely the Duchess! And the incorrectly handed Early Totems... Plus the Garratt is the completely wrong shade of Crimson Lake 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 81C Posted November 9, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 9, 2017 frosty morning effect south of Carnforth, preparing for Beattock..... I recall taking pics on such days in the 1960s and smoke was often quite like this. The sun always shone too.... 6231_Princess_Duchess_Atholl_country2_1abcde_r1200.jpg edit p.s. this is from a separate photo of the model at a slightly different angle... believe it or not. The clouds are low in that location. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Ian Hargrave Posted November 9, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 9, 2017 frosty morning effect south of Carnforth, preparing for Beattock..... I recall taking pics on such days in the 1960s and smoke was often quite like this. The sun always shone too.... 6231_Princess_Duchess_Atholl_country2_1abcde_r1200.jpg edit p.s. this is from a separate photo of the model at a slightly different angle... believe it or not. Sorry for the pedantry,Rob but are those hills or clouds in the background ? If you meant Carnforth then it's Grayrigg ,followed by Shap. Beattock is way to the North and way over the border in Scotland. The preserved 46233 has tackled all three....and Aisgill with some distinction over the last few years..twice with me getting my eyes full of nostalgic smut as I did the forbidden head out of window bit....truly unforgettable. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold toboldlygo Posted November 9, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 9, 2017 Time for a distraction... The Lanc does a roll .... Nearly time for another blog entry 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robmcg Posted November 9, 2017 Author Share Posted November 9, 2017 (edited) Sorry for the pedantry,Rob but are those hills or clouds in the background ? If you meant Carnforth then it's Grayrigg ,followed by Shap. Beattock is way to the North and way over the border in Scotland. The preserved 46233 has tackled all three....and Aisgill with some distinction over the last few years..twice with me getting my eyes full of nostalgic smut as I did the forbidden head out of window bit....truly unforgettable. Sorry I meant Carstairs, the train is passing Thankerton heading south, and they are definitely hills in the background, similar to two previous pics.,and in the pic on p.57 of Nock's book 'A History of the LMS 2. The Record-Breaking 'Thirties 1931-39'... on which the pic is accurately based. I have a real problem with a lazy brain. Sorry. I will fix the caption. (Sighing at my own ineptitude) You might see Ian that in two of the pics there are Scottish-style route indicators? on the top lamp bracket, I don't know why I wrote 'Carnforth', I even get mixed up with Preston and other towns. At least I didn't say it was 'near Guildford' (which is where Swindon is). Edited November 9, 2017 by robmcg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robmcg Posted November 9, 2017 Author Share Posted November 9, 2017 More care needs to be taken with crimson lake now that Hornby has got it right! I have attempted to correct an earlier image.... WEB Duchess red.jpg Larry, you have simply made it more yellow, and it looks fine to me like that too. The NRM and 'my' pic over which you say more care needs to be taken are nearer to some of your own previous versions of 'correct' or 'right'. Your 'more care needs to be taken' is thus a bit strange. Do you think Hornby have got it 'right' in their box art, which is seriously darker, or in their on-line ads, which are a lot less yellow than your pic above? I don't actually a great deal either way, except I applaud Hornby for the colour and finish on the recent Duchess models. With variable monitors and especially printing you will never get a perfectly 'right' or 'wrong' reproduction. In my opinion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robmcg Posted November 9, 2017 Author Share Posted November 9, 2017 Just received a Hornby H class SECR colours, magnificent! But opening the box was a prolonged and painful exercise... I have had a few tight sleeve-boxes but this was the worst ever, it required a flat blade insertion from every angle and depth, and many minutes of chanting and prayer before the sleeve would move, and then only with great force (supplied by a female). I was thinking that I might have to destroy it in order to open it for a while. Looks good though! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robmcg Posted November 9, 2017 Author Share Posted November 9, 2017 (edited) Especially with the self-destructing motor issue, that has plague the Garratt's.. And the incorrectly handed Early Totems... Plus the Garratt is the completely wrong shade of Crimson Lake Peasant! I accept the Garratts may have some motor issues but I think they may be over-represented in places like RMweb, only Hattons would know the truth. None of the many I have owned (and sold) were faulty, and I sold 10 a few years ago and had zero come-backs. I actually broke even on them too, which is rare for me! actually as an aside if I bought and sold as a 'cottage industry' I could offset trading 'losses' against tax, but that would require paperwork, and as a capitalist running dog, that would be anathema... With recent Duchesses opened and tested I have a 100% perfect rate from a large sample, (2), but some of the experiences in other threads you would think this unusual, same with mazak rot zero experience of it hundreds of models stored in dry medium temperatures low humidity... As to 'Plus the Garratt is the completely wrong shade of Crimson Lake ' Don't tell Larry Goddard! Edit 2; My Sir William , just unpacked, has bent valve gear and a loose body, slidebar not located in cylinder assembly, won't run without jamming, will have to be posted back to UK for refund or replacement. Edited November 9, 2017 by robmcg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachmann Posted November 10, 2017 Share Posted November 10, 2017 (edited) Larry, you have simply made it more yellow, and it looks fine to me like that too. The NRM and 'my' pic over which you say more care needs to be taken are nearer to some of your own previous versions of 'correct' or 'right'. Your 'more care needs to be taken' is thus a bit strange. Do you think Hornby have got it 'right' in their box art, which is seriously darker, or in their on-line ads, which are a lot less yellow than your pic above? I don't actually a great deal either way, except I applaud Hornby for the colour and finish on the recent Duchess models. With variable monitors and especially printing you will never get a perfectly 'right' or 'wrong' reproduction. In my opinion. I was asked to assist with the crimson lake. This was a serious business all round because changing a colour is a brave move. So I thought you should take a little more care about using other peoples images and altering the colour. There was nothing strange about my remark at all and in fact I notice you thanked me! Edited November 10, 2017 by coachmann Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robmcg Posted November 10, 2017 Author Share Posted November 10, 2017 I was asked to assist with the crimson lake. This was a serious business all round because changing a colour is a brave move. So I thought you should take a little more care about using other peoples images and altering the colour. There was nothing strange about my remark at all and in fact I notice you thanked me! I didn't alter the colour on the NRM/Locomtion image, Larry. I did change brightness and contrast a tad. I thanked you because it's nice to have opinions about what is correct, and the NRM image, (and consequently my version with vignette and front steps etc) is in your experienced and expert opinion not quite right. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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