Andrew P Posted April 7, 2016 Share Posted April 7, 2016 One further tip that may help on this sort of point, and that is the two little wires you have joining the Rails underneath, I tend to make them the Track feeds as well, so like the Red and Black you have soldered to the ends I just have the one feed from the two small wires linking the Rails. Just read the post above, Thanks. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Stubby47 Posted April 7, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 7, 2016 You wouldn't have any of these issues if you used Peco Bullhead points. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mallard60022 Posted April 7, 2016 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted April 7, 2016 Right that's sorted so thank you. It was very simple as far as I can see. The Peco diagram track feeds to the switch are opposite to wot I dun. So the solution was as simple as this; swap both track feeds for both points and lo it sodding well worked. HTF can I be so bl**dy dim (do not post suggestions please). Now what I have to do is try and visualise what is happening now or maybe I'll just realign the track and forget it as it works So a huge thanks to you all and I owe you a biscuit when I next see you. I'm now off to run my M7 through the cross over until it explodes. Philth 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gerbil-Fritters Posted April 7, 2016 Share Posted April 7, 2016 Not so keen on Biscuits Ducky, but I'd like a muffin please. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold gwrrob Posted April 7, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 7, 2016 Right that's sorted so thank you. It was very simple as far as I can see. The Peco diagram track feeds to the switch are opposite to wot I dun. So the solution was as simple as this; swap both track feeds for both points and lo it sodding well worked. HTF can I be so bl**dy dim (do not post suggestions please). Now what I have to do is try and visualise what is happening now or maybe I'll just realign the track and forget it as it works So a huge thanks to you all and I owe you a biscuit when I next see you. I'm now off to run my M7 through the cross over until it explodes. Philth Call it karma for all the kind gestures you've given out on here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mallard60022 Posted April 7, 2016 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted April 7, 2016 Phil this may be a rude, daft, silly question, but have you put insulating Fish Plates between the Points? Please don't shout at me. Yes, sorry Andrew and it isn't rude or daft as I am a very simple bloke and it could have been have you actually switched on the controller. I had set up the cross over exactly as per every diagram I had ever seen and how everyone had told me (thanks everyone), double IRJs and all. I had converted the points as per goodness knows how many web pages but especially the excellent Brian Lambert pages and quadruple checked them. I thought I had wired up according to Pecoboo diagrams but that appears to be where I was 'back to front'. As far as I can tell it would appear that my feeds may be opposite to what Pecoboo illustrate and that's what I just wasn't picking up.. I'm using the red wire furthest away from you method around the whole layout. I suspect that somewhere I've missed out on the logical fault checking list that so many people have offered; that's because I'm illogical. There is probably a why it doesn't work common faults checklist procedure section somewhere on the web as well and if not, there needs to be for people like me. Thanks mate, now I can get down and dirty to produce a layout that looks something approaching the standard of your lovely work. Cheers, Philth 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mallard60022 Posted April 7, 2016 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted April 7, 2016 One further tip that may help on this sort of point, and that is the two little wires you have joining the Rails underneath, I tend to make them the Track feeds as well, so like the Red and Black you have soldered to the ends I just have the one feed from the two small wires linking the Rails. Just read the post above, Thanks. I had read that ages ago as advice for DCC running and have actually got those wires on my other 'modified points', so thanks and I will reinstate those onto the links. (They were there until I got angry and chopped them off).................. P Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mallard60022 Posted April 7, 2016 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted April 7, 2016 Call it karma for all the kind gestures you've given out on here. What a very thoughtful thing to say mate. I am a lot karma now thank you. P 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mallard60022 Posted April 7, 2016 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted April 7, 2016 You wouldn't have any of these issues if you used Peco Bullhead points. Do you also think it would be wise for me not to wire up the Tunnel for smoke effects? P Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium dhjgreen Posted April 7, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 7, 2016 Phew. Anyway, during this all going the shape of various fruits, I posted this. http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/81400-sos-junction/?p=2264777 It seems you may no longer be a duck Mr Falcon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Stubby47 Posted April 7, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 7, 2016 Do you also think it would be wise for me not to wire up the Tunnel for smoke effects? P Nah, go for it ! What can possibly go wrong ? I'm adding smoke effects to the PSMT... (shhh, it's a secret) 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgman Posted April 7, 2016 Share Posted April 7, 2016 Nah, go for it ! What can possibly go wrong ? I'm adding smoke effects to the PSMT... (shhh, it's a secret) Wills Whiffs or Woodbine ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mallard60022 Posted April 7, 2016 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted April 7, 2016 Phew. Anyway, during this all going the shape of various fruits, I posted this. http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/81400-sos-junction/?p=2264777 It seems you may no longer be a duck Mr Falcon. I was a little confused by that one and probably didn't get to the hacking of a Mallard to convert it to something like a Kestrel. Is that what happened? P Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mallard60022 Posted April 7, 2016 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted April 7, 2016 No Wills Whiffs or Woodbine ? No.6 ! I do hope you don't remember those..... P Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium dhjgreen Posted April 7, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 7, 2016 A4 60022 Mallard -To - A4 4903 Peregrine War Time Black Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mallard60022 Posted April 7, 2016 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted April 7, 2016 Actually, I don't need to wire up for smoke effects, I just need to operate some stuff and when it gets to the end double junctions and frog juicers there will be conflagrations galore.................ummmmmmm! P A4 60022 Mallard -To - A4 4903 Peregrine War Time Black Oh yes, my little black number. I 'd forgotten that. Ta. P Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted April 7, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 7, 2016 Good sorted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mallard60022 Posted April 7, 2016 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted April 7, 2016 A4 60022 Mallard -To - A4 4903 Peregrine War Time Black Is this me? P 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium St Enodoc Posted April 7, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 7, 2016 No No.6 ! I do hope you don't remember those..... P My dear old Mum smoked those - without filter tips - after Player's Weights went off the market. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mallard60022 Posted April 7, 2016 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted April 7, 2016 Yup ........................... Good sorted. he says as he trembles in the kitchen before going back up just to make sure!! Thanks mate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium dhjgreen Posted April 7, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 7, 2016 Is this me? P Yay, that's you. How do you like your new name Peregrine. Or can we call you Perry? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Captain Kernow Posted April 7, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 7, 2016 Is this me? P I can see that there's no 'L' or 'R', but tell me, is this in any way connected with this 'LNER' thingy that we seem to hear so much about? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mallard60022 Posted April 7, 2016 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted April 7, 2016 (edited) Yay, that's you. How do you like your new name Peregrine. Or can we call you Perry? Wasn't Perry that strange young fellow in that programme where the youth hated his parents....what was the bloke called that did that....you know, you don't want to do it like that, you want to do it like this.....? If so, no thanks, I'd rather be Cider. Philth. (P.S. the M7 still works and it shunts my really crapppy Triang/Hornby and Lima coaches back over without them falling off and that is really good news as it will be doing a move like that every so often on the 'real thing'. However it should have a PP Set ande some decent coaches to play with by then). Edited April 7, 2016 by Mallard60022 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mallard60022 Posted April 7, 2016 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted April 7, 2016 Good sorted. You did that without leaving your house as well..................... I'd patent those powers as soon as possible C. Thanks. P Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium dhjgreen Posted April 7, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 7, 2016 Wasn't Perry that strange young fellow in that programme where the youth hated his parents....what was the bloke called that did that....you know, you don't want to do it like that, you want to do it like this.....? If so, no thanks, I'd rather be Cider. Philth. I never liked Harry Enfield either, so Cider it is then. Had to Google it, never saw it; you know the form "don't like it", ever tried it "no, but I don't like it" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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