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Rugd1022 Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 Photo by Pete 'Loosegrip99' on Flickr : all the ones at Tyseley on 4th May 1969... 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugd1022 Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 Photo by Alistair Fyffe : 'IKB' on 20th May 1989... 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halvarras Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 2 hours ago, Rugd1022 said: Photo by Alistair Fyffe : 'IKB' on 20th May 1989... Strange coincidence - around the time you posted this I was wondering what the situation is now with this loco, and whether it has a future (intact I mean, as opposed to a contribution to the razor blade industry 🙄.....) 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugd1022 Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 2 minutes ago, Halvarras said: Strange coincidence - around the time you posted this I was wondering what the situation is now with this loco, and whether it has a future (intact I mean, as opposed to a contribution to the razor blade industry 🙄.....) I was thinking the same thing when I posted it! The owner is a mate of my brother's apparently, I'd love to know what's going to happen to it. Meanwhile, here's fellow WR namer 47 079 'G.J.Churchward' at Swindon back in 1984... 14 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Kazmierczak Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 In their best livery, in my opinion. Yesterday afternoon at Poole. Useful if you don't have many Mk3 coaches in your collection... 8 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halvarras Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 6 minutes ago, Rugd1022 said: I was thinking the same thing when I posted it! The owner is a mate of my brother's apparently, I'd love to know what's going to happen to it. Meanwhile, here's fellow WR namer 47 079 'G.J.Churchward' at Swindon back in 1984... Ah well, one day we'll find out, hopefully it'll be good news not bad, but it has been outside for many years which is concerning. The lighting in this pic clearly shows where the original longer nameplate was fitted. I was away from WR territory during most of its time in blue with the shortened name and don't recall seeing it like this. In 1984 47079 was about to go through two transformations in quick succession as it became one of the GWR150 lined green quartet in 1985 then in 1987 was the first '47' to receive the new Railfreight triple-grey sector colours, nameless of course and a bit of a blow TBH - I remember thinking at the time, "Why that one?!" Somewhere I have a photo of it like this, not long after painting and parked, oddly enough, on Swindon stabling point (actually it wasn't that odd because I'd moved there around about the time you took this pic which looks like summer....🙂!?) 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugd1022 Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 3 minutes ago, Halvarras said: Ah well, one day we'll find out, hopefully it'll be good news not bad, but it has been outside for many years which is concerning. The lighting in this pic clearly shows where the original longer nameplate was fitted. I was away from WR territory during most of its time in blue with the shortened name and don't recall seeing it like this. In 1984 47079 was about to go through two transformations in quick succession as it became one of the GWR150 lined green quartet in 1985 then in 1987 was the first '47' to receive the new Railfreight triple-grey sector colours, nameless of course and a bit of a blow TBH - I remember thinking at the time, "Why that one?!" Somewhere I have a photo of it like this, not long after painting and parked, oddly enough, on Swindon stabling point (actually it wasn't that odd because I'd moved there around about the time you took this pic which looks like summer....🙂!?) I forgot to add, it's not mine, I think it's a Martin Loader pic! 😉 '079's original full length plates were removed in the Factory at Old Oak and the new shorter ones in the then corporate style were fitted in March '79. One of the full length plates is in the collection at the NRM. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Kazmierczak Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 The 1979 shorter nameplates for GJC, were still in the same style as on the Westerns. There's a photo on my Flickr site... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halvarras Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 17 minutes ago, Rugd1022 said: I forgot to add, it's not mine, I think it's a Martin Loader pic! 😉 '079's original full length plates were removed in the Factory at Old Oak and the new shorter ones in the then corporate style were fitted in March '79. One of the full length plates is in the collection at the NRM. So these weren't cut-down versions of the original plates then, I've often wondered (why? - all I had to do was ask on here 😉!) Did this happen due to sideswipe damage to one of the plates? Also, as @Peter Kazmierczak has just pointed out, these were not in the then new corporate style (only 47089 'Amazon' received such replacements, which sadly didn't last long), but they may have been one-piece castings - it has been a few years since I last saw it but the 'North Star' plate hanging on the wall in Swindon's STEAM museum appeared to be such a single casting - so definitely not original. As Peter also says, the plates for D1660-4 were assembled in the same manner as the Westerns - apologies if I've mentioned this previously (I'm sure I have!) but the only two letters not used on Western plates were 'J' and 'Z', meaning that D1664/47079 had the only 'Js' in the 79 names. File under 'Western Trivia'! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugd1022 Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 13 minutes ago, Halvarras said: So these weren't cut-down versions of the original plates then, I've often wondered (why? - all I had to do was ask on here 😉!) Did this happen due to sideswipe damage to one of the plates? Also, as @Peter Kazmierczak has just pointed out, these were not in the then new corporate style (only 47089 'Amazon' received such replacements, which sadly didn't last long), but they may have been one-piece castings - it has been a few years since I last saw it but the 'North Star' plate hanging on the wall in Swindon's STEAM museum appeared to be such a single casting - so definitely not original. As Peter also says, the plates for D1660-4 were assembled in the same manner as the Westerns - apologies if I've mentioned this previously (I'm sure I have!) but the only two letters not used on Western plates were 'J' and 'Z', meaning that D1664/47079 had the only 'Js' in the 79 names. File under 'Western Trivia'! Sorry, yes you're right, the shortened plates on '079 were the same style as the originals, I was getting mixed up with '089. The 'North Star' plate at Swindon back in 2010 does appear to be a one piece casting, although it's possible the joins in the outer beading have been filled and polished... 