RMweb Premium Mallard60022 Posted March 28, 2016 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted March 28, 2016 Phil, the ADS-8fx needs a momentary input not a continuous one to change the points. You can use ordinary push buttons if you don't want to work the points by DCC. I'm going to use DCC for mine so that I can do the storage loop route setting with NCE Mini Panels and macros. Note that although it can change 16 points it only has 8 outputs - each output can power 2 points. So you can use one output to work both ends of a crossover but the two points on an output can't operate independently. That's really helpful St E. In the booklet I have it reads as if the power 'supply' needs to be DCC or 15V DC but didn't say it was a 'momentary requirement' from a switch. I thought it just had the 'power in' and that was it. Hey ho. So I will use it with DCC then and rethink my operation strategy and perhaps do my cross overs with it? ATB Phil Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium St Enodoc Posted March 28, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 28, 2016 That's really helpful St E. In the booklet I have it reads as if the power 'supply' needs to be DCC or 15V DC but didn't say it was a 'momentary requirement' from a switch. I thought it just had the 'power in' and that was it. Hey ho. So I will use it with DCC then and rethink my operation strategy and perhaps do my cross overs with it? ATB Phil Phil - On one side of teh decoder there are 9 terminals and on the other 11. Looking at the 11 terminal side, connect the power supply to the terminals marked "DC or DCC" , either 15V dc or from your DCC booster - it doesn't matter which. The next three three terminals are marked "Solenoid". Connect your point motor to these with the common wire in the middle. The next three terminals are marked "Momentary". If you connect the middle of these momentarily to either of the other two it will move the motor. The final three terminals are marked "Frog Power". Connect the middle one to the frog and the others to the two stock rails. The side with 9 terminals is the same except it does not need the power supply as it is connected internally (in fact for the ADS-8fx you only need one power connection to drive all 8 individual decoders). Hope this makes sense. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mallard60022 Posted March 28, 2016 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted March 28, 2016 M Phil - On one side of teh decoder there are 9 terminals and on the other 11. Looking at the 11 terminal side, connect the power supply to the terminals marked "DC or DCC" , either 15V dc or from your DCC booster - it doesn't matter which. The next three three terminals are marked "Solenoid". Connect your point motor to these with the common wire in the middle. The next three terminals are marked "Momentary". If you connect the middle of these momentarily to either of the other two it will move the motor. The final three terminals are marked "Frog Power". Connect the middle one to the frog and the others to the two stock rails. The side with 9 terminals is the same except it does not need the power supply as it is connected internally (in fact for the ADS-8fx you only need one power connection to drive all 8 individual decoders). Hope this makes sense. Most useful. I shall investigate that when it arrives. Glad I didn't pay full whack for it though as it isn't quite what I imagined/understood. Phil Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Stubby47 Posted March 28, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 28, 2016 This is getting far too serious.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mallard60022 Posted March 28, 2016 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted March 28, 2016 This is getting far too serious.... Yes, I must have had some sort of infection.................I shall call 111. Phil Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted March 28, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 28, 2016 Hey Guys and Girls Have you been looking at the peccaboo bullied track thread...............they seem to be blaming Peco for "Summer Time" and messing up Mr Wynne's puter :swoon: Hold up I think I have read it wrong again.....it now seems Microsoft and Peco are in league to ruin our lives by being useless but we still love love cos we still buy them. I bit surprised that Tesco are not being blamed for the closure of our local shops by offering goodies cheaper and more of them.....darn cheek cheaper and more of them Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianusa Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 A treat to see green coaches after what seems a preponderance of chocolate and cream. Like the scenery!! Brian. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted March 28, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 28, 2016 Hey Guys and Girls Have you been looking at the peccaboo bullied track thread...............they seem to be blaming Peco for "Summer Time" and messing up Mr Wynne's puter :swoon: Hold up I think I have read it wrong again.....it now seems Microsoft and Peco are in league to ruin our lives by being useless but we still love love cos we still buy them. I bit surprised that Tesco are not being blamed for the closure of our local shops by offering goodies cheaper and more of them.....darn cheek cheaper and more of them Don't worry, and definitely don't panic as all is now back to normal for that thread with an 'earnest debate' about scale and gauge differences and the difference between HO and OO (simple one that, knock off an H and add an O) 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waraqah Posted March 29, 2016 Share Posted March 29, 2016 Don't worry, and definitely don't panic as all is now back to normal for that thread with an 'earnest debate' about scale and gauge differences and the difference between HO and OO (simple one that, knock off an H and add an O) Ooh! (Oops, sorry; got my O's and my H's back to front there! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mallard60022 Posted March 30, 2016 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted March 30, 2016 Work resumed today on SOSJ. I am working on one of the 'ends' where a Hex Frog Juicer and several Micro switches need to be installed and a load of extra droppers need to be soldered now that the track for the junction in this area is more or less 'planted' where it should be. Slow but theraputic is how I would describe this. I think I might well then apply some DCC power to this area and see what happens before proceeding to the (almost) same junction layout at the opposite end. That could be fun, or not depending on if blue smoke appears and loco's melt. More later. Phil 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Joseph_Pestell Posted March 30, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 30, 2016 M Hey Guys and Girls Have you been looking at the peccaboo bullied track thread...............they seem to be blaming Peco for "Summer Time" and messing up Mr Wynne's puter :swoon: Hold up I think I have read it wrong again.....it now seems Microsoft and Peco are in league to ruin our lives by being useless but we still love love cos we still buy them. I bit surprised that Tesco are not being blamed for the closure of our local shops by offering goodies cheaper and more of them.....darn cheek cheaper and more of them My father's cousin who ran a corner shop was blaming Tesco for their difficulties 50 years ago. She was very critical of anyone who shopped at Tesco - until she retired and...... