RMweb Premium Mallard60022 Posted October 21, 2017 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted October 21, 2017 I think it was a substitute. Oh that Ooooooooooh. Tommy. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Tim Dubya Posted October 21, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 21, 2017 (edited) Rock on... . Edited October 21, 2017 by Tim Dubya Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold NHY 581 Posted October 21, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 21, 2017 I think it was a substitute. Ah!......The superbly named Clout....who could forget them.. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigwordsmith Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 Why are those women in their underwear? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 81C Posted October 21, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 21, 2017 I believe he's a Welsher. Screenshot_20171021-104345.png Did you mis-spell that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Tim Dubya Posted October 21, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 21, 2017 Did you mis-spell that. Sorry, Welshun' Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mallard60022 Posted October 21, 2017 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted October 21, 2017 Feeble attempt at modelling alert! At last I went up The Junction to see if I could sort out why one point at the FY West exit/entrance has half a frog live or a half live frog....whatever. I tried testing the trickery with my testy thing and it just would not play the game. One way the point works works, the other way one part of the frog seems dead! It isn't the end of the world as stuff can exit another way but that isn't what I want. Huge Pah! One attempt at redoing the wiring resulted in almost frying a DCC 80; strange smell that I recoginseed from previous 'failures'. DCC 80 has not died though as they are tough little b#####s. Tomorrow I may take the point up and just double check the modification. Bo##ocks to that today though and so I stuffed an 8pin 'plug in' Decoder in 82016, having run '16 in. It works fine but showed me where yet another frog problem was lurking east end station main. It is all to do with wheel base I have decided so maybe stay alives will be required? However, I just refitted a DCC 80 I had removed from this point thinking it was working OK (it was with LWB and tender pick up loco's) and '16 was fine and there were no burning smells. All too weird for me. Argyle have actually won away today so I am in shock and can not do any more for now. Laters. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgman Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 Ref your 'lectrikery, have you bonded the rails as per Pickyboos mods ? I found a similar problem once and it turned out to be a dry joint so took it out and re-sodded re-soldered it and guess what, it worked . Worth a look maybe mate. W.Otdoiknow 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Tim Dubya Posted October 21, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 21, 2017 Just remember Quackers... Two wires You have my deepest symphony over this AC/DC decoder thingy whatsit stuff. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mallard60022 Posted October 21, 2017 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted October 21, 2017 Ref your 'lectrikery, have you bonded the rails as per Pickyboos mods ? I found a similar problem once and it turned out to be a dry joint so took it out and re-sodded re-soldered it and guess what, it worked . Worth a look maybe mate. W.Otdoiknow I have dry joints but I had not checked the point for that; thanks matey. I shall get some Olive Oil ready. O.H.Flux Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mallard60022 Posted October 21, 2017 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted October 21, 2017 (edited) Just remember Quackers... Two wires You have my deepest symphony over this AC/DC decoder thingy whatsit stuff. Oh, It's 2 wires. I forgotted the second one................... Crimp Endsoff Edited October 21, 2017 by Mallard60022 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianusa Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 Feeble attempt at modelling alert! At last I went up The Junction to see if I could sort out why one point at the FY West exit/entrance has half a frog live or a half live frog....whatever. I tried testing the trickery with my testy thing and it just would not play the game. One way the point works works, the other way one part of the frog seems dead! It isn't the end of the world as stuff can exit another way but that isn't what I want. Huge Pah! One attempt at redoing the wiring resulted in almost frying a DCC 80; strange smell that I recoginseed from previous 'failures'. DCC 80 has not died though as they are tough little b#####s. Tomorrow I may take the point up and just double check the modification. Bo##ocks to that today though and so I stuffed an 8pin 'plug in' Decoder in 82016, having run '16 in. It works fine but showed me where yet another frog problem was lurking east end station main. It is all to do with wheel base I have decided so maybe stay alives will be required? However, I just refitted a DCC 80 I had removed from this point thinking it was working OK (it was with LWB and tender pick up loco's) and '16 was fine and there were no burning smells. All too weird for me. Argyle have actually won away today so I am in shock and can not do any more for now. Laters. Toy trains are supposed to be fun, Phil! I learn more about Argyle here and from my cousin in Germany. Not exactly a fan but a left over interest from the old days but they don't seem to improve with age! Brian. Brian. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mallard60022 Posted October 21, 2017 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted October 21, 2017 Toy trains are supposed to be fun, Phil! I learn more about Argyle here and from my cousin in Germany. Not exactly a fan but a left over interest from the old days but they don't seem to improve with age! Brian. Brian. Don't get me wrong Brian, I'm having loads fo fun but I really dislike being baffled. That's probably why I just can't not want to know how Argyle have got on as I know I'm going to be truly baffled every danm game. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 81C Posted October 21, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 21, 2017 (edited) Handbag are flying on the Kernow Saddle Tank thread chaps worth a read just for the laugh. Harry Carpenter Edited October 21, 2017 by 81C Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Tim Dubya Posted October 21, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 21, 2017 Toys & pram. Please don't go to PM's guys, I'm enjoying the bun fight. