mewstone Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 Does anyone know how well the forthcoming Hitachi IEP bimodal trains will cope with the waves? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granitechops Posted December 25, 2015 Share Posted December 25, 2015 (edited) Derelict house, where concrete pipes were run through the garden to deliver to seawall seen in august and seen in December somebody got moving, notice red pantiles replaced with new slate roof, glazing fixed, garage built just above railway & new paint job, garden tidied, wonder if it will soon be on the market? down at Coryton Cove Replacement beach huts being painted ready for placement over new pavement of 50 mm slabs damaged in fire. BEWARE new steps by washout are heavily coated with seaweed /algae especially on the outside where there are NO handrails Wed 23rd Dec Groyne 1 leaning over due to under scouring so much so that the top one of these 2 boards, is normally just at sand level, the beach goer here has to just duck a bit to pass under looks like pin failure in the support fitted in spring this year EDIT, last year photo March 2014 Photo Dec 2015 because the boards are now not stopping northward drift of sands, the beach level has dropped so that there is a drop of 15 ins at the end of the slipway but now today Friday 25th Dec the groyne has collapsed further EDIT;- so as to make life more interesting to disabled in wheel chairs, mobility scooters, mothers with buggys & TWIN buggys, there has recently appeared four chicanes, to supposedly deter cyclists, which it doesnt as I witnessed one cycle through without stopping, mind you he also had ridden along the wall from the direction of the Warren through wave spray 20ft high, so maybe if he ignored the waves, maybe he did not even see the chicanes either Edited December 25, 2015 by Granitechops 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bike2steam Posted January 1, 2016 Share Posted January 1, 2016 (edited) There's a couple of interesting videos on the Dawlish Museum fb page. https://www.facebook.com/Dawlish-Museum-365561793551129/?pnref=story Edited January 1, 2016 by bike2steam Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
D826 Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 There's a couple of interesting videos on the Dawlish Museum fb page. https://www.facebook.com/Dawlish-Museum-365561793551129/?pnref=story Interesting info on the museum website thanks for the link Paul. On the museum website theres a link to a story in the Dawlish Gazette around December 15th concerning the end of the Western Staff Association Camping Coaches with the site reportedly closing at the end of the 2016 season. Speaking personally, it'll be very sad to see the camping coaches at the Warren - Brunel Holiday Park - have had their chips at the end of the 2016 season. Photos and vids of steam specials, and Western Champion of course, just won't look the same without the camping coaches in the picture. I remember the previous coaches - in various shades of yellow and sky blue in the early 70's. There was still a connection into the yard where they are situated from the up loop then - I've a dim memory of a picture of a 31 taking them away in one of the railway mags. I recall being really pleased when the current chocolate and cream coaches replaced them and thinking one must be an Inspection saloon. Just more change at the Warren I suppose. Makes me feel old remembering the old footbridge, semaphores, signal box, the up side timber building with the model railway in it, which was a must visit with my family and what got me started on an interest in model railways.....not to mention the plate layers hut up by the Langstone Rock, or the ride on miniature railway at the Warren - with a faux Western diesel. Happy memories. Regards Matt Wood 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium phil-b259 Posted January 3, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 3, 2016 (edited) As an observation, have the authorities responsible for Dawlish ever given any thought to doing a decent 'upgrade' to the beach. I say this because in the early 1980s we regularly went to see my Grandparents who lived near Bournemouth - and for many years the levels of sand on the beach at Bournemouth were extremely low. One year however the council bit the bullet, installed new groynes and bought in vast quantities of sand via dredging to build up the beach again by a good 6ft and make the thing far better for tourists plus more storm resilient into the bargain. Edited January 3, 2016 by phil-b259 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dunsignalling Posted January 3, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 3, 2016 Does anyone know how well the forthcoming Hitachi IEP bimodal trains will cope with the waves? Not until they try one............. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granitechops Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 I havent been down there today, but it appears that overnight, part of the chicane by the Dawish viaduct was ripped off the seawall by the waves see If I can get a photo soon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith George Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 Interesting info on the museum website thanks for the link Paul. On the museum website theres a link to a story in the Dawlish Gazette around December 15th concerning the end of the Western Staff Association Camping Coaches with the site reportedly closing at the end of the 2016 season. Speaking personally, it'll be very sad to see the camping coaches at the Warren - Brunel Holiday Park - have had their chips at the end of the 2016 season. Photos and vids of steam specials, and Western Champion of course, just won't look the same without the camping coaches in the picture. I remember the previous coaches - in various shades of yellow and sky blue in the early 70's. There was still a connection into the yard where they are situated from the up loop then - I've a dim memory of a picture of a 31 taking them away in one of the railway mags. I recall being really pleased when the current chocolate and cream coaches replaced them and thinking one must be an Inspection saloon. Just more change at the Warren I suppose. Makes me feel old remembering the old footbridge, semaphores, signal box, the up side timber building with the model railway in it, which was a must visit with my family and what got me started on an interest in model railways.....not to mention the plate layers hut up by the Langstone Rock, or the ride on miniature railway at the Warren - with a faux Western diesel. Happy memories. Regards Matt Wood It is a great pity that the camping coaches at Dawlish Warren are coming to a end. I first stayed in them 25+ years ago , we used to take our children there. The last time was just a few days after the line was re-opened in 2014, we then took the Grandchildren. But at that time it was obvious the end had to be coming as they were in a very neglected state. It appeared that they had very little attention for a long time. Keith. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianusa Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 Its beginning to sound s though they should have gone long ago! Brian. