Iron Horse Posted March 25, 2017 Share Posted March 25, 2017 On a trip to Oxford to try out my new Praktica camera (bought from Argos) in the early 80s, I was very surprised to see a pair of 20s (20013 & 20080) heading north on a train of empty cartics. They appeared whilst I was photographing 50013 on a Paddington train on the up platform so I hurried over to the down platform and got a couple of shots during the brief stop they made on the down through road. Although they weren't unknown at Oxford (they sometimes turned up on the morning Speedlink from Bescot), they were very unusual just up the road in my home town of Reading. Wow.....i was brought up in Oxford......never saw a pair of 20's...............thanks for sharing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
18B Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 The only Raifreight grey class 20 in BR days was 20088 20088.20194 Avenue Sidings (Clay Cross) October 1990 20088,20194 xx1090 CC.jpg They then moved on to the main line loop 20088.20194 Clay Cross October 1990 20088,20194 58034 CC xx1090 B.jpg And then moved to Toton 20088.20194 Toton October 1990 20088,20194 TO xx1090.jpg Great pics, any ideas though what the working was that brought the twenties onto the Avenue Coking plant line? they're running around their train which would suggest that this wasn't a train for Avenue but rather one using the facilities to run round? especially as it has a brake van and HEAs? Also note the twenties and the 58 on the Goods road and the 58 has drawn up behind the twenties!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheesysmith Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 Until the resignalling the good lines at clay cross were signalled as permissive block, allowing trains to draw upto another already in the block section as seen in the photo. This is one of the few times you would have more than one train in a block section at a time. I think that permissive block has now been made extinct on the main line. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DerekEm8 Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 Until the resignalling the good lines at clay cross were signalled as permissive block, allowing trains to draw upto another already in the block section as seen in the photo. This is one of the few times you would have more than one train in a block section at a time. I think that permissive block has now been made extinct on the main line. The goods line was busy that day 37203,47348,20088/20194.58034 all waiting October 1990 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 20180 / 20055 Olive Mount Jct, 17 October 1986, 9X39 Fazakerley - Bamber Bridge 20163 / 20007 Thorpes Bridge, waiting to enter Newton Heath, 19 February 1988 Tom 13 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold big jim Posted June 14, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 14, 2017 (edited) Until the resignalling the good lines at clay cross were signalled as permissive block, allowing trains to draw upto another already in the block section as seen in the photo. This is one of the few times you would have more than one train in a block section at a time. I think that permissive block has now been made extinct on the main line.The goods lines between Derby london road and LNWR junction (towards burton in Trent) are still permissive freight, surprised me a few months back when I got position lights to follow a freightliner stone train along there! EDIT: acton grange to walton old jn just outside Warrington bank quay is the same Edited June 14, 2017 by big jim Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taigatrommel Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 (edited) This lovely combo came through Cheltenham today, on its way from Bishops Lydeard to Butterley. D8188 and D8059, plus 50049 and 50007. Edited June 14, 2017 by Taigatrommel 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
billy_anorak59 Posted July 6, 2017 Share Posted July 6, 2017 (edited) Two photos I took at Warrington Arpley - circa.1986: 20077 20195 and 20143 Edited July 22, 2022 by billy_anorak59 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
anroar53 Posted July 7, 2017 Share Posted July 7, 2017 20189 gets a bit of TLC on the South Coast at St. Leonards (exact date unrecorded, possibly 2012) 20189 does a bit of shunting at St. Leonards after some light repairs. 20189 shunting Translator Vehicles. 20189 gets a test, hauling 2 x 66s, 2 x Translator Vehicles and a 73. Seen just after leaving St. Leonards. English Electric sounds were beautiful. 20189 and 20142 in short lived Balfour Beatty Livery. St. Leonards 09.10.14 Other side of 20142 and 20189. 09.10.14 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psiborg Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 20132 "Barrow Hill Depot" and 20118 "Saltburn-by-the-Sea" stabled at Derby on 13th September 2014 20142 "Sir John Betjeman" with 20227 at Swanwick at the Midland Railway Centre on 28th May 2017 Direct Rail Services 20302 and 20312 photographed at the Carlisle Kingmoor Depot charity open day on 22nd July 2017 HNRC locomotives 20314 and 20311 were stabled at Derby on the 2nd April 2017 20905 and 20901 at Derby on the 10th May 2015 Simon 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted September 21, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 21, 2017 In the same location as above. 20905 has lost 20901 as a partner. Replaced by 20107 Didn't see the raindrop on the camera until later..... Cheers, Midk 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
