Miss Prism Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 Difficult to date it exactly, but the key to such pictures is usually the women's hat styles. I'm guessing c 1908. Paddington, platform 2. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Londontram Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 Sorry Miss P Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penlan Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 (edited) Can we put an approximate date to that wonderful shot Miss Prism? It is very late Victorian, early Edwardian, the men's (informal) suit jackets with their rounded edges down from the front to the back - reminisente of Formal wear, became very fashionable in the the late 1890's. The quality of the photograph suggest this time too. The GWR (?) coaches are in the pre. 1908 livery. The ladies attire, though somewhat stuffy, seems to accord with circa 1900. The alleged Miss Prism looks to be a Chaperone ? The gent's hats appear to be in the style of Fedora hats, but these did not become popular until the 1920's, though initially a Ladies hat from 1889. Both Gents hats are unusual for being, shall we say formal, yet informal without a contrasting (dark / coloured) ribbon around them for the time. However, a date - Circa 1902 from the Ladies fashions. All E.& O.E. Edited August 28, 2017 by Penlan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Prism Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 The coach is a long Churchward brake 3rd, and I'm fairly certain it isn't a Dreadnought, so my guess it's a 70' Concertina (can't make out the door hangings), so that makes it post-1906. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie Douglas Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 FWIW my only observation is that the men's trousers do not appear to have a crease, a fashion I believe only started to become popular sometime in the late 1890's but took some time to really catch on. Best wishes Jamie Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted August 29, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 29, 2017 They're travelling third. They may not be wearing new clothes in the latest fashion. So I'd say that the best one can deduce from the clothing is 'after such-and-such a date'. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wagonman Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 The coach is a long Churchward brake 3rd, and I'm fairly certain it isn't a Dreadnought, so my guess it's a 70' Concertina (can't make out the door hangings), so that makes it post-1906. Are the doors 'flat' or is there a hint of turn-under towards the bottom? Definitely Churchward style elliptical roof though... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Prism Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 Are the doors 'flat' or is there a hint of turn-under towards the bottom? The doors are flat. It's a Concertina D43. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penlan Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 I think we are agreed on circa 1908 now.... Those of us old enough to know, will know the older you get, you tend to add years to your age, so people say "my goodness you don't look old enough to be that age" .That's my apology for '.... circa 1902'.Meanwhile, have we resolved if that's Miss Prism's Great, Great, Aunt in the background 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Prism Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 Actually, it's my sister (she's much better looking than me). I was snapping with my new Box Brownie. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Prism Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 More hats, dining in style, presumably on route to Liverpool to catch an ocean liner. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Jol Wilkinson Posted October 16, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 16, 2017 More hats, dining in style, presumably on route to Liverpool to catch an ocean liner. lnwr-dining-saloon(small).jpg Miss P, super, especially in relation to the thread on LNWR uniforms. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Prism Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 One's butler was always smartly attired, Jol, even in his own pantry: 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Hroth Posted October 16, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 16, 2017 Thanks again to Mikkel for linking to the Modelu update. I am enchanted by this Rustic Mechanicals band, and could not resist re-posting the image here. Would they pass for Edwardians, do you think? They are making me think of Maypole dancing on Castle Aching's village green, accompanied by said rustics! Marvellous! With a bit of backdating for keyless clarinets, fiddles and a Serpent, as the instrumentalists for the Mellstock Quire they would be ideal for First Sod Cutting entertainment! The "Merchant Navy" figures are mostly good for your average 19C/20C industrial worker too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium wagonbasher Posted October 16, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 16, 2017 More hats, dining in style, presumably on route to Liverpool to catch an ocean liner. lnwr-dining-saloon(small).jpg A complaint about a dirty knife perhaps Andy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Edwardian Posted October 16, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 16, 2017 More hats, dining in style, presumably on route to Liverpool to catch an ocean liner. lnwr-dining-saloon(small).jpg "Carruthers, you're eying up that filly in pink again and not listening to a word I say! As I was just saying, according to the brochure it's the largest liner afloat and apparently unsinkable. Should be a fun trip". "Yes, Carstairs, but this time try not to spend the whole voyage re-arranging the deck chairs. Do you think she'd be up for a game of deck quoits?" "I say, waiter, can we have some ice please?" 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Jol Wilkinson Posted October 16, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 16, 2017 A complaint about a dirty knife perhaps Andy No if they are travelling from London, she is enquiring why Pie and Mash isn't on the menu. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Edwardian Posted October 16, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 16, 2017 No if they are travelling from London, she is enquiring why Pie and Mash isn't on the menu. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPVDdqh3-wQ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Hroth Posted October 16, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 16, 2017 "Carruthers, you're eying up that filly in pink again and not listening to a word I say! As I was just saying, according to the brochure it's the largest liner afloat and apparently unsinkable. Should be a fun trip". "Yes, Carstairs, but this time try not to spend the whole voyage re-arranging the deck chairs. Do you think she'd be up for a game of deck quoits?" "I say, waiter, can we have some ice please?" They're going to miss the boat then - it left from Southampton, called at Cherbourg, then Queenstown, then stopped for ice..... Unless they're on the LSWR! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Edwardian Posted October 16, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 16, 2017 They're going to miss the boat then - it left from Southampton, called at Cherbourg, then Queenstown, then stopped for ice..... Unless they're on the LSWR! Well, that's a relief. I didn't want to think of them engulphed by the tragedy of that dreadful James Cameron film. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Welchester Posted October 16, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 16, 2017 They're going to miss the boat then - it left from Southampton, called at Cherbourg, then Queenstown, then stopped for ice..... Unless they're on the LSWR! Kenneth More went by LNWR in A Night to Remember: http://www.criterionforum.org/caps/nightrememberblu00001.jpg https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-OZPEntiMgAI/T3fPO7RSofI/AAAAAAAAMMg/Z-dVDSDkMG4/s1600/Kenneth%2BMore__a_night_to_remember_blu-ray_x01_.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Prism Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 Anfield, 1913. Everyone is wearing a hat or a cap. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Edwardian Posted October 16, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 16, 2017 Kenneth More went by LNWR in A Night to Remember: http://www.criterionforum.org/caps/nightrememberblu00001.jpg https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-OZPEntiMgAI/T3fPO7RSofI/AAAAAAAAMMg/Z-dVDSDkMG4/s1600/Kenneth%2BMore__a_night_to_remember_blu-ray_x01_.jpg Evidently, having heard the Titanic was registered to Liverpool, he got on the wrong train. Great footage. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Regularity Posted October 16, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 16, 2017 Anfield, 1913. Everyone is wearing a hat or a cap. One of the forgotten aspects of the revolutionary impact of rock and roll in the 50s, was that people stopped wearing hats - apart from anything else, a hat would destroy a carefully coiffured quiff. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Regularity Posted October 16, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 16, 2017 No if they are travelling from London, she is enquiring why Pie and Mash isn't on the menu.“Liquor, sir?”“Not in public, waiter.” Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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