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bike2steam Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 (edited) As an observation, have the authorities responsible for Dawlish ever given any thought to doing a decent 'upgrade' to the beach. I say this because in the early 1980s we regularly went to see my Grandparents who lived near Bournemouth - and for many years the levels of sand on the beach at Bournemouth were extremely low. One year however the council bit the bullet, installed new groynes and bought in vast quantities of sand via dredging to build up the beach again by a good 6ft and make the thing far better for tourists plus more storm resilient into the bargain.The difference between Bournemouth, and Dawlish is the strength of 'longshore drift', combined with angle of beach, Dawlish is far greater in both than Bournemouth so making it a very expensive job. Bournemouth, have done the job a few times, but their tourism numbers are far greater. Dawlish would probably be better served by large rocks/boulders than sand. edit Add http://uk.search.yahoo.com/search?ei=utf-8&fr=slv8-hpd10&p=longshore%20drift%20at%20dawlish&type= Edited January 4, 2016 by bike2steam Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Captain Kernow Posted January 3, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 3, 2016 Dawlish would probably be better served by large rocks/boulders than sand. Not whilst there is a very long masonry wall to maintain. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bike2steam Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 True, easier to get at an undermined wall without rocks either being in the way, or pounding a wall like battering rams during a storm. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob F Posted January 4, 2016 Author Share Posted January 4, 2016 It is a great pity that the camping coaches at Dawlish Warren are coming to a end. I first stayed in them 25+ years ago , we used to take our children there. The last time was just a few days after the line was re-opened in 2014, we then took the Grandchildren. But at that time it was obvious the end had to be coming as they were in a very neglected state. It appeared that they had very little attention for a long time. Keith. We have taken our children to them regularly over the years, the last time being in October 2014. They offer very basic accomodation but the insides were always clean which is vital. The exteriors are deteriorating rapidly, especially Plymouth, the ex LMS observation car that we always stayed in, I guess because it is older than the rest. I have seen photos that show when the current batch of coaches were delivered there were two observation coaches at the Warren end but in my experience there has only been one. Does anyone know when and why the second one was removed? Rob Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob F Posted January 6, 2016 Author Share Posted January 6, 2016 It seems that the second observation saloon was moved to Fencote, see: http://www.bbc.co.uk/herefordandworcester/culture/2003/05/lost_railway_03.shtml It was named Cardiff and there is a picture of both it and Plymouth immediately after outshopping from Swindon in 1981 here: http://www.philt.org.uk/Misc/Rolling-Stock/i-McMRCQf I still don't know when, why and how it was moved. Rob Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith George Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 Cardiff was still there in 1992/3 as we stayed in it then. Keith. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granitechops Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 (edited) Fleeting shot of NWR "stone blower" taken yesterday and condition of hand rail/ chicane at Dawlish viaduct Edited January 8, 2016 by Granitechops 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold RedgateModels Posted January 8, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 8, 2016 Fleeting shot of NWR "stone blower" taken yesterday DSC04885-R40.jpg DR80211 transiting to Newton Abbott Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium corneliuslundie Posted January 8, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 8, 2016 That is more dangerous than not having the chicane. It forces you near the edge without protecting you. It needs fixing soon before someone goes over. But is that storm damage? I rather doubt it as the supports for the rail are still there. Jonathhan PS Take care there please. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granitechops Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 That is more dangerous than not having the chicane. It forces you near the edge without protecting you. It needs fixing soon before someone goes over. But is that storm damage? I rather doubt it as the supports for the rail are still there. Jonathhan PS Take care there please. Very true Jonathan, great care was exercised, extreme crawl, was the speed used. definately storm damage the base supports are rock anchored into the wall, but the construction of the joints is hex, allen key grubs, which are prone to loosening with vibration Oh yes life is precious, no unneccessary risks are knowingly taken new video on my youtube channel Be aware that perspective can make thinks look dangerous, the young lady standing on the break water photographing is actually in a safe place in the circumstances on that day, tide, wind direction, shelter afforded by the old cafe block. etc. 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PhilJ W Posted January 9, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 9, 2016 A brief film of Dawlish in 1923 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium uax6 Posted January 9, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 9, 2016 Makes you wonder why this wasn't expected really. They need to weld the tubes into the sockets.... I wonder to whom you should report them being missing? Andy G Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Captain Kernow Posted January 10, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 10, 2016 (edited) I wonder to whom you should report them being missing? Rest assured, repairs will be undertaken. Edited January 10, 2016 by Captain Kernow 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted January 10, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 10, 2016 Makes you wonder why this wasn't expected really. They need to weld the tubes into the sockets.... I wonder to whom you should report them being missing? Andy G The problem with welding galvanised steel is that the zinc coating apparently burns off so you then get rust around the welds which will spread underneath the galvanising and the things collapse. Through bolting would be better provided the bolt holes are also galvanised. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Siberian Snooper Posted January 11, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 11, 2016 The problem with welding galvanised steel is that the zinc coating apparently burns off so you then get rust around the welds which will spread underneath the galvanising and the things collapse. Through bolting would be better provided the bolt holes are also galvanised. Not only that, but the welding process gives off cyanide gas, I know this first hand as I was working in a compartment where galvanised steel was being welded and the fumes made me nauseous, I was given a pint of milk and told to stay out in the fresh air. The welding was stopped until a proper extraction system was put in. This was pre elf n safety. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granitechops Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 A couple of weeks ago the broken railings were REMOVED, then a wave surge damaged the station roof ripping some of the new guttering put up last year in the last few days the corner of the small stone enclosure around the outfall of Dawlish Brook has been undermined affecting about 20 ft of stonework, as its highish tide cant see how far its undermined will put up photos later Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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