RMweb Gold The Johnster Posted January 7, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 7, 2017 Here is Hornby and TMC 70034 'Thomas Hardy' after appropriate (or inappropriate) attention with PSP6. Work-stained Eastern Region engine, R H N Hardy would have insisted on attention from cleaners, but they did do high miles on regular rosters... besides, it's how we remember Standard Brits is it not? 70034_Britannia_portrait12_3ab_r1200.jpg here, possibly repeated by me, apologies, as produced by Hornby 70034_Britannia_portrait20_3ab_crop1_r1200.jpg And to think it all started with this... Britannia_70000_March_1951_1a_r1200.jpg Back to Black 5s and GW Counties now. The way the 2 clean locos are posed and lit reminds me very much of the Vic Welch paintings you used to get in the frontispiece of the Ian Allan ABC Combined... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold toboldlygo Posted January 11, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 11, 2017 Busy few days for me... First up, another of the superb S15's and one that Hornby haven't done (I suspect I'll have done both batches before they do it) 30839 on a Late Crest (Left Facing) with AWS. I'd been putting this one of as they always need some fettling - Bachmann's Standard 'Arthur' 5MT 73086 The Green Knight (It's actually finished, but I ran out of daylight to photograph it) And finally the King - King Henry IV to be precise... Photo taken, before it entered the dirt works... 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold toboldlygo Posted January 16, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 16, 2017 (edited) A quick update of two of the victims in my last post, which are both now finally complete.. First up in the dark blue corner and after some surgery is Standard Arthur 73086 The Green Knight In the red corner and a little to clean for me, King Class 6020 King Henry IV Also in the medium blue corner is a DP2 which is in the paint shop. And in the Red & Yellow (Railroad) corner and about to be started is another Crosti. The last two are proving a little camera shy Edited January 16, 2017 by toboldlygo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold gwrrob Posted January 16, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 16, 2017 In the red corner and a little to clean for me, King Class 6020 King Henry IV Too dirty if you ask me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold toboldlygo Posted January 16, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 16, 2017 Too dirty if you ask me. Sounds like someone wants a free trip to the RSPP/Spamcan Society's re-education facility on Cuba Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold gwrrob Posted January 16, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 16, 2017 Sounds like someone wants a free trip to the RSPP/Spamcan Society's re-education facility on Cuba I have you know I possess one of those from Hornby and that's not as filthy as your King. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold toboldlygo Posted January 16, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 16, 2017 I have you know I possess one of those from Hornby and that's not as filthy as your King. post-126-0-70850700-1484389959.jpg You own Anti-Aircraft Command and it's in the livery.... All hail the Grand Inquisitor!!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachmann Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 (edited) My views on mucky Kings are well known . I have to ask, has anyone come across cine or photos of a really really dirty 'King'? In some respects it was fortunate they were withdrawn before swathes of the Western Region disappeared up the backside of the London Midland Region with the inevitable results. The state of Manors, Halls and Granges in 1965 was enough to make one weep. Edited January 16, 2017 by coachmann Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold toboldlygo Posted January 16, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 16, 2017 My views on mucky Kings are well known . I have to ask, has anyone come across cine or photos of a really really dirty 'King'? In some respects it was fortunate they were withdrawn before swathes of the Western Region disappeared up the backside of the London Midland Region with the inevitable results. The state of Manors, Halls and Granges in 1965 was enough to make one weep. I based King Henry IV on photo from April 1961 (page 92 of Great Western Kings - Haynes Great Locomotives Series) - just be thankful it wasn't page 96... 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Ian Hargrave Posted January 16, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 16, 2017 I have you know I possess one of those from Hornby and that's not as filthy as your King. post-126-0-70850700-1484389959.jpg I saw one once on Dainton bank hauling a Plymouth - Newton Abbot train. Not in sunshine though.They worked regular turns to ensure the footplate crews knew the road in case of diversion from the Southern road via Okehamton .Well observed,Robin.Sunshine and chocolate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachmann Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 I based King Henry IV on photo from April 1961 (page 92 of Great Western Kings - Haynes Great Locomotives Series) - just be thankful it wasn't page 96... Ah, I dont have that book, but obviously I take your word for it. I am quite a fan of B&R Video and no really dirty 'Kings' have shown up on their series of videos so far. The reason I mentioned video is the cine camera would start to roll while the train was still some distance away and so if the loco turned out to be filthy, it was a case of tuff because it was too late. It was different with stills-photographers who could ignore the dirty locos and only photograph the relatively clean ones. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 Is this dirty enough? http://www.warwickshirerailways.com/gwr/gwrl2522.htm Jason 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold toboldlygo Posted January 16, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 16, 2017 Ah, I dont have that book, but obviously I take your word for it. I am quite a fan of B&R Video and no really dirty 'Kings' have shown up on their series of videos so far. The reason I mentioned video is the cine camera would start to roll while the train was still some distance away and so if the loco turned out to be filthy, it was a case of tuff because it was too late. It was different with stills-photographers who could ignore the dirty locos and only photograph the relatively clean ones. And those stills photographers would ignore the likes of the Kings/Merchant Navies/Princesses on mundane workings as well.