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgman Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 (edited) Work resumed today on SOSJ. I am working on one of the 'ends' where a Hex Frog Juicer and several Micro switches need to be installed and a load of extra droppers need to be soldered now that the track for the junction in this area is more or less 'planted' where it should be. Slow but theraputic is how I would describe this. I think I might well then apply some DCC power to this area and see what happens before proceeding to the (almost) same junction layout at the opposite end. That could be fun, or not depending on if blue smoke appears and loco's melt. More later. Phil Ready and waiting ! And back-up is on its way just make sure you've got some feed when they get there ! hope there's not too many sparks mate Edited March 30, 2016 by bgman 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mallard60022 Posted March 30, 2016 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted March 30, 2016 More later.......pah! I have been given clarification about the micro switch wiring; most helpful. I didn't know I didn't know so much (to misquote some American bloke). No blue smoke so far.................. P 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium dhjgreen Posted March 30, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 30, 2016 More later.......pah! I have been given clarification about the micro switch wiring; most helpful. I didn't know I didn't know so much (to misquote some American bloke). No blue smoke so far.................. P Just gave you baby steps on the other thread, sorry. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mallard60022 Posted March 30, 2016 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted March 30, 2016 (edited) Just gave you baby steps on the other thread, sorry. No way matey, it was most helpful as I'd already made a mistake before asking! As long as I don't get the naughty step I don't care. Phil Edited March 30, 2016 by Mallard60022 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium dhjgreen Posted March 30, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 30, 2016 Peco thread shaping up for another fight Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium dhjgreen Posted March 30, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 30, 2016 Looks like a job for you Phil? http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/109709-armchair-critics-opportunity/?p=2256093 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mallard60022 Posted March 30, 2016 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted March 30, 2016 Posted here in case I forget what to do........many thanks to cpman 46 Ummmmm, wires.......... Phil 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mallard60022 Posted March 30, 2016 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted March 30, 2016 Looks like a job for you Phil? http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/109709-armchair-critics-opportunity/?p=2256093 I can't even remember which box the Grange came in so that's me done for. Phil Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waraqah Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 Ready and waiting ! image.jpeg And back-up is on its way just make sure you've got some feed when they get there ! image.jpeg hope there's not too many sparks mate Pugh, Pugh, Barney McGrew, Cuthbert, Dibble and Grubb. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgman Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 I can't even remember which box the Grange came in so that's me done for. Phil You're not looking hard enough mate, I think it's in here ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mallard60022 Posted March 30, 2016 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted March 30, 2016 My Cobalt ADS-8fx thingy arrived this afternoon. Very impressive looking bit of kit. Further Push buttons now ordered (I actually had some already....don't know why) It comes with a very comprehensive set of instructions and diagrams; probably the best I've received regarding trickery equipment. Now, I know I could have made one of these out of old tea bags, some rubber and some melted sand, but I CBA and I think it makes it look like I'm understanding what I'm doing with DCC. I never thought I might actually be contemplating using the Decoder facility for route setting (later). Last bit of work I did before I gave up was to complete the track from the west 'end' down to the Station Yard west trailing crossing. (The point motors still work.....). I added some droppers as well. Tomorrow I must get some track BUS laid and connected. That's it for now and thanks for the help and advice, especially the box where the Grange tender was hidden. Ar$e Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgman Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 (edited) Nice to see you're using the Cobalt thingy's, I've used them very successfully, but, initially I didn't set them correctly and had ALL of my turnout motors self centring on initial start up ! ( I should have set them to music !!! ) If you've used them before then disregard the following, however if not I'd suggest you set each one in turn to address 198. That will turn the factory default off, then you can give each one its own unique address without them self centring each time you turn the power on. It that typical bloke thing, read instructions after Enjoy G Edited March 30, 2016 by bgman Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium St Enodoc Posted March 30, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 30, 2016 (edited) Nice to see you're using the Cobalt thingy's, I've used them very successfully, but, initially I didn't set them correctly and had ALL of my turnout motors self centring on initial start up ! ( I should have set them to music !!! ) If you've used them before then disregard the following, however if not I'd suggest you set each one in turn to address 198. That will turn the factory default off, then you can give each one its own unique address without them self centring each time you turn the power on. It that typical bloke thing, read instructions after Enjoy G Grahame, I think (he will correct me if I'm wrong) that the Duck has the ADS (solenoid) decoder not the AD (slow action) one - as we discussed on the MCL topic a couple of months ago. Edited to spell bgman's name correctly - sorry! Edited March 30, 2016 by St Enodoc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold unravelled Posted March 30, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 30, 2016 You're not looking hard enough mate, I think it's in here ? image.jpeg Very off topic, but is that the case for a bomb sight computer? It's very like one I have. Unfortunately the bomb sight itself was dismantled for parts many years ago. Dave Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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