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigwordsmith Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 So today I made a start on building a control panel - As part of this, I realised I needed to do some carpentry, much against doctors' orders, but SWMBO had gone out with daughter and granddaughter, so WTF? I then realised I needed to sort out switches, so took back all the points I wasn't using to Guagemaster who took them back into stock against the purchase of 60 point switches and 30 section switches, plus a set of controllers. While discussing DCC, I mentioned that with 60 points on the mainline, I felt that DCC would be way to complex The manager of the shop, who was looking after me agreed, and told me that many of the DCC modellers they know have given up on DCC for running the railway and instead use analog electrickery (Bloomin 'eck I need to be careful about spellchecking that at this time of night after a few glasses of vino blanco!) and have gone for analog point management and DCC for locos. It was then that I remembered I needed some DPDT switches to enable cab control, which I am using to allow me to use a single controller from end-to-end. After digging them out, he pointed out that I'm running as good a setups DCC albeit without the sound, but at a lot less cost! He did then try to sell me a few spools of wire! 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gerbil-Fritters Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 Unpredictable things, splashers. Turning up uninvited like that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Captain Kernow Posted October 21, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 21, 2017 (edited) Shocking behaviour. Never heard the like of it. Edited October 21, 2017 by Captain Kernow 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted October 21, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 21, 2017 Handbag are flying on the Kernow Saddle Tank thread chaps worth a read just for the laugh. Harry Carpenter Oi 'Arry You could have given us a link, I have now got to find where the fun is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Tim Dubya Posted October 21, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 21, 2017 http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/89145-kernow-model-rail-centre-to-produce-gwr-1361-0-6-0-saddle-tank/page-21 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium New Haven Neil Posted October 21, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 21, 2017 I'm running out of popcorn, what with Peeeco point frogs and ickle saddletanks..... Back to t'junction. DC is fine for running trains. Using it for points and 'things' is a waste of time and dosh IMHO unless you integrate the whole thing electricerilly and comperisatorily. My mate Tony has done this with 'Alwinton' and it works fine, but he's a boffin, first class. I use DCC and have done so for 20 years, but operate points with bicycle spokes and micro-switches or DCC80.s Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted October 21, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 21, 2017 (edited) Cheers 'Arry er Tim Splashers all over. Got that one from 'Enry. What a cock up. Proves how much I follow G*R rtr, two models of a class of 5 and I bet they weren't that wide spread. A class of 5 , there were 120 class 11 shunters built for LMS, BR and WD no rtr plus six identical ones built by the WR, loads of livery variations, 112 class 302 EMUs never going to be a rtr, and what about the all the class 313,314,315,507 and 508 types loads minor variations and bags of liveries and locations, should keep a rtr manufacturer in production for years.................2 models which both are wrong (allegedly) for a class of 5 dock shunters that most trainspotters would never have seen. Which one has the right handrails....off to check bank balance I need one NOW!!!!!! Edited October 21, 2017 by Clive Mortimore 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted October 21, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 21, 2017 (edited) I'm running out of popcorn, what with Peeeco point frogs and ickle saddletanks..... Back to t'junction. DC is fine for running trains. Using it for points and 'things' is a waste of time and dosh IMHO unless you integrate the whole thing electricerilly and comperisatorily. My mate Tony has done this with 'Alwinton' and it works fine, but he's a boffin, first class. I use DCC and have done so for 20 years, but operate points with bicycle spokes and micro-switches or DCC80.s Hi Neil DCC controlled points and signals can be good. I have had the pleasure of operating Rowntree Sidings and that has DCC route setting, from memory it was press "Route" then the number of that route and bang, bang, whoosh everything was ready for me to drive my train. No control panel. But I like a big control panel, makes the person behind it look important. Having said that left to their own devices some DCC electronic bods can make things so complicated with the interface (plug to us mere mortals) to their PC which is on wireless connection with their phone and they are driving their layout while sunning themselves on the Costa Brava. Edited October 21, 2017 by Clive Mortimore 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium New Haven Neil Posted October 22, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 22, 2017 Yes, that's what I meant Clive. Alwinton has route setting on an 'N-X' panel style (which was a club standard from years ago in analogue days) but using tablets and clever programming - signals, uncouplers etc all work off the 'panels' that are actually touch sensitive tablets. It has been in the Railway Todeller recently but the article was written three years ago almost, it has developed a lot since then. I think the investment in the hardware of accessory decoders etc is a waste unless you do use a form of integration of some sort. I once operated a well known US layout at a show, which was made by one of the best US outline modellers in the UK who I'm pally with. Each point on a complex switching layout had to be operated individually from the handset - it was a nightmare. At the end of the weekend I was toast. Even noticing one of the factories on the layout had my name on it didn't compensate! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Captain Kernow Posted October 22, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 22, 2017 (edited) I may need to make an extremely serious comment in a few days. Edited October 22, 2017 by Captain Kernow Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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