anroar53 Posted September 22, 2017 Share Posted September 22, 2017 20189 December 2013. Pink Undercoat before going into LT Red. 20901 St. Leonards 05.12.14 20901 St. Leonards 05.12.14 20901 the other end. 20901 St. Leonards 08.12.14 paired with 73107. 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boris Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 (edited) 20075 on its way to Pickering to be named 1994: Edit: Will look out correct pic tomorrow! Edited September 23, 2017 by Boris Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pagey Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 Lets go back a bit in time.... 20014 still in green livery and apparently lacking an emblem on this side anyway along with an unknown partner haul mineral wagons through Derby in the summer of 1975 20220 waits in the bay at Markinch with mineral wagons while 60009 simmers in front of the goods shed - May 1975... 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick G Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 20135 & 20080 wait to couple back up to their MGR train at Point of Ayr (N Wales coast), 25th July 1988. 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve1 Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 001 at Butterley a few years ago: steve 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dvdlcs Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 20135 & 20080 wait to couple back up to their MGR train at Point of Ayr (N Wales coast), 25th July 1988. Hello. Silly question perhaps, but what is the contraption to the left of the picture used for? Thanks in advance ... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve1 Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 Pretty sure they operate the hopper levers and the wheels are rubber guides. (I could be wrong of course) steve Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
South-East Rail Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 The London Underground S-Stock move at Gerrards Cross last night: Class 20s by Ed, on Flickr Ed 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
meanach Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 (edited) Hi , don’t know if anyone can help ? I’m after pics of 20127 during its time fitted with RETB aerial . Cheers, Ian Edited February 15, 2018 by meanach Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim.snowdon Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 Pretty sure they operate the hopper levers and the wheels are rubber guides. (I could be wrong of course) steve You could be wrong. As far as I am aware, MGR trains were always hauled through the loading and unloading points, however, what those devices are there to do is move trains of more conventional pre-MGR coal hoppers through unloading points. The rubber tired wheels were spring loaded so as to grip the wagon sides, and motorised in order to push/pull the rakes of wagons. The tell-tale was the very visible twin tyre tracks down the sides of the wagons. Jim Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold rodent279 Posted February 16, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 16, 2018 (edited) Three from Crewe Works c.1983 20017CreweWorksc.1983.jpg 20017 awaits the torch at Crewe Works c.1983 Cheers Steve And here is 20017 in Jan 1984, not looking any happier. https://flic.kr/p/Was4KY Edited February 16, 2018 by rodent279 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trev52A Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 Here are a couple of disc-fitted examples from 1967.. D8125 northbound at Low Fell on 9th June 1967 A line-up at Carlisle on 29th July 1967 includes D8122+D8113 on the left Trevor 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted February 16, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 16, 2018 (edited) You could be wrong. As far as I am aware, MGR trains were always hauled through the loading and unloading points, however, what those devices are there to do is move trains of more conventional pre-MGR coal hoppers through unloading points. The rubber tired wheels were spring loaded so as to grip the wagon sides, and motorised in order to push/pull the rakes of wagons. The tell-tale was the very visible twin tyre tracks down the sides of the wagons. Jim It is only MGR (HAA etc) wagons that have the marks. Edit - ta to w124 Bob below. Yes - it is for moving the wagons through a couple of places where they weren't powered by a loco. Avenue Coking plant was one such example. Cheers, Mick Edited February 18, 2018 by newbryford Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
w124bob Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 Wasn't just HAA's that got horizontal tyre weathering, just check HEA's , 21t HTO/V hoppers and 24.5t HUO hoppers all have some examples on Paul Barletts site http://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/brmineralhopper Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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