Dick Turpin Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 Two rail, third rail, OHLE, rule 1 says that it matters not how it gives you a buzzzz Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
2750Papyrus Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 Sorry, but I thought this Ivatt replica was a kettle? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
34theletterbetweenB&D Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 ...One thing the line never had was 3rd rail. And I do love the sounds of EMUs.... I know. That's why along with the full route reinstatement you were awarded the bimodal fuel cell/electric Class 666 'Rule breaker' units to enable through operation over the 'preserved' section of the route, operating the future national network services. In the future, everything is possible. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenGiraffe22 Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 Sorry, but I thought this Ivatt replica was a kettle? No need to be sorry, while extremely similar in design, The Bluebell's is a LBSCR Atlantic designed by Marsh, not a GNR Atlantic designed by Ivatt =) but indeed, a 'kettle' as you say. =) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gr.king Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 But all of the LBSCR Marsh Atlantics simply were Ivatt's design with details adjusted to suit the situation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Decorum Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 But all of the LBSCR Marsh Atlantics simply were Ivatt's design with details adjusted to suit the situation. Yes, identical bent con rods for a start. What was Ivatt thinking? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Andy Hayter Posted September 13, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 13, 2018 Yes, identical bent con rods for a start. What was Ivatt thinking? Running through the Peterborough dog leg at full tilt?? Hat coat, gone Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
County of Yorkshire Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 Hmmm. CoY Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted September 13, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 13, 2018 Hmmm. CoY Tempting, and PayPal only, so some protection. But a UK buyer may get stung for importing, so the bargain reduces. Caveat emptor, as ever. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pre Grouping fan Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 Looks suspect to me. How can someone in taiwan already have them when they arent released yet? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Graham_Muz Posted September 13, 2018 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted September 13, 2018 A quandary how and why she got there but she looks pretty at Canute Road Quay full review in this months (October) issue of BRM our today or on my blog here as a reminder https://grahammuz.com/2018/09/07/the-Bachmann-ex-lbscr-h2-class-brighton-atlantic-4-4-2-grace-and-presence-in-one-locomotive/ 12 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Claude_Dreyfus Posted September 13, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 13, 2018 (edited) Very pretty indeed... Looks suspect to me. How can someone in taiwan already have them when they arent released yet? If a dealer in Taiwan ordered a batch, would they not be delivered directly from the factory, or would they have to come via Barwell initially? If they went directly to the dealer from the factory then I'm not surprised they are available. Edited September 13, 2018 by Claude_Dreyfus Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidH Posted September 14, 2018 Share Posted September 14, 2018 It's gone, but eBay tells me I can get something similar. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Hornby-dublo-2-rail-/123312967803?oid=263934174247 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIK Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 Hi, The Hornby magazine review says it has a 5 pole skew wound motor. Is this the first five pole motor in a released Bachmann OO British loco/multiple unit?. Looking at the photos of the motor in Hornby magazine and the Modeller I can't see a lot of skew but it is a small motor (semi open frame). Apart from being tempted by this loco I thought I would never see in RTR I'm interested in the motor in spares form as a donor for kit built multiple units. Regards Nick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
34theletterbetweenB&D Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 The Hornby magazine review says it has a 5 pole skew wound motor. Is this the first five pole motor in a released Bachmann OO British loco/multiple unit?... It wouldn't be, because their Blue Riband range started out with five pole motors as standard in both steam and diesel. The D+E retains the five pole motor (TTBOMK, anyone know of exceptions?) but the steam models went over to three pole units pretty early. Very efficient three pole units it should be said, and that's certainly the case on the Ivatt atlantic which shares a mechanism layout with the LBSC atlantics. (I suspect an inability to count of the author, but am prepared to be pleasantly surprised if erring in this matter.) Just to demonstrate that they know critical customers like better motors, Bach's OO/HO 'Thomas' that I opened up had a skew wound five pole job in it. I assume the better motor spec was in recogintion of the need to get those eyes moving really smoothly... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIK Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 It wouldn't be, because their Blue Riband range started out with five pole motors as standard in both steam and diesel. The D+E retains the five pole motor (TTBOMK, anyone know of exceptions?) but the steam models went over to three pole units pretty early. Very efficient three pole units it should be said, and that's certainly the case on the Ivatt atlantic which shares a mechanism layout with the LBSC atlantics. (I suspect an inability to count of the author, but am prepared to be pleasantly surprised if erring in this matter.) Just to demonstrate that they know critical customers like better motors, Bach's OO/HO 'Thomas' that I opened up had a skew wound five pole job in it. I assume the better motor spec was in recogintion of the need to get those eyes moving really smoothly... Hi, I assumed all D+E from the Class 25/24 onwards had the three pole motor and that the steam outline OO had the same (apart from those models with coreless motors). I've since read that the MRM Ivatt C2 Atlantic was to have a 5 pole motor. Maybe I will see what the price is of a Thomas motor to get one for evaluation. Regards Nick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack P Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 Tempting, and PayPal only, so some protection. But a UK buyer may get stung for importing, so the bargain reduces. Caveat emptor, as ever. I bought it, I'll let you know how I get on, as you say though, paypal offers buyer protection, which was really the main reason I hit buy now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
34theletterbetweenB&D Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 ...I've since read that the NRM Ivatt C1 Atlantic was to have a 5 pole motor. Maybe I will see what the price is of a Thomas motor to get one for evaluation. The NRM C1 that I own is very definitely equipped with a 3 pole iron core motor in the standardised style of Bachmann's steam model motors, that I first saw in their BR Std4 2-6-4T and std5 4-6-0, and all of their steam model introductions that I happen to have looked at since (which is by no means all of them!). No doubts at all about this as the motor can has cutouts in the flat sides, and a paint stripe on one pole making the counting of poles very simple. This of course is not the LBSC model, so this is not binding on that model. But I feel it is very unlikely that Bachmann will have deviated from their consistent practise of about sixteen years. I wouldn't bother with the 'Thomas' motor on the basis of the single specimen I have seen. It was low on torque and outperformed by Bach's regular 3 pole unit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robmcg Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 I bought it, I'll let you know how I get on, as you say though, paypal offers buyer protection, which was really the main reason I hit buy now. I was thinking of buying it, hesitated, and you won! I suspect it will be fine, and a good price too! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickham Green Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 Sorry, but I thought this Ivatt replica was a kettle? Electric kettle p'raps ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Derails Models Posted September 19, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 19, 2018 (edited) Although we're closed, I popped into the shop to collect some paperwork today, and found a new desk ornament... 31-921 by Derails Models, on Flickr Sorry for the awful photo quality. Edited September 19, 2018 by Derails Models 16 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenGiraffe22 Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 (edited) Have they finaly started arriving? or is it another review sample? Edited September 19, 2018 by GreenGiraffe22 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Derails Models Posted September 19, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 19, 2018 Have they finaly started arriving? or is it another review sample? Arriving. That's one of our stock models 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Tim Hall Posted September 20, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 20, 2018 Arriving. That's one of our stock models Permission to drool, please? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenGiraffe22 Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 Arriving. That's one of our stock models Oh hell yes! =D 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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