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 A good place to find colour photographs of dirty engines is the Robert Adley books. I know they are sometimes not very good photographs but they were often of filthy locomotives that many photographers didn't bother with. Unlike others he could probably afford to "waste" colour film on dirty engines. Jason Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold toboldlygo Posted January 16, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 16, 2017 A good place to find colour photographs of dirty engines is the Robert Adley books. I know they are sometimes not very good photographs but they were often of filthy locomotives that many photographers didn't bother with. Unlike others he could probably afford to "waste" colour film on dirty engines. Jason Obviously they are top shelf locomotive porn Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 Where's the groan button? Jason Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold toboldlygo Posted January 16, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 16, 2017 Where's the groan button? Jason Joking aside, looking on Amazon Robert Adley has a few books to his name - which do you recommend Jason? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachmann Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 The photo via Jason's link shows some shine on the top side of the firebox and I wonder if a side-on view on better quality film stock might show a different story. Surface dirt bounces light back; in some cases more and in others less. Nevertheless, I am won over. I wont sleep tonight.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 (edited) Robert Adley's books are. British Steam in Cameracolour. Shepperton: Ian Allan. 1979. In Search of Steam 1962–1968. Poole: Blandford Press. 1981. The Call Of Steam. Poole: Blandford Press. 1982. To China for Steam. Poole: Blandford Press. 1983. All Change Hong Kong. Poole: Blandford Press. 1984. In Praise of Steam. Poole: Blandford Press. 1985. Wheels. Shepperton: Ian Allan. 1987. Covering My Tracks. Wellingborough: Patrick Stephens Ltd. 1988. Out of Steam. Wellingborough: Patrick Stephens Ltd. 1990. Countdown to 1968 – The Decline And Fall of Steam. Poole: Oxford Publishing Co. 1993 Of these I've got British Steam in Cameracolour which is mostly a photo album. In Search Of Steam and The Call Of Steam partly photo album, part travelogue/history and part autobiography. Countdown to 1968 – The Decline And Fall of Steam.is a year by year guide to what was happening to steam in the 1960s with photographs from his collection. These are worth buying. But I wouldn't pay much for them, about £3 or £4 at most. I also noticed they had some of them in The Works recently with American locomotives on the cover. That's a total red herring as it's all British steam. Jason Edited January 16, 2017 by Steamport Southport Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold toboldlygo Posted January 17, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 17, 2017 Robert Adley's books are. British Steam in Cameracolour. Shepperton: Ian Allan. 1979. In Search of Steam 1962–1968. Poole: Blandford Press. 1981. The Call Of Steam. Poole: Blandford Press. 1982. To China for Steam. Poole: Blandford Press. 1983. All Change Hong Kong. Poole: Blandford Press. 1984. In Praise of Steam. Poole: Blandford Press. 1985. Wheels. Shepperton: Ian Allan. 1987. Covering My Tracks. Wellingborough: Patrick Stephens Ltd. 1988. Out of Steam. Wellingborough: Patrick Stephens Ltd. 1990. Countdown to 1968 – The Decline And Fall of Steam. Poole: Oxford Publishing Co. 1993 Of these I've got British Steam in Cameracolour which is mostly a photo album. In Search Of Steam and The Call Of Steam partly photo album, part travelogue/history and part autobiography. Countdown to 1968 – The Decline And Fall of Steam.is a year by year guide to what was happening to steam in the 1960s with photographs from his collection. These are worth buying. But I wouldn't pay much for them, about £3 or £4 at most. I also noticed they had some of them in The Works recently with American locomotives on the cover. That's a total red herring as it's all British steam. Jason Got In Search of Steam (1962-68) en-route from Amazon for the eye-watering price of £2.81 including Prime delivery!! In the meantime a Crosti in baby poo brown Factory weathering is on my workbench... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Hroth Posted January 17, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 17, 2017 Got In Search of Steam (1962-68) en-route from Amazon for the eye-watering price of £2.81 including Prime delivery!! In the meantime a Crosti in baby poo brown Factory weathering is on my workbench... DSC_0701.jpg I call the factory weathering "slurry pit weathering" as it looks like the loco has been driven at speed through a disgustingly dirty farmyard! Amd. of course, at this time of year you can see plenty of small dogs with similar colour schemes after a nice muddy walk...... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Metr0Land Posted January 17, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 17, 2017 I had one of those from Rails for £79.50 delivered in the Xmas sale. Too good to miss at that price and for a few hours work you can get a decent loco. I didn't want the weathering too skanky, and was happy to keep the same number. I haven't plucked up the courage to attempt to add brake shoes yet. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold toboldlygo Posted January 17, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 17, 2017 I had one of those from Rails for £79.50 delivered in the Xmas sale. Too good to miss at that price and for a few hours work you can get a decent loco. I didn't want the weathering too skanky, and was happy to keep the same number. I haven't plucked up the courage to attempt to add brake shoes yet. Oh Rails and their bargains 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold toboldlygo Posted January 17, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 17, 2017 I had one of those from Rails for £79.50 delivered in the Xmas sale. Too good to miss at that price and for a few hours work you can get a decent loco. I didn't want the weathering too skanky, and was happy to keep the same number. I haven't plucked up the courage to attempt to add brake shoes yet. You have altered the pony truck and affixed the front steps to the running-plate though (something I have never done on any of the Crosti's that have graced my workbench). My 92021 has become 92022 (just the cabside numbers to add) - my first Crosti (August 2015) became 92021 on a late crest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Metr0Land Posted January 17, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 17, 2017 (edited) You have altered the pony truck and affixed the front steps to the running-plate though (something I have never done on any of the Crosti's that have graced my workbench). My 92021 has become 92022 (just the cabside numbers to add) - my first Crosti (August 2015) became 92021 on a late crest. 92021_lh.jpg Don't forget, if you do this, you then need to chop a little bit more off the remaining pony truck, or it will foul the steps in their new position. Just cutting the steps off isn't good enough. How do I know this??? Not visible in this side-on shot is that I added a dummy screw-link coupling on front. The Hornby part X.5069 (good choice of number!) is IMHO a nice cosmetic detail when added to relevant locos, £3.99 + p/p on Hornby site. Edit: The Dave Franks/Lanarkshire models loco lamps are much better size than most on the market. Edited January 17, 2017 by Metr0Land Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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