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium brushman47544 Posted July 16 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 16 On 15/07/2024 at 19:50, Rugd1022 said: Photo by Pete 'Loosegrip99' on Flickr : all the ones at Tyseley on 4th May 1969... Wasn’t 1O42 the York - Poole that ran via the GCR before that route closed and was regularly a (Darnell?) Class 37? 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halvarras Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 5 hours ago, brushman47544 said: Wasn’t 1O42 the York - Poole that ran via the GCR before that route closed and was regularly a (Darnell?) Class 37? This was the headcode carried by an immaculate D1106 at Reading one month earlier (5/4/69) - my photo is somewhere earlier in this thread. As a Cornish-based spotter still with loads of WR 47s to capture this was a cop of monstrous proportions! (To put this into perspective, D1889 turned up shortly after and this was only my second D18xx Brush.) A visit to Kings Cross in late July 1970 finally nailed 'all the ones', and 1500 as well which appeared to be the only 'Generator' still in green livery, and I didn't mind that at all! 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugd1022 Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 Talking of the 'Gens', here's D1501 at KX in the early days, an ebay find, original photographer unknown... 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugd1022 Posted July 24 Share Posted July 24 Photo by Kevin Lane : on the blocks at Padd, 27th July 1972... 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugd1022 Posted July 25 Share Posted July 25 Photo by John Goodale : now preserved at the Glos & Warks Railway, 47 105 at Cardiff Canton on 17th December 1982... Photo by Chris Thorpe... Photo by Kevin Daniel : 47 491 at Reading on 6th November 1981... 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 65179 Posted July 26 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 26 A while back elsewhere on here we had a few of the diesel drags that were necessary on the Kings Cross-Bradford FS services after Class 91 introduction, but prior to electrification reaching Bradford: As a result I thought I'd fish out a few of my meagre efforts photographing these trains at Leeds in 1991. 47418 on 11/01/1991: 47413 on 19/01/1991: 47417 on 19/01/1991: And the same weekend the last Loco-hauled Trans-Pennine service, scratch set and all, waiting to leave Newcastle on 20/1/1991. Simon 11 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 65179 Posted July 26 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 26 (edited) A couple more with 47549 Royal Mail and 47517 Andrew Carnegie on 6/4/1991: 47549 wasn't part of the IM pool for these services at the time but all the others, together with 47402, were. Simon Edited July 26 by 65179 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halvarras Posted July 26 Share Posted July 26 2 hours ago, 65179 said: A while back elsewhere on here we had a few of the diesel drags that were necessary on the Kings Cross-Bradford FS services after Class 91 introduction, but prior to electrification reaching Bradford: As a result I thought I'd fish out a few of my meagre efforts photographing these trains at Leeds in 1991. 47418 on 11/01/1991: 47413 on 19/01/1991: 47417 on 19/01/1991: And the same weekend the last Loco-hauled Trans-Pennine service, scratch set and all, waiting to leave Newcastle on 20/1/1991. Simon "Meagre efforts"? You must have posted the wrong set of photos Simon, these are great 👍! 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugd1022 Posted July 28 Share Posted July 28 Photo by Eric Harrison : D1591 at York TMD on 3rd March 1967, around this time The Beatles were busy recording their 'Sgt.Pepper' album at EMI studios in Abbey Road, The Rolling Stones were battling the press after a drugs raid at Keith Richards' country pile the previous month and Jimi Hendrix was on a UK tour, Engleburt Humperdink was enjoying his first number one hit single and The Walker Brothers were on the verge of splitting up, but life on the railway went on as usual... 12 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugd1022 Posted July 29 Share Posted July 29 Photo by Chris Baines : D1500 at Stratford Works... Photo by 'Peter-1950' on flickr : D1500 on test at Bristol TM, 18th of February 1963... Photo by Corin Paul : D1500 at Kings X in October 1969... 11 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium keefer Posted July 29 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 29 Very interesting pics Nidge. I thought D1500 was the first of the 'Generator' cl.47s, so should have ETH gear on the bufferbeam? Also, I wonder what 'MT' means on the first pic? Has it (twice) on the front end but also on the side corner - does it just mean 'empty' as in fuel/water etc before going into Works? Great stuff anyway, always look forward to your pics @Rugd1022, especially the Transition period-late '70s 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray M Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 A long lost 1, found in an old book 1922 at Paddington 30-6-73 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
45125 Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 12 hours ago, keefer said: Very interesting pics Nidge. I thought D1500 was the first of the 'Generator' cl.47s, so should have ETH gear on the bufferbeam? Also, I wonder what 'MT' means on the first pic? Has it (twice) on the front end but also on the side corner - does it just mean 'empty' as in fuel/water etc before going into Works? Great stuff anyway, always look forward to your pics @Rugd1022, especially the Transition period-late '70s MT does usually mean devoid of liquids. RE the ETH, I have seen a photo before with all the relevant junction boxes, but no cables at either end. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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