Judge Dread Posted February 9, 2014 Share Posted February 9, 2014 What news, what can I say? I'm not one to be lost for words, but this time wishing you a speedy recovery Colin doesn't seem to be enough. I for one will be thinking of you! Please keep us all informed of your progress. Many regards, John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
emt_911 Posted February 9, 2014 Share Posted February 9, 2014 Colin Not the news needed by anyone. If the amount of support here is anything to go by, you should have your wish to beat it by the end of the year. Duncan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRman Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 Echoing the sentiments of everyone before me, please get well quickly and as painlessly as possible, Colin. Your contributions here will be sorely missed but if you can keep us posted on your progress, please do so. Sincere regards, Jeff. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Gwinnett Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 Chin up, best wishes for a speedy recovery. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
5Bel Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 Hi Colin, Sorry to hear your news. Good luck and hope to see you back modelling again soon. Ian. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Y Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 So sorry to hear that news Colin; my thoughts and best wishes are with you. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Londontram Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 All the best Colin Were all thinking of you. Regards Steve 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 Colin I wish you all of the above may you soon be on the mend. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Miller Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 I am so sorry to hear that news, Colin, and I hope the recovery is sooner rather than later. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin parks Posted February 10, 2014 Author Share Posted February 10, 2014 Many thanks to you all once more. There are many out there facing worse problems than mine. All the best and good night. Colin Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xerces Fobe2 Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 All the best to you Colin for a speedy recovery and then back to the EMU building again! Nigel Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeTrice Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 Thought I would drop by and catch up on what you have been up to expecting it just to relate to modelling activities, so sorry to hear your non modelling related news and wish you a successful and speedy recovery. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dasatcopthorne Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 Only just spotted this. Bloody hell mate! Take it easy and you'll get through it. All the best and keep us updated Colin. All the very best Dave Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRAILRAGE Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 What to say other than best wishes to you Colin and take care Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazza. Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 No updates on the 4 SUB of late. I ham no longer able to continue modelling (or anything else for that matter) due having just being diagnosed with multiple myeloma. This has put everything on hold for the present and all future commitments such as the model show in August, which NHH was booked to be at, are cancelled. I shall be keeping up with you all on RMweb though. All the best, Colin Hi Colin, Just found out. Sorry to hear your news. My thoughts are with you and your family. I wish you speedy recovery. Regards Bazza Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dibateg Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 Very sorry to hear this news Colin, my best wishes for your recovery, I enjoy seeing your work. My Regards Tony Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
roythebus Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 I've just found this thread, sorry to hear of Colin's problems, wishing some sort of recovery. If I can comment on the suggestion that 4SUBs had heater fuses taken out, they may well have been in summer; it certainly wasn't the practice for the SW units; I drove them for about 4 years at Waterloo. The units could work to Eastleigh and beyond with the recommendation that the lights be turned off because of the 750/850 volts. On the central, pre-upping the voltage whenever that was, there was no reason why SUBS could not work anywhere there was a third rail. 2BILs etc used to work to Newhaven. The older stock had lights that were wired in series, so if they used 75volt bulbs, 10 in series would equal 750 volts, simples, giving a bit of a safety margin! It may be they used 110v bulbs, again 6 in series etc...The control circuits were all 650 volts too but were a bit more robust and less prone to blowing like a light bulb. It's a long time since I learnt the SUBs so can't remember the exact details. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin parks Posted February 18, 2014 Author Share Posted February 18, 2014 I've just found this thread, sorry to hear of Colin's problems, wishing some sort of recovery. If I can comment on the suggestion that 4SUBs had heater fuses taken out, they may well have been in summer; it certainly wasn't the practice for the SW units; I drove them for about 4 years at Waterloo. The units could work to Eastleigh and beyond with the recommendation that the lights be turned off because of the 750/850 volts. On the central, pre-upping the voltage whenever that was, there was no reason why SUBS could not work anywhere there was a third rail. 2BILs etc used to work to Newhaven. The older stock had lights that were wired in series, so if they used 75volt bulbs, 10 in series would equal 750 volts, simples, giving a bit of a safety margin! It may be they used 110v bulbs, again 6 in series etc...The control circuits were all 650 volts too but were a bit more robust and less prone to blowing like a light bulb. It's a long time since I learnt the SUBs so can't remember the exact details. Hi Roy, It's great to hear a first-hand account of 4 SUB workings. Re. heaters, I have read that they were disconnected when running on higher voltage lines, but will check as to why. Just about any EMU pre- 1951 stock could have run to Newhaven before the raising of the voltage. I had assumed that the changeover came when the last 4 CORs were withdrawn in 