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Derwent - LMS in the Peak (never finished due to house move)


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Hello,

     

 

I seem to recall somewhere a solution was to hang the weight of the tender on the rear drawbar of the locomotive somehow.

Possibly by making the tender front and center axles floating maybye?

trustytrev. :)

 

Hi Trev, that's an idea that occurred to me too. The loco is in the works now, for refitting of pick-ups on the tender and the coupled wheels, so I will have a play with the drawbar fixing.

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Over a week since my last post, but I have been busy with things model railway related. I still have not got my 2P performing so it is back in the works, but will be a while before any more work is done on her. I turned my attention to the second of my 4Fs. This is an old Airfix/Mainline one as produced by Hornby. I converted it to engine drive a while ago for my last DC layout using a Comet chassis. It was fitted with a YouChoos sound decoder and renumbered to a Rowsley (Derwent in my world) number. It was given a Halford's matt black spray job and the smoke-box painted acrylic matt black, so giving it an ex-works look. It needs a shed plate and build plates.

 

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4429 is a standard LMS left-hand drive 4F built at Derby in 1928. It is believed to be the first-built at Derby to carry the LMS goods livery. It went to Rowsley and stayed there.

 

My other 4F is a Midland version (Bachmann) in due course it will receive a "local" number.

 

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The two sisters face one another.

 

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Bachy Midland 4F number 3851 was next to receive the "local" treatment. The cab-side and smoke-box numerals were removed by the cocktail stick method. Pressfix transfers were used for the new cab-side number and Fox water slide for the smoke-box ones. The smoke-box was painted with black acrylic.

Here are three photos taken with different settings.

 

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Focus on infinity, no flash.

 

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Auto focus, no flash.

 

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Auto focus with flash.

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To access the goods yard the Midland had to build a skew bridge over the approach lines to the station. Probably not the best idea to scratch-build your first bridge when it's a skew one but here goes.

 

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The supports for the ring arch(?) were a real pain to fit.

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That was last night's work and then I got the first side finished tonight

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Just the other side to do and the road way.

 

The texture paper is Scalescenes and also bits from their retaining wall kit. The underneath of the arch is Staff's engineer's blue.

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That's a very nice job Jonathan, looks really good.

 

What did you use for the basic structure, is it foamboard?

 

Al.

 

Hi Al, It's mounting card from Hobbycraft.

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Jonathan,

That is excellent for a first scratch build, well done!  Everything else will be easy now.

 

Hi Chris, I have scratch-built other structures but this is my first bridge. The biggest headache was realising that I could not use a uniform shaped piece of card for the underneath of the ring arch (I don't know if that is what you call it) as the width changes over the length of the bridge. I am sure there must be a mathematical way of working it out, but I marked out 10mm sections and stuck lengths of card batons between them.

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Hi Chris, I have scratch-built other structures but this is my first bridge. The biggest headache was realising that I could not use a uniform shaped piece of card for the underneath of the ring arch (I don't know if that is what you call it) as the width changes over the length of the bridge. I am sure there must be a mathematical way of working it out, but I marked out 10mm sections and stuck lengths of card batons between them.

When building the skew bridge at Greenfield, simplicity told me to build the bridge to the required skew then glue a large sheet of plasticard under the arch. The surplus was removed when dry.....

 

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The bridge after stone cladding was added but before weathering.....

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The real bridge at Greenfield Station....

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When building the skew bridge at Greenfield, simplicity told me to build the bridge to the required skew then glue a large sheet of plasticard under the arch. The surplus was removed when dry.....

 

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The bridge after stone cladding was added but before weathering.....

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The real bridge at Greenfield Station....

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Thanks, Coach, I'll remember that when building my next bridge.

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The other side of the bridge was completed today.

 

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The photo below shows it in situ looking north.

 

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Looking south.

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Black 5 with mixed goods heading toward Derby

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A start has been made on the yard side approach to the bridge. Vinyl mat is supported on card formers. The fence is Peco with a piece of Ratio yet to be painted.

 

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The other side still to do.

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The other side of the yard access road has received its fence.

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The more observant will notice that a shallow cutting has appeared behind the mainline.

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As Larry (Coachmann) says grass matting makes a layout look complete when it isn't. Still plenty to do but green brings the layout to life.

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I have had a bits and bobs day today. Earlier in the week some 3D printed chimney pots arrived from Peedie Models, so the current ones on the station were removed and new ones fitted which seem to look more the part.

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Which meant I could use one of those replaced to go on the goods shed.

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While visiting Peters Spares on Teesside (Jeff-country of adoption) I invested in one of these to see what it would look like.

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I also go a bit of fencing done behind the Derwent South Junction box and planted a telegraph pole. The insulators need painting, good job it's not stuck down.

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Not much done in the way of new stuff in the last few days. Mainly checking wagon b-2-bs so they can use the goods yard without derailing. However, I did manage to get some seating so passengers can sit out on warmer days to wait for their train.

 

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Not scratch-built which Al (Bakewell) would have done, mine are York Modelmaking.

 

And a bit more green stuff was added to the area between the yard and the mainlines.

 

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Not scratch-built which Al (Bakewell) would have done, mine are York Modelmaking.

 

 

Actually, I think I cheated with the platform seats - I used some Peco ones, but cut and joined two of them together because they weren't long enough :)

 

Really love how your layout  is looking, it's amazing how much the addition of the signal and telegraph pole bring it all to life. You wouldn't notice them, now they're there, but at the same time you realise something was missing before.

 

Great stuff,

 

Al.

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Thanks, Al. The York Modelmaking ones claim to be Midland pattern - the supports being rustic in nature. The photos don't do justice to them. There are four to a pack so I think I need some more to go along the back fence although they will "disappear" when against it as both are brown.

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Apologies for the bunch of 'Likes' but since the last time I popped in, your work has really come along.  I love the Midland, so it's great to see a good representation of it in miniature.  My layout is nowhere near as large, but I feel creating the right atmosphere goes a long way.

 

Cheers,

William

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A bit more around the bridge was done today. The final wing wall was glued in place and a bit more vinyl grass mat was laid. A few shots of a Buxton (Midland) - Derby local getting away from Derwent South Junction.

 

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A bit further down the line.

 

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Hi Jonathan

 

I have just come upon your thread whilst Google-ing for pictures of Midland SBs and came upon your York/Ratio comparison pics. These have given me food for thought as I'm about to attempt some kit bashing to attempt a 30' box. I have now read through this thread with interest, particularly so as we have similar tastes. I really enjoyed it, thanks.

 

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I have a thread running in the PW, Signalling and Infrastructure section on how to signal Derwent. While I have had a few replies, nothing yet on what sort of signal should go where. So I have built a couple from Ratio bits and bobs in the hope that those in the know will point out what's wrong.

 

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This one is the Down home set of dolls for the south junction with a fixed distant for the north junction. The dolls from right-to-left are:

 

Mainline to platform 2

Branch to platform 3

Goods loop.

 

The next shows the Up starters for platforms 1 and 3.

 

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Finally for today the north junction Down starters at the end of platform 2. Should they be on the platform or in the six foot?

 

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