1972. With the lighting wired as you say, it required a fitter to change a light bulb due to the voltage. I should think that anyone who stole train light bulbs to use at home must have had some very spectacular results when they switched the light on! All the best, Colin 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin parks Posted February 18, 2014 Author Share Posted February 18, 2014 Once again, many thanks for all your messages of support. I am feeling a lot better with pain relief now under control. It has been a rotten few weeks for my family, but I am now on the mend according to the specialist. If luck it can be called, I happen to have a type of cancer which can sometimes be cured with a bone marrow transplant, or failing that, at least controlled. You never know, I might even get the last of the handles on the SUB's van doors and change those incorrectly placed 'Guard' transfers one of these days! Colin Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted February 18, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 18, 2014 The remarkable diligence and infinite patience we see in your modelling reflects the way you are, Colin, doesn't it? Here you are with some very nasty things happening to you, and yet managing to sound as balanced as ever. Most of us would be having the screaming hab-dabs! Amazing fortitude, which I hope will be rewarded with a full recovery. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bustered Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 Colin, if you can display the tenacity and determination to create the masterpieces you have, out of bits of plastic, then this will be just a bump in the road. My mother in law has just got to the other end of treatment for the same condition and she can't build for toffee! Best wishes Nige 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Budgie Posted February 18, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 18, 2014 (edited) With the lighting wired as you say, it required a fitter to change a light bulb due to the voltage.It didn't require a fitter to remove them, as schoolchildren did regularly. Two bulbs out, one on each side, and the whole carriage went dark. I should think that anyone who stole train light bulbs to use at home must have had some very spectacular results when they switched the light on!As I remember them, the lights had 3 prongs sticking out of the side of the bulb 120 degrees apart, so they wouldn't fit into light fittings at home which only had two at 180 degrees (and still do to this day). Do not confuse these prongs with the electrical contacts on the top of the bulb. Incidentally, I am not admitting to anything. Edited February 18, 2014 by Budgie Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin parks Posted February 18, 2014 Author Share Posted February 18, 2014 (edited) The remarkable diligence and infinite patience we see in your modelling reflects the way you are, Colin, doesn't it? Here you are with some very nasty things happening to you, and yet managing to sound as balanced as ever. Most of us would be having the screaming hab-dabs! Amazing fortitude, which I hope will be rewarded with a full recovery. 'Balanced' Ian? Wasn't it me who said on the Hornby topic that DC motors would run in different directions if the models were turned around on the tracks: that 2 BILs had motor generators (I meant compressors!); that 5 BELs never ran to Newhaven and I'm sure there was something else I stated that was equally humiliating when it proved to be wrong No, start worrying when I say anything that is balanced! All the best, Colin Edited February 18, 2014 by Colin parks 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin parks Posted February 18, 2014 Author Share Posted February 18, 2014 It didn't require a fitter to remove them, as schoolchildren did regularly. Two bulbs out, one on each side, and the whole carriage went dark. As I remember them, the lights had 3 prongs sticking out of the side of the bulb 120 degrees apart, so they wouldn't fit into light fittings at home which only had two at 180 degrees (and still do to this day). Do not confuse these prongs with the electrical contacts on the top of the bulb. Incidentally, I am not admitting to anything. Hi Budgie, I hadn't considered the fittings being different, but is written in one book (probably by David Brown) that pilfering of light bulbs was a problem. It is certainly written in the 4 SUB story (p.11) that: 'Bulbs could only be replaced by a CM and EE fitter, as they worked at line voltage.' So your school chums (not you I'm sure!) broke the circuit by removing a bulb from each series run and then some qualified chap had to be summoned to sort it all out! Re. lighting it reminds of an anecdote related to me at the Derby show in 2012 by an ex-trainee driver on the Southern Region, whose jobs included moving empty stock. The story never made sense to me, as he described moving a unit, which I would love to be able to say was a 4 SUB, but I can't remember. Anyway, he said that he started off out of the sidings with the unit which was bound for a works overhaul when he smelt burning. It turned out that the roof conduits had caught fire. I presume that the old unit was running on lines of higher voltage than it was designed for and that the lighting circuits should have been isolated - he said something to that effect, but I was operating the layout at the time so didn't catch all the details. Smoke units on an EMU anyone?!! All the best, Colin 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pwr Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 Once again, many thanks for all your messages of support. I am feeling a lot better with pain relief now under control. It has been a rotten few weeks for my family, but I am now on the mend according to the specialist. If luck it can be called, I happen to have a type of cancer which can sometimes be cured with a bone marrow transplant, or failing that, at least controlled. You never know, I might even get the last of the handles on the SUB's van doors and change those incorrectly placed 'Guard' transfers one of these days! Colin R Really pleased to hear that you are feeling better Colin. Your frequent updates have been missed and I for one I am looking forward to seeing the Sub on Newhaven I am sure you still have a long way to go before you beat this but beat it you can and we are all rooting for you. My wife had breast cancer so I know it turns your life upside down. Please keep the updates coming